We're All Dead with Ramin Nazer

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Welcome to Synchronicity. My guest this week features the return of Rameen Naser. I mean, what else do I need to say? He did the logo for the show. He's one of my favorite guests. I had, I feel like one of my favorite guest appearances on his podcast, Rainbow Brain School, part of the MindPod network. Oh gosh, a year ago, and it was pretty fucking intense. I think it was right before 2020, actually. So I don't, it was probably a little less. Rameen is the coolest. One of the best artists out there right now. I was talking with Sean and Cass. I saw them yesterday and we were talking about how I'm like, you know, decades, his body of work will be looked on and being like, holy shit, like who was this guy?

What a fucking legend and visionary. So now that I've hyped up his ego, let's talk about what we talked about in this episode. We also will point out every time I do a podcast remotely with Rameen, like we have the most technical difficulties anyone could, it feels like universally cosmic that some shit is gonna go wrong. And it does. So we had, I think this one was chopped up into like two different places. So I'm pretty sure I got it good and stitched up together. But, you know, we talk about a lot of stuff in this one. We talk about being dead, how we're all dead. You're gonna hear about that.

Talk about politics stuff. You heard in last week's episode, Jess's stances. Rameen has like a slightly different stances on this stuff, but I think you'll be interested to hear the spectrum of opinions on politics and other like 3D real world type shit, quote unquote. And this was recorded before Trump got corona. We've been talking about that a lot in the Patreon. Also for people who don't know, the Patreon has a new feature where each week, after that week's episode on Fridays at 12 p.m. Eastern, we do a live stream and talk about that episode. So you can talk about there's questions or something was brought up that you wanna like talk about.

We can do that. And that's done via YouTube, I think is how we're doing it. So that's going on at the Patreon. You can find all the links to where you want. Rameen also has a Patreon, which I am a subscriber to and it's fucking great. He has bonus shit that you can hear here, that you can read and look at and it's fucking great. He's the man. Yeah, what else? That's all I can say about that big shout out to Ned, the guys at Ned, HelloNed.com, use the code SYNC at checkout. Go get your hemp oil, your CBD full spectrum hemp oil. They have a sleep blend now. It's fucking legit. Those guys are the coolest.

Don't take my word for it. Try the products. Be amazed. They're the coolest. I love those guys. HelloNed.com, use the code SINK, SYNC at checkout. You get 15% off your order. So that's fun. We have some other cool stuff in the pipeline over the next cool months. I think you're gonna see next cool months. Over the next few months, you should see some pretty cool stuff. Also Twitch. There's a lot of stuff I'm doing over at Twitch. The broadcasts are live, so if you don't catch them live, you won't be able to see them. However, I am gonna start archiving the streams and putting them on Patreon. So more of the content and more of the stuff that I do is gonna be available over there.

But Twitch is really becoming one of my favorite platforms. I do like Ableton tutorials, chopping up beats, listening to music, pulling some cards, having a good time and I'm investing in the aesthetics of it so it doesn't look so stupid. So that's fun. Go check out Rameen's podcast, Rainbow Brain School, on the MindPod Network. Go find it all the places you check out, places you check out your podcast. He's the coolest. Also, past our hands, I can't make my art. I need art for the songs that I'm gonna be releasing in the next couple of weeks. I'm gonna hold you to it Rameen. Shouting you out, calling you out publicly.

I know it's gonna be the best. So I'm waiting patiently for that. New music is coming. Just a lot of cool things. Hang in there if you've been going through any kind of like tumultuous stuff. It's 'tis the season. Even in the most stable of relationships or circumstances or mental confidence and faith, we can get tested, we test ourselves constantly. And that's certainly what's been going on the past couple of weeks. We're gonna do a solo cast. Next week, I have a lot of shit stocked up, lot of good stuff, a lot of downloads coming in. So stay tuned for those. And final note for the patrons on the upper tier level, we are gonna do that smoke session looking like next Tuesday.

What's the date on that? I don't know. It's the date, whatever that Tuesday is. And we'll do a night one. So that's gonna be fun. That's it. Without further ado, let's get to the episode. Here is Rameen Naser. (upbeat music) (upbeat music)

Yeah, okay. So I can, I'll stitch them up. All right.

All right, I'm starting, turning off metronome. Good. Now you're back here in the videos and I'm in frame.

Nice.

And, yeah. I mean, is this part of the episode already? And once they hit record, I mean, I feel like it's never not.

Yeah, then it's just in, right?

