Cosmic Shifts with Juliana McCarthy

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Welcome to Synchronicity. My guest this week is Juliana McCarthy. You may remember Juliana from almost a year ago, a little more than a year ago around July. I got connected with Juliana through Mara from Unbroken Chain, which is on MindPod Network. And I was blown away by Juliana's take on astrology. She had a book that was just coming out then. Called The Stars Within You, which is still available. There's links to all this stuff on this podcast episode page. Wherever you get your podcasts on the website, singpodcast.com. All this shit is there. So you'll want to connect with her. You'll see why after this episode.

She's just like the most lucid and eloquent and perfect combination of like logical and magical. She's like the perfect vessel for delivering astrology to a world that wants to embrace the positive, kind of real, concretized, amazing aspects of astrology without getting too like carried away into like totally nonsensical like shit that only astrologers care about. She's just like she has the depth and the fucking breadth that you want in astrologer. I'm big up and are huge because she's worth it. We talk about a ton of stuff in this episode. The nodes, I finally understand what the north and south nodes are about.

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That stuff's over on Patreon now, you know? I'm not gonna subject the world to my ramblings all the time, but the next solo cast will do one next week for everyone public, you guys. If you're not on Patreon, we'll do that. That'll be out in a week. Okay, that's it. Without further ado, here is Juliana McCarthy. (gentle music) (gentle music) I was just reading your May, your May forecast. Oh yeah. Astrology's so crazy. It's just, it's too eerily accurate sometimes. Whenever I'm like, yeah, but we can only use our imaginations to control things that I always like, I'm always reminded how stable of an imaginal act astrology is.

It's like the most, it's like the most accurate forecasting, I think, of anything I've ever seen, it's nuts. Yeah, it's really helpful. I don't know. I feel cool as a cucumber in some ways. In other ways, I'm like, yearning for a hug so hard, I'm going to lose my mind. In some ways include a cucumber in terms of like worrying about what's happening in the collective and I attribute that entirely to astrology. So what do you, let's just start. Thanks for coming on again. Oh yeah, happy to be here. So let's just jump right into it. I mean, what, how do you view, like when you look at your personal chart or how your natal chart is affected, how does that feel?

'Cause you said like the macro is easy for you to kind of process and look at because of how, and like even just from your writing, it's like you have the most concise and lucid writing. I think I've come across related to what's going on right now. And you seem to be consistently ahead with the forecasting too. Just I remember when, I don't, when did we speak like, October, what, July, July? Like you were-- - July.

The whole paradigm shifted like immediately after that. It was like that eclipses in was literally like this, at least for me personally, but it seems like collectively. So what's the difference though when you're looking at like your own chart? Like how does that work for you?

Oh, well, you know, you just look at the planetary positions called the transits and how they're showing up in your natal chart, what houses they're showing up in, what planets they're forming, significant angles to, you know, like a 90 degree angle or a conjunction which is like zero degrees. And then you can see how it's specifically affecting you. Like for example, right now Saturn just moved into Aquarius, so it's the beginning degrees of Aquarius. My moon is right there in the beginning degrees of Aquarius. So, you know, Saturn and Aquarius are both isolation of sorts, you know? So we're in this period of like pronounced isolation.

That's why you want that heart.

Yeah, so I feel extra lonely. We all feel it, but some of you have a lot of families. I don't, at least I was with my dog, but I'm definitely feeling this period of like extra isolation or loneliness, but it's also a period because Saturn is maturation. It's a period of relational maturation for me. The moon is a relational planet and it's also home. And I just bought my first home and I've been really playing roots, which is Saturn on the moon.

Congratulations, I didn't know that. That's amazing.

Oh yeah, and now I'm in Highland Park now.

Oh, that's so awesome.

Yeah, I'm happy here.

It's funny, I was just thinking the other day of how many people just moved physical locations. I just signed a lease in April for a new house and it just seems like a lot of people have shifted into new physical dwellings. Like it's pretty amazing to notice that just in the macro. So, okay, so you're-

You're good timing me.

Right? Let me ask you this. When Saturn retrogrades later, does it move back into Capricorn? Am I making that?

Yes.

It does, right?

And I'm making it up. It will move back into Capricorn and revisit some of the terrain that we've already been through. And so, yeah, we're gonna be returning to old themes that came up at the start of this year. You know, leading up to the pandemic and through the beginning of the pandemic. And I love retrogrades because, you know, for people who don't know, a retrograde basically means that from the perspective of Earth, it appears that a planet's orbit is moving backwards all of a sudden.

Yeah.

And that happens because of the location of the planet in relation to the Earth, combined with the speed of the orbit, right? So, suddenly the Earth's orbit is going faster than that planet's orbit and moving alongside each other. So, it appears like the planet's moving backwards. And when that happens, it's a chance to kind of make sure we learned the previous lessons that we learned, you know, when Saturn moved across those points that it's now going back to. So, it'll actually hit those points three times, right? The first time it goes and then it retrogrades and hits again and then it goes forward and hits a third time.

So, we have three chances to get it right.

That's fun for you also with your Aquarius Saturn and Moon placements. You get to pick at paying three times right there. That's fun. (both laughing)

Well, I'm actually looking forward to the third time because the third time Saturn and Jupiter will be conjunct in December of 2020. And Jupiter is the great benefit. Jupiter is expansion and gold light and good fortune and Saturn is contraction, you know, longevity. And so, it's like, okay, so did you get these lessons? Did you get the lessons, did you figure it out?

Yeah.

And it's literally not letting me like get involved with dudes who aren't good for me, you know?