It's never not.

And this is for regular feed, right?

Yeah, this is regular feed.

Or maybe Patreon. I don't know what you do with it. You do whatever with it. I'm just trying to, you know, I don't know if this is a wrong memory, but I feel like before I do podcasts normally, I like have all this stuff I'm excited to talk about. It's like, oh, I just discovered hollow fractal field theory. I just discovered imaginal techniques. And then I'll talk about this McKenna quote inner one. And now I'm like, man, I don't really know how to speak to the moment now.

Yeah.

Feels like we're in some third act and...

Dude.

We're entering the third act. Let's say first act is pandemic, second act is police brutality, third act is wildfires.

Well, yeah, you're in the literal apocalypse where you are. I do forget that you actually live in like the biblical end of days scenarios. That's pretty intense.

Yeah, where are you? You're in New York right now?

Yeah, I'm back.

So it's not like that. You don't have fires.

No, well, there's a dude when I was in Turkey, though, there was a fucking forest fire. We had to evacuate. It was insane. It was a fucking nuts. So...

I think I saw you tweet about that.

Holy shit.

And weren't you on a yacht? You were like on an actual succession style yacht.

Yeah.

Succession is a show about billionaires. That's the reference.

Yeah, yeah, it was literally that. And I think a literal billionaire was hosted on the yacht at one point.

That's not even, yeah, it was insane. And also there was this big sailboat.

At the same time or before you were there?

While I was there. While I was there. Yeah, it's a whole trip, man. I can't even get into the whole.

Did you talk to the billionaire?

Yeah, briefly. He was a very nice guy. He was super nice.

Oh, cool.

I wonder how, I mean, I'm sure I could look it up, but I don't even know how many billionaires there are.

That's what I was thinking.

Like, is there a thousand? Is there 10,000?

That's what I was thinking. I was like, there's gotta be so many, like, trillionaires next, right? We're aware that trillionaire is gonna be a thing. But like, at a certain point, even one billion, it's like, you're kinda lame. It's like, there's enough of them. Even if it's like, hundreds, where it's like, you're, it's whatever. It's no big deal anymore. Like, you just got a billion.

Yeah.

Also, like, I think about like, can they spend that billion dollars? Like, is that allowed? Like, can they like, can you just go out and buy something for 950 million? I feel like that's not a billion dollars these days. You know what I mean? It's like, it's not real money.

I mean, like, without, I'm sure a lot of tax things get involved. Uh oh, my connection is unstable. Is your connection unstable?

I heard it a little bit. It's okay. I'm willing to work through the process.

Yeah, I'm gonna close. Let's see, Chrome is open. That doesn't need to be open. Chrome is a huge memory suck, photo booth. Why are you open? Oh, 'cause I was checking the camera. Okay, now maybe it's a little bit better, but every episode we do is plagued with this shit. We always have to stop in the middle or like,

Why is that? But what is, that's what we're talking about before, where it's like, why can't this just be easier? Like, what is going on? Like, is that just like our imaginations, like, sucking in this, so tell me what you think of this. So I got in like a pretty, you know, decent fight with Denise, my partner, last night, because there was a health issue she was having and like, she asked me to imagine it being better. And then she asked me, you know, like, how long was it gonna take for it to get better after I imagined it? And I said, you know, like, by the end of the month. And she got livid at me, like, really mad.

And I took it, this is like, and it turned into like a pretty big fight. And I was like, oh shit, like, you know, this is crazy, like, how is she getting mad at me for this is like an imaginal act? Like, it's like, you know. And so it was this big thing, it cascaded off and it's like, up's obviously dealing with like deeper shit that's like useful for the, it's like relationship fuel. It's great when you actually get there. But today I was reading, I did like a solo cast right before I recorded this. And there was a Neville Goddard quote, where he's basically calling people, pussies who don't like imagine like, really fast and awesome things.

He's like, you know, like,

What word did he use?

He used the word pussies, he used the--

Oh, he really did. - No, he didn't.

No, he didn't, he did it.

Oh, that would be great, though.

No, he used them.

He's nilly waggers, or what did they say back then?

Nilly waggers.

He's like, he sounds too cool to say nilly waggers. And it sounds racial for some reason.

It does.

I always do that. I listen to old episodes and I realize like, anytime there's a word that has no meaning, I always make the same hack joke of like, oh, it sounds like a racial slur. And then I like to use it as a racial slur. So I don't know what that says about me.