That's good. That's good.

I know.

And then you get the boons.

Probably the best.

I've been there. I've been there just so you know. I've been there and it does drive you nuts, but then what comes afterwards? Like you realize it was all worth it 'cause you're just like, oh, the boons are actually here. Like I was in these situations and I probably saved myself a shitload of trouble. So, yeah, I know. It sucks when you're kind of in it. You kind of just, so like, what have you been like learning in this kind of isolation? I mean, this is obviously important for other people too. We're not the only couple. (laughing) It is, but you recognize the clear connection between something, even if people didn't have these specific placements.

I mean, the feeling of isolation, especially, at least on the East Coast now, like the weather is getting really nice, like kind of out of this hibernation period. But people are, for the most part, you know, still being encouraged to isolate, you know? But I'm curious, like, what lessons have you been kind of like learning from this as Saturn is paying ya? Pretty tough.

Yeah, well, I think for me and for most people actually, that I've spoken to who are single and even those in relationships, it's been a period of actually having the time to process old situations, old relationship situations, you know? And for me, it's been that way for sure. It's like, oh, my ex I broke up with two years ago. I couldn't, I didn't even have much time to process it 'cause my book came out right away and I had to move across the country. And now it's like, oh, I know there's some, there's some crunchiness here that I'm telling you, but didn't you?

Crunchiness, that's a great way of putting it. (laughing)

Yeah, and I've been getting letters from Xs, two Xs wrote me very meaningful letters of acknowledgement, apology and even asking for advice, which was really helpful for me to feel like vindicated.

Yeah, valued, yeah, yeah.

At least settled. And other people have been expressing similar things, you know, and what's interesting is right now, it's not just Saturn moving into Aquarius, it's also Venus retrograde in her shadow.

Right.

And Venus is the planet of love and romance and it's some other things, money and creativity. And she's getting ready to station retrograde as well. And that's going to last until July and she'll be in her shadow really until August and then Mars will retrograde right after. So we are in this long period for the rest of the year until December of Venus and Mars retrograding of recalibrating love, sex, relationships, relationships, issues, money issues, what direction are we going in? That's Mars, you know, Mars is sexuality and it's the feminine Venus and the masculine or inner feminine and inner masculine are also calibrating.

And Venus is going retrograde in Gemini, which is communication.

Yes.

So we are learning to communicate in like whole new ways in deeper ways within the context of love and relationships. And our inner feminine is learning to express herself without fear and shame.

Yeah, it's pretty fucking nuts to actually witness this recalibration take place. And I think everyone goes through it individually but we clearly see that expressed outward like in the world, outwardly in the world, I should say. It's pretty amazing. 'Cause like it felt like this surge of destruction. Like I also view this virus kind of, it seems like feminine sacred wisdom, like destruction, the destroyer aspect of the feminine and a very gentle way. I mean, as gnarly as this pandemic is and as much death as it's led to, and I don't say this to diminish any individual death and the magnitude that can have in a person in people's lives, relatively speaking for how this planet has been treated, how individuals have been treated, how we treat ourselves, relatively gentle, like relatively gentle together able to recalibrate.

And that I think is a really important lesson so we don't get overtaken by like the intense fear that seems to come with that if we fight it. And yeah, this recalibration really does like that's, I was just saying I was reading your May forecast and that was like an overarching theme. And that just struck me as completely true. It's fucking crazy.

Yeah, you know what's interesting is, you know, of course for years I was teaching about the paradigm shift of 2020 before this year.

Yeah, yeah.

It's like, okay, we're in it now. And in prior years, you know, where we've had similar sorts of conjunctions, there have been wars. And when I would teach about it, people would say, do you think we're gonna have a war in 2020? And I would say, no, I don't feel that. I feel like it's more of an energetic war. And I feel like the pandemic is almost a way more feminine way of waking us up, of jolting us into the next phase. Then a war would be, you know?

Totally.

And even though I don't want to diminish the suffering and the dying of people in the world at all, but it could have been worse, you know, it could be worse. A lot worse. And hopefully we can really, I mean, because there's relative peace, we're at home, we're not on the front lines. And the men are at home with their families, they're not on the front lines, you know? I hopefully that we have this period of reflection to really green the lessons and to really be more heart centered and intelligent in coming up with our ways forward, you know?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, I meant to, oh, go ahead.

No, you go ahead. You're about to say some really interesting shit.

Well, I would, I meant to be at Muddhist and there were these predictions, you know, that there would be this moment of kind of great materialism, this moment of great darkness that would arise. And what we would need to survive but we would need to quote unquote win against materialism, against the sort of quote dark forces, you know? Is Prajna and Karuna, clear mind, clear intelligence in warm heart and compassion. And I do feel like those are the energies of the time right now. I mean, with Venus retrograding in Gemini, Venus is heart. Gemini is intelligent, you know?

Right, it's sad. And I do think that we're doing it, you know?

Well, we're doing it, whether we're kicking or screaming or going willingly is the truth. Like, this is one of the things I realized, like, two is if this world is illusory in the truest sense of the word that like, you know, it's relative, it's transient, it's impermanent, which I just, I accept, I fully accept that. You might as well believe in the illusory clear mind, full heart wisdom, school of thought. Like, you can go the other direction, that's equally valid in duality, but it seems like enough people have kind of signed up for this major realization. And I don't know, like, people definitely have different reactions to this, 'cause it feels very psychedelic, what we're going through.

It feels very bardo-like, you know, to use a Tibetan term. Like, it's reconstituting and recalibrating, like, how we wanna engage with ourselves and reality, and like, you know, the question, I think, a few people have asked me over the past couple of weeks is like, do you think it will go back to normal? And I'm like, what was normal? Like, I don't remember, like, sorry, like--

I know.

I don't really remember, exactly. Like, I guess, like, when I was a kid, things seemed more simple, because I didn't have as broad of conception of the world, but I mean, it was never normal. I don't remember exactly. - No, no. No, I remember being a kid in the '80s and being like, I don't like this.

Totally, totally.

It was in the '80s and Dallas, Texas.

Right, right. - I was like, this is, like, really materialistic, and I don't really relate to it. And then I learned about the '70s, and I was like, I think I was born into the wrong decade.

Yeah, totally, totally. I remember that too, yeah, fuck.

Yeah, but it's interesting, 'cause I've talked a lot of people still, you know, I still have, my business is still thriving, and I'm knocking on wood.

You don't have to knock on wood. I mean, you can do it for fun, you're good to go.

Sorry, yeah, I think healing is a good sort of... Well, it's like all line of work.

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

For me, right now. But I'm talking to a lot of people, and what I'm interestingly hearing from the majority of people I'm speaking to is that they're happier.

Yeah.

You know, it's like, yeah, I miss my friends, and I'm scared about work, I'm scared about money, and I'm scared about logistical things. But the simplicity is making me happier. I feel more at peace, you know? I feel the symphony of birds when I walk outside and the earth is glistening, and this feels better, you know? I am talking to mostly women, so I don't know. I don't know how to men are communicating.

Well, I've also found that a lot of women have placed themselves in positions to be around nature. I mean, some men too, but like there was this wave of people who kind of like have found themselves in like a wave from environments that prevent them from doing that, like in big urban areas even. Like it's, I certainly have friends who are in cities, who are in New York still, and it's completely different experience, but I don't know. Like some people kind of sense this, I think. Weirdly enough, whether it was like years before or months before, or even weeks before, and position themselves in places to really appreciate that, 'cause that's the key thing.

That's the key thing. - Yeah, I mean, it is a good point that my friends in New York are the least happy.

Yeah, of course.

I think that it's like a very hard place to be right now.

It's the epicenter, right? And it's been. - Yeah, yeah. And it's impossible not to feel the palpable quality of death and suffering, you know?

Yeah.

And to not to feel stir crazy kind of cooped up in the little box.

Yeah, you were there not too long ago, but one of the last stops, I was there. There were like a week before that we really got crazy, but yeah, you could feel definitely, it's a crazy place to be in a situation like this, not just for the density, just the energetics that are there. And yeah, so it's a maintain positive vibe there. It's definitely a skill.

Yeah, and you know, I have friends who own a bar, Max Fish, that interweets to go there every night when I was younger. And they were like, you know, there was 9/11, there was the blackout, you know, all these things have happened in New York, but we've always been able to like, get a drink together. - Yeah, exactly.

And now suddenly we can't. And it's a totally different experience, you know?

Yeah.

And so it's interesting because it is such a different lesson, right? It's like, it's not about being together in the city and like kind of going through this together. It's like, well, you have to go and face yourself.

Yeah.

You know, if you can't drink and you have to leave alone.

Is this Venus retrograde stuff, the shadow work? Like where is this? 'Cause this is, I think, one of the things that isolation or let's even call it solitude, not even the negative context of being alone. You know, this is one of the best opportunities to actually look into your psyche and see what's working and what's not and how situations have kind of, you know, concretized around those beliefs. I mean, what astrologically is kind of pressing down on the shadow work, you know, right now?

Yeah, well, a lot. (laughing) But I can break it down.

Yeah, break it down.

Okay, so one is, of course, the Saturn Pluto conjunction began this whole year.

Oh yeah.

Saturn, karma, lord of karma, compression, isolation, patriarchy, system structure, society, you know, no big deal. And all the status quo, history, Pluto, death and rebirth, explosions, shadows, shadow work. So, karmic explosions, the explosions of patriarchy, the explosions of the status going everything we knew to be reality, okay? That's why we called it the paradigm shift to 2020.

Right.

And then Jupiter is now involved. And Jupiter, Saturn and Pluto have not conjoined in something like 6,500 years. And, you know, in Capricorn, did they say that?

Yeah, Capricorn, it's been fucking, you know, I know that the card in tarot associated with Capricorn is the devil and fear is involved, so yeah.

No, I mean, yeah, I mean, Capricorn's got good quality.

Oh, of course, of course, I love it. I love it. That was great, just to be aware.

Capricorn is ruled by Saturn. So, Capricorn is system structure, society, government, heads of government, the status quo, history, the way things have been, you know, on reality. So, that's where all this work is happening. And Jupiter, now is conjoined Pluto. Jupiter, the great expander and our belief systems. So, our beliefs are exploding. We're having karmic repercussions and explosions because of our weird dogmas and beliefs and thinking.

Which we've all been susceptible, whether it's white supremacy or, you know, subscribing to the culture of materials and capitalism. So, like, we're all susceptible to it and we all haven't created it.

Of course, Trump isn't.

You know, I'm like, weirdly like a Trump fan now in like a perverted way. We should talk about that. Oh, yeah, to go white. I'm not voting for him.

Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. We definitely got to talk about that at some point.

Oh, no. (laughing)

Dude, we hang up now.