That said, I will say that, that does sound like a racial slur. It totally does, so I mean, you gotta call it what it is. But yeah, there's, I forget the term he was using, it was basically like, you lack confidence and belief if you're gonna give it like a long interval of time. Like if you really understand what this is, you're gonna do it well. So the reason I brought it up is we obviously have some entrenched belief that these remote podcasts are plagued with, you know, fucking technical difficulties. I don't know, why are we doing that? That's dumb, let's not do that.

Yeah, 'cause the first time maybe like I've changed it or not changed it, but perpetuated it into the future. 'Cause before we tape, I'm like, ooh, I wonder if we're gonna make you.

Me too, me too.

Then we have issues.

Me too. I also do that. I also do that. Well, let's talk, I'm curious to hear, I mean, we haven't spoken.

Wait, why do you pick a month though? Why not a day?

I mean, month is great. If I was your partner and you said you'll be better in a month, I'd be like, thank you. That doesn't cost an extra $5.99, does it? And you say, no, that comes with your prime membership to a relationship with me. And I said, great, I'll set it and forget it. And I'll goof off in bed with my laptop and not feel guilty about being here.

Yeah, man, I definitely understand it retrospectively why it was just like a ridiculous stance to take in anything. Like why not go for instant?

Wait, her stance.

My stance. It's just like why not go for just like instant healing? Like that should always be the vibe. You don't have to be weird if it doesn't happen, but like you should believe that once you imagine something, it actually is really gonna happen. At least you get to like strengthen your belief muscles. That to me has been like probably the biggest revelation over the past like two months. I don't know what the energy has been like for you, but like it's been like real stubborn, sticky, old pattern shit, like working through like dense fucking.

Oh yeah.

It's like fucking nuts. And at a certain point, like you're just like, this is crazy. Like what is this? Like it's--

Yeah, I don't, but it's becoming more clear. Like the fact that there is these patterns we're repeating before, you would have like an epiphany when you realized a pattern. And now it's like, this is so clearly the old pattern. I was in, why do I love this pattern of anger and like lashing out? And I'm not even that angry. I'm not a punching the wall type of person.

Yeah.

You know, just swearing at a video game or something.

Yeah, or just like some, well my class--

Or pushing my partner down the stairs.

Yeah, murdering children for, you know, getting in your way on the street. You know, just the regular stuff that one does. Yeah, I mean--

I can't stop thinking about Noah from a year ago, like, or maybe it was a little more over a year ago, but your biggest thing was like Jordan Peterson and Kids in Cages. And there was like, no imagination should going on. And now it's like, it's all good, baby. It's all the imagination.

I do--

Or maybe not now, actually maybe you've swung back. It's been a minute since I've talked.

I do oscillate between, like, I think I've caught myself my latest, like, also again, like with the Neville Goddard theme, like I've heard talks of him where like he'll just like randomly rage against like Bob Hope. He'll be like, Bob Hope is cheap. He'll be like, Bob Hope is cheap. He's a really bad tipper. It's like, what are you talking, like, what did Bob Hope do to you? He's like, he's so full of himself, Bob Hope. What the--

I have not heard this one.

They really--

This sounds great.

That's it. I'll try to get the Bob Hope one, I'll find it. But yeah, man, like, I got mad at Joe Biden.

I love realizing the different--

I think you tweeted something that was like, I have a really powerful imagination, but I cannot imagine Joe Biden winning this election. Was that you?

That was me.

Was that the tweet?

That was me.

It is funny. Oh, why are you, why are you, that's interesting. Why mad specifically at him? I would say like I have a specific, or go ahead.

No, no, no, you go ahead. It's gone zooming in and out. You finish the thought.

Oh, I go ahead? Oh, okay, I was going to say that I don't know if I've gotten mad at Joe Biden, but I found myself getting mad at quote unquote the left. And then I'm like, ask myself, why am I mad at the left more than the right? Like, I'm clearly politically aligned with the left stuff. Any quiz I take, I'm like, it always puts me like, very left, very, there's like what? Libertarian left and authoritarian left. And I score very libertarian left.

Yeah, like let people do stuff.

Oh, I'm getting mad 'cause it's, 'cause it's, I'm getting mad at my own side 'cause it's like, I expect better from you guys. I expect them to do this shit, but like, come on, you guys should be above this. You're just repeating their tactics, but with your own flag. And then after a while you kind of get bored of being upset. You're like, oh, I'm just going to, it's just wrestling. I'm getting mad