I watched, I know, I watched a bunch of Fox News for a while and it is less to do anything with policy and like casting a blind eye to the objective kind of ridiculousness, but he's such a good archetype of like waking people up and it's not to justify or say we need this over and over again. But like, I don't know, like sometimes he'll say something and like I was watching these press conferences and I'd see how something he said where he's just being an idiot. He's not trying to be nefarious, but it'll be latched onto like he's some evil person. I'm like, no, he's just the dingus. Like he doesn't, you know, like he's really like not as seriously invested in people like, well, he's the leader of the world.

He's the leader of the United States. Well, it's like, I get it. I totally get it. But any president, you know, over the past, really forever has a fair amount of blood on their hands in a lot of different ways. But one thing I admire, I don't know if that's the right word that I think I've kind of not hated about him is he's consistently the way he is. He doesn't deviate from his persona. He really believes his viewpoint is correct. And as fucked up as it may be, I can work with that. Like I can actually understand how he operates as a person and that kind of loosens the shackles of me being emotionally invested in a way.

Also, just from like a practical standpoint, I do recognize that regardless of who's been president and I know this isn't true for everyone. I don't want to make that false equivalency. But for me, my life is not incredibly affected by who's president. I get that I'm a straight white male and I had that privilege. But for the most part, I can't, at that point, unless I'm going to get invested in changing the situation, I can't get freaked out about who's president and what they're saying. Because I just don't, you know what I mean? That's kind of how I've engaged with him. And since I've done that, he's kind of just funny, you know what I mean?

Knowing that I can't really do anything about it. And like I said, I'm not going to vote for him. But like, look at this Biden shit. This is really interesting too, this whole fucking, you know what I mean?

No, I mean, the one, I mean, I wouldn't, I wouldn't take what you said and conclude the Earth fan of Trump. So I think that's a stretch, I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't use this word anymore. (laughing) But, you know, in terms of Trump, it's true that he is in some ways, just like an open book in terms of his corruption, just like very transparent about it, with other presidents have not been, you know. And, you know, Biden is problematic, for sure. I'm praying that at least because of Bernie's success, he will steer left, you will see. And I'm also praying that because we're meant to be entering matriarchy in the United States, astrologically is meant to be having its death in rebirth in 2022 to 2023.

And we're having a transit that indicates the death of a president in office. Totally, totally. I was just thinking of this. I think if Biden president and his VP is someone like Elizabeth Warren, you know, then suddenly we could have our first female president, you know. I think this sounds, you know, it's really funny 'cause I didn't know any about that astrologically, but I felt like whoever this next president was, and not just because we're getting old candidates that they were gonna die, you know what I mean? Like the next president, I don't know about Trump, this guy's believes in his health so much, it's insane.

But, you know what I mean? Like, that does make sense. And I feel like it's about time. Yeah, the matriarchy is definitely happening and there's a lot of ISIS-kali energy going on. I'm loving it, personally.

You know, it's interesting 'cause there've been so many articles about how the countries that are doing the best of this pandemic are the woman-led countries.

Yeah, yeah.

And it's, we just feel like I chose when I said that, but we're just feeling the power of leadership. And I do feel it turning toward that direction. And as we experience this sort of dismantling of these unhealthy, unhelpful beliefs, you know, which is Jupiter, Conjuring Pluto, and also the South Notes about to be moving through Satch, ruled by Jupiter. So we're trying the old karma of our weird, faulty belief systems, you know, our unhelpful belief systems. And part of that is like undoing our internalized oppression for like a woman or a person of color, you know, gay or any marginalized group.

We are undoing our internalized oppression so that we can fully step into our power and for our leadership by dismantling our, you know, inherited fear and shame.

Yeah.

Which is also Pluto and Saturn, you know?

Yeah, no, I mean, that's what happened to me last year is Jupiter moved through Sagittarius, where all my, not all, but a lot of my major planets were, and I was like, what the fuck? That's right about the time we met. I just had that right around that eclipse season, my birthday is July 20th and holy, I never had anything like that happen in my life. Just how everything just started getting topsy-turvy and like, it just like, it was insane, but it was, it was like a, like that Jupiter influence, it's expansive, but it's graceful too, if you allow it to be. It's one of the coolest.

Yeah, I mean, it can go too far too.

Oh, totally. Who are you telling?

Yeah, it can go way too far.

Who are you telling?

I mean, we've had a lot of work done around Sagitt over the last of years, we had Saturn moved through Sagitt, you know, and that was like, people got started getting really dogmatic at that point, solid in their beliefs, and Jupiter moved through Sagitt then last year, and it was like a lot of cold thinking kind of erupted. And now the south roads coming in to clean up the mess.

So explain, explain south node, the south node stuff to me, I love this.

Yes, so the lunar nodes are the north node and the south node of the moon. And they're basically points, and they're points on either side of earth where the lunar path and the solar path from the perspective of earth called the ecliptic intersect. And when we have a moon or a full moon at one of those points, that's when we have an eclipse. And so what they indicate is south node is our past life karma, our early life karma, what we need to karmically resolve in order to move into our true life path, in order to move into our soul's greatest potential for evolution, and that's the north node, our soul's greatest potential for evolution.

And so if you look at your natal chart, it, I can tell you the whole story of your past lives, looking at your natal chart based on the position of the south node, and then they look at what sign it's in, what house it's in, what planetary ruler of that sign, what the planetary ruler is doing, what angle. North node, oh, what's that?

No, we just broke up for a second. Just repeat the last 10 seconds of what you're saying. It came back.

Okay, what was the last thing you remembered?

South node and north node past lives, you were just going into that.

Okay, so the south node, if you look at the natal, oh, wait, so you didn't hear any of it?

I heard like the natal chart, you can tell the whole story of like past lives based on, and then yeah.

Okay, okay, you can tell the whole story of your past life through the south node, through what sign it's in, what house it's in, what the planetary ruler of the sign is in, what angles are being formed to the south node, into the planetary ruler of the south node, it's like you can get very detailed and deep into the past life story, which is fascinating. And that's usually when clients cry, 'cause there's like some kind of moon memory, or some kind of deep emotional memory of that pain and trauma. And the north node is our evolutionary potential, what we are meant to orient our lives toward in order to feel like, yes, I'm on my true life path.

You know, yes, this is what I'm meant to be doing, even though it's uncomfortable, and it's where I'm underdeveloped. When I orient toward this, it's like, whoa, my life is flowing.

Right, it's right, it's right, right, right.

Yeah, and so when we look at it collectively, you know, the south node is where we are cleaning up our collective karma, and the north node is where we are developing ourselves and orienting more toward it, in order to grow, in terms of our evolution. So, for the past year and a half, the south of it's been in Capacron.

Of course it has.

Patriarchy, materialism, empty achievement, you know.

Clean it up.

Yeah, so being a wage slave, work, work, work, you know, like prove yourself to daddy to get their love. (laughing)

Yeah, I love it.

Yeah, and the north node's been in Cancer, the great mother, the matriarch, right? And so, right now, this month, we are wrapping, and two days, you know, we are wrapping up this journey of the north node in Cancer in the south node in Capacorn. The nodes move in backwards, basically, like Merlin.

Wow.

That's backwards through time. And the north node is now at zero Cancer. So we are at the Venus of the sign, and we are learning that absolute powerful lesson of Cancer, which is all about being at home, staying safe, calling your mother, cooking, taking care of yourself, you know, orienting more toward human connection and seeing that as richness versus into achievement.

So it's with others in the earth.

So the north node moves back into Gemini?

Now it's moving into Gemini.

Wow, I see.

Oh, I never understood the nodes until now. You're the best.

Yeah.

Holy shit.

So yeah, May 5th, the north node moves into Gemini and the south node moves into Sagittarius. So now the big collective karmic work is going to be around faulty belief systems, you know? And where have we been to rigid and dogmatics spouting our points of view at one another instead of listening and dialoguing? Where have we believed distortions of truth and lies instead of looking at objective reality to help us find our gauge? And the north node in Gemini, it's like we're moving toward enlightened Gemini, which, you know, of course, there's neurotic Gemini, which everyone always talks about, but there's also enlightened Gemini.

So enlightened Gemini is openness, curiosity, dialogueing, its objective, truth scientists, you know, healthcare workers, thinkers, intellects, you know, like let's break this down logically, you know, let's have an open exchange.

So what rules Gemini, Mercury?

Mercury.

Yeah, okay, that makes sense, right, of course.

Yeah, Gemini's the twins, right? So the twins are always in dialogue and it also represents paradox. So it's like, well, both things are true. You know, it's like a heart and mind, spirit and science. And so how can we create dialogues with the scientists and the spiritualists? How can we create dialogues with two sides of the coin that are open and constructive instead of rigid and dogmatic? And, you know, it gets nowhere. Like if you're a liberal and you yell your beliefs that gets us nowhere or vice versa. So I think, yeah, I mean, and it's asking questions. That's the last thing I'll say. You know, I've been thinking about this and I got really obsessed with Colts at one point, one recent point.

So I watched like a million documentaries about Colts.

Yeah, they're fascinating.

Fascinating. And what I learned is that it's next to impossible to sort of get somebody out of Colt. But the people who've had the best luck asked the right questions of the Colt members.

Right.

So instead of saying you're an idiot, what are you fucking doing?

Right, right.

They asked them questions that made them think that started to dismantle their rigidity.

Yeah.

And that's with Gemini, enlightened Gemini's all about asking questions.

It's like Socratic.

It's like being gentle and Socratic is very important. And also there's an element of space there, which I think is also reflective in Gemini too because you need sometimes, if you're really talking about dogmatic or Colt-like thinking, there may be a key that you can ask with a question that unlocks the door, but you have to give sometimes people the time and space to process that on their own. So they're not feeling like they're being pushed through a door they don't want to go through. Which is what this can feel like. Like breaking out of a Colt or Colt-like logic or thinking regardless of whether it's a political cult or religious or just health or whatever, it is something an individual has to feel like they do because if not, it can really just like upset their entire psyche to a way that, you know, is troublesome for people to go through and maybe they don't want to, yeah.

Yeah, and it can even be dangerous. You know, if your whole ideological framework, which keeps you sane, is suddenly exploded.

Yeah, yeah.

You can go, you can start to lose your mind or feel nihilistic or even suicidal. So it's like, somehow, through Jim and I curiosity and openness and questioning, you know, it's like it just feels like a gentler way of dismantling some of this tough stuff.

It's cool, I never realized they went backwards, the notes, the planets like as, like I get the archetypal aspects and like the movements of the zodiac and transits. I can grasp, but then when I actually start to think about how this, all this stuff is like in the sky and like the patterns they've made, like I'm sure you've seen the thing, like the fractal, it makes like the flower of life, the transits of like Venus in the moon or something. It's some like amazing pattern. Like it just blows my mind that this is actually how stuff works. It's like, and that people were able to ascertain that this was going on and then also ascribe qualities to it.

It just, it always feels so like divinely inspired to me. Like anyway, you slice it. It's just, it's astounding.

Yeah, I know, I love it.

It's super cool. So what other themes for the, what do you, okay, let's ask this since we're in it. Timing, astrologically, what are you looking at related to pandemic, quarantine? I mean, also I'll just throw this out there. I personally feel like as the weather gets nicer and nicer in the Northern Hemisphere, it's gonna be harder and harder regardless of data or statistics to keep people inside. So like what are you, what are you looking at to be like? What's, what's going on? Not when this is gonna end per se, but like when are we gonna see shifts in terms of behavior collectively?

Yeah, so I, there is a retraction happening right now. There was like clockwork when Pluto stationed retrograde. It was about a week ago. There was a retraction of like the wave, the death wave, you know, Pluto's death. And it started to get more under control in the world, you know? And Pluto, you know, it's not in under control. It's like starting to get more under control. And Pluto will go direct in October. So I see another death wave coming then in the fall. And then Saturn and Jupiter can join an Aquarius in December right after the elections. And Mars stations direct a week after the elections, which could be an eruption of violence, we'll see.

And in December, you know, Aquarius is the new age. We're moving into this Aquarian age. It's the future. It's egalitarianism, it's the pinnacle of human potential. It's enlightened society. And so we might start to feel this glimmer of like, okay, we're getting ready to build the next phase, you know? I do believe that Trump will lose. Uranus is opposite the sun on election day. It's supposed to be a change. And so we'll see what that all means. But I'm reluctant to make predictions, but I just did it. (laughing) I've been to teach that to myself. So I think December, we're gonna start to sort of feel like, okay, time to build the next phase.

And then February is when I see us kind of beginning to really liberate from the pandemic, which seems early actually. But according to like for scientific purposes. Yeah, they're saying like two years, 2022, but yeah. Yeah, and it could be. I mean, some version of like freedom could arise, you know, in February for maybe for some of us or something like that. But then 2022 to 2023 is the death and rebirth of the United States. So it actually would line up if like 2022 were the year, you know? It's like, okay, now we're reversing new paradigm. But I do see us beginning to kind of conceive the future in a very concerted way.

December and February. And of course that's up to each of us. Like this could be a time where we're like, okay, I can't live this way anymore. So I'm gonna create a farm commune, you know? Or I can't live this way anymore. So I'm gonna invent my own career that matches these times in a way that's more supportive of others and supportive of myself in my livelihood. You know, we're gonna begin reinventing ourselves in our life. We don't have to wait for any fricking government, you know? That's the whole point, right? I mean, that's the right. I mean, if we do that, that's actually how change happens.

I mean, I also heard an interesting take from my friend, Jessa Reeve, where she was saying, I keep saying this 'cause it really struck me that our desire to kind of reflect codependency out in relationships or just the world. Like I need this to feel better. I need the government to provide a framework for me to thrive. Not that it shouldn't be a helper, but ultimately that type of thinking does lead to a surveillance date. It's like you need protection from outside of you. So let's just make sure every single thing is taken care of, which is ultimately very unsatisfying. So if we really want to see the changes that I think a lot of us feel, right?

We're talking about kind of this like Shambhala, like enlightened society, like you do that first. You do that first. You stabilize your own consciousness first. You stabilize your own life, your own social life, your relationships, you know, your relationship to yourself. Do the things that you want to do. You'll start feeling like you're supposed to be in the place you're supposed to be. And that radically changes your local environment, your regional environment. And to me, that's what it feels like is inevitably taking place, which is probably some of the reason that I can, you know, subscribe to being entertained by Trump rather than seeing him as he's not a malevolent.

I mean, you, you know, I'm toning it down for the podcast, but you should see me watch these things. Like I, it is entertaining at the very least.

Right, no, I get it. He's clearly an entertainer. But yeah, I mean, it's interesting because we're moving out of a 2,000 plus year Pysian age into the Aquarian age. And the Pysian age has been all about having a guru waiting for a savior, you know, it started with the, with the birth of Christ. And so it was like, you know, we've talked about this before, but like waiting for the savior in all regards, you know, even quickly, like save us, save us, save us. I'm just going to sit here at home waiting for a savior. And the Aquarian age is not that at all. The Aquarian age individual liberation, you know, it's making sure all beings are equally respected.

Yes, yes.

No, and it's making sure, you know, there can still be like this person's richer than this person, but there's more equity.

Yes.

There's more, every being has our basic needs met. And we make sure of that.

Yes.

And we do, we stop waiting for the freaking savior, you know.

This is it.

And we connect directly to the divine and our into our own inspiration and our own inventiveness. That's Aquarius too, being the inventor of our own lives, being the inventor of our own happiness, being the inventor of our own relationships and how they function, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So I think that that's part of this. It's like, in a way, like being isolated, Saturn, in Aquarius, we're having to become more self-reliance, you know. We're having to form our direct connections to the divine. We're by necessity. We're, it's like, choiceless, you know. And what's fascinating to me is through this whole Christian age, you know, there was, of course, the Spanish Inquisition.

Yeah.

And during, I always talk about this, and I'm sorry if anyone's listening to me talk about this for this time, but it's so important to me. But the, you know, when the Spanish Inquisition happened, there is this whole shaming of the feminine that happened, of the witches, killing of the pagans, shaming of sex, shaming of anything that gave us to direct connection to the freaking divine. It's like, no, to connect to the divine, you have to go through us, the steep patriarchal hierarchy. And now it's like, I mean, the young kids do not leave that.

No, no, that's not a thing that they subscribe to. And what's fascinating to me is that the Gen Ziers are the Pluto and Saj generation. They are here to explode our weird religions and beliefs, you know?

I can only tell you as a new fan of TikTok, which is just like, I love TikTok so much, which is a lot of Zoomers, a lot of, it's, they're on a different wavelength. They're just completely on a different wavelength. And what they're doing is they're just, they're free and they don't give a shit, whether it's sex, whether it's drugs, whether it's religion, whether it's philosophy, like they're, they're untethered from these social constructs that seem to have, not, I don't even say limited, but have influenced how a lot of previous generations have come and it's fucking amazing. And it's hilarious.

And there's like this qualitative vibe about it that I'm just like kind of familiarizing myself with, but it's everything you just mentioned. It's like, it's an upheaval and individual, it's individually accessing the divine without being egoic or individualistic about it. It's like recognizing the connection, but recognizing that everyone has it rather than one, which also is a really effective preventative, kind of prophylactic from cult-like logic, right? I mean, that ability to externalize divine in someone else or something else, that opens the door for a wad and nefarious shit, intentionally or otherwise.

So, yeah, I mean, this is the age we're moving through. I'm pretty optimistic in the middle of a pandemic.

Yeah, I mean, I am too. And I love that, you know, everyone 29 and under is like a democratic socialist and, you know, they're all egalitarian and they're all like incredibly aware of issues of race and gender.

Yeah. You're all poets and activists and, you know, like I honestly, I really resonate with this.

It's pretty cool.

The only thing I don't resonate with is like all the weird plastic surgery in like lip fillers.

This is a thing I noticed 'cause some of my friends like hang out with like a lot of like 24 and younger people and both genders, I didn't realize this whole like, this body thing was like a real thing for the younger generation. Like it's, I think it's an identity thing as much as anything else. 'Cause they feel like such like--

Well, Instagram and TikTok are life, right? So if you look good, I mean, it's just nuts. It's just nuts to me. Everyone has freaking lip fillers now and they're getting crazy plastic surgery like it's a little big deal. And I'm like, what if the beauty standards change like next year and you like reconstructed your face to look like this? Like, are you gonna be bummed?

Well, you just do it again. You know, you look like a cat, thank you.

If one can make your nose smaller, you can make it bigger again.

Just add some extra plaster on. We're good to go.

Oh my God, you're fine. Okay, that's the one thing that makes me feel old is like, I don't get all the plastic surgery stuff.

Hey, it's a thing, you know? It's our destiny as people to be overtaken by the imaginations of the younger people. So there's always gonna be some aspect that we're like, I don't get it. I don't want that.

Yeah, but I am hoping that with Venus retrograding that we start to rethink some of that stuff. If we start to rethink beauty and how we relate to beauty, you know, what is beautiful? And is it superficial? You know, 'cause Venus and Gemini can be kind of superficial, but when it's retrograding, we're rethinking that superficiality.

Yeah, and I think, you know, everyone should have the ability to look how they want. You obviously, you probably know my stance on this is, you should just imagine the feeling of how you would feel if you looked exactly how you wanted to look. You don't have to go and do all this extra additive stuff or if that's really what you want to do and it feels right, go for it. No value judgment there, but definitely be mindful of subscribing to someone else's way of what you should be doing. And that's just, again, like the physical stuff is just a reflection of the energetic stuff, right? Trying to conform yourself to someone else's standards is always gonna be an ultimately unsatisfying game.

Like for sure. - Yeah. I mean, yeah, I'm a verbal. So I'm naturally judgmental. (laughing) Also natural, like I'm into natural stuff.

Yeah, yeah.

I think imperfections are beautiful. Like that's what makes someone beautiful to me. I when I see a guy or a woman who looks perfect, I'm like not attracted at all. You know, when I see someone who's like, there's something weird about them or there's something off about their beauty or their face or their features, then like that's like compelling to me. So I just think it's a shame, you know, and a frankly bad taste. (laughing)

You look too good, that's important taste. How dare you?

I know, it's like looking perfect isn't tasteless.

That's hilarious. What, we should do these more regularly. I think it's just good, if you're up for it, just to check in every once in a while and get the updates. What other major themes did I miss anything? I mean, no, there's endless stuff, but like what else would you wanna share with people listening about what's going on astrologically or what would you expect?

Oh, one thing, well one thing I think is a hot topic. It is that when, as Vena stations retrograde, she's conjunct the goddess asteroid Vesta. And Vesta is sacred sexuality.

Ooh, I just pulled that oracle card last night.

No way.

Yeah, and the threats of fate for real.

So, I think too, it's so interesting to me because I don't often follow popular culture, but I happen to watch "Love Is Blind" which aired right before the pandemic, which is this crazy reality TV show that went totally nuts, like viral across the world. And it was about these people who met without knowing what the other looks like. And they fell in love and got engaged without ever knowing what the other one looks like. And two of those couples are still married.

Wow.

And that, it's interesting that I haven't read before the pandemic because that's such a theme now. It's like you can't just swipe and go have sex.

No.

You know, it's not all based on physicality anymore. You have to actually get to know someone.

Yeah.

Hopefully.

Not a good time to be promiscuous, but.

Not the best, not the best. (laughing)

So, you know, I really think that I'm hoping that with Venus and Mars retrograding and with Venus retrograding conjunct best so that we're going to start to recalibrate our attitudes and relationships to sexuality where it's like sex isn't actually more satisfying if you're with someone who's got like lip fillers and fake tits and perfect waistline or whatever.

Nothing to do with that, no.

Yeah, I mean, there's what we call fifth house sex, which is you're cute, you're cute. Let's fuck, I'm performing for you, you know? And but really deep healing, liberating sex, is eighth house sex, which has to do with, I'm standing naked before you exactly as I am, and vice versa, and we're not fearing rejection from the other. We are surrendering an opening to this moment with one another, two one another.

Yeah, that'd be Scorpio sex, yeah.

Scorpio sex, yeah, so in fifth house sex is Leo sex. So Scorpio sex, so it's in its highest potential. Scorpio sex is deep love and trust and looking each other in the eyes and forming that connection from a deeper place of being seen and seeing the other, you know? So that's much different from you're cute, you're cute. What did you eat the lunch in third grade? Hot, hot, hot magic magic magic magic magic magic magic.

That's how we're forming now, very different experience. And that is safe with sex and sex is the highest potential for humans on this earth, that energy. It's like the most healing energy on earth, you know?

This is what my whole last episode was just about. It was literally about this and how? Yeah, and it's just a primal drive too. It's divine and primal, it's perfect. It's a really good modality to really, and like such a feminine, you know, there's a lot of good stuff. The sacred sexuality for sure.

Yeah, yeah, there's so much to say. But yeah, it's like also orienting to the feminine desire rather than the masculine desire. And that's also Venus retrograde. That's like what does our inner feminine desire, which I think I mentioned. And it's like, well, for our inner feminine, sex actually begins the moment we wake up. How do we make the bed together? How did you speak to me? How do we make the eggs?

Yeah.

You know, like that kind of thing actually goes into the act of love making. And the other thing is the female really wants to see and be seen, like that is the deep inner feminine desire, like with me in the eyes.

Right.

You know? - Wow.

So I like to think about the, like what would it be like if my inner feminine dawned for somebody and I feel like, look me in the eyes.

I have my black moon Lilith right on my IC. So I know I have familiarity with the divine feminine rage. I'm in touch with that at the deepest parts of my psyche. It does come out, so I get it.

I have Lilith conjunct Uranus in Scorpio on my IC.

Holy shit. (laughing)

Wow.

Don't be fooled by my Virgo, right?

Wow, holy shit. Wow, wow, wow, wow. Amazing. I love that I actually understand this stuff now too. It's much, it's like a whole other language in which you can interface with people, it's the best. All right, well, I'm gonna end with three questions that I asked, I don't know if we asked them last time and then one open ended one. We'll just see what they happen to be again. And yeah, let's definitely do this. Like whenever they're, listen, if we're all cooped up and you have the time, I'm just, yeah, it's super fun. What's your favorite color?

Or like indigo, blue, or a bit like blue, like that kind of Japanese indigo.

I love it, what's your favorite number?

11 probably, that's my math, that's my life path.

Oh, nice, nice, I'm a three. What is your favorite animal?

Body.

I said the same thing.

Yes, well, of course, I mean, you gotta be consistent with a dog like that, yeah, I mean, come on, obviously.

And he's not a dog, so he can't see a dog.

Yeah, I know, right? You can't, you just have to say it's a creature, Lottie. I totally get it, I totally get it.

So I'm a hybrid of a bat and a dragon, a baby dragon, and a muckie, and a Chewbacca.

It's so true, it's so true. And last question, what's a practical tip that you could share with people listening that's helped you in your life? Feel your feelings. (laughing)

You know we're on the same page with that one.

Yeah, just sit up, if you're feeling afflicted emotions, just sit up straight and totally upright and relaxed and allow yourself to feel what you feel without spinning stories around it and find it in your body, find where you're holding the tension, relax it and liberate it, just by feeling it, yeah?

I love it. And I just signed up for your Patreon, so I know that's a thing.

Thank you.

What, where else can people connect with you and tune into what you're doing? I know your website, etherealculture, but what else, where do we go?

Yeah, etherealculture.com. I post about the new moon, the foreman and the astrology of the month every month. And my Instagram is also etherealculture. I wrote a book called The Stars Within You, a modern guide to astrology. It's available pretty much everywhere and it's in a bunch of languages now and there's an audio book too. I think Spanish, Portuguese, Norwegian, and Dutch.

Wow.

Yeah.

And yeah, it's cool. And then Patreon, I post videos regularly and astrologer conversations, conversations with fellow astrologers about the astrology of the week. I do it almost every week. And that's patreon.com/astrologerer, which is easy enough.

Wow, that's cool.

I know.

That was an early.

That's amazing.

I know, I know. I have this tech friend in San Francisco and he'd tip me off to the computer.

Wow.

And I was able to get astrologer.

Oh, well, that's easy. That's easy for me to remember and link to.

Yeah, Patreon.com/astrologer.

Amazing. Juliana, thank you for doing this. Let's do this again soon.

I would love that. Thank you so much for having me. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music)

Thanks for listening to that episode. Go check out Juliana on our Patreon. That's patreon.com/astrologer. 'Cause that's fucking easy. And check her out, "Ethereal Culture." Her monthly horoscopes are some of my favorite things. I look forward to, so go check those out. You can connect with this show on syncpodcast.com. There's a mailing list. There's Instagram for me, Twitter for me. I'm all over the place. I'm a normal person like you. I have social media, I do stuff, I post things. Patreon is the best place to go for deep dives. If you're listening at this point, I recommend doing that. It's a lot of stuff like this, but I'm more engaging with the people who sign up there, we do wide things.

It's fun, it's hanging out time. So that's what's going on. I think that's it. Until next week, I will see you next week. That doesn't make sense. What the fuck was I just about to say? I don't know, smoke weed every day. Happy imagining. Bye bye.

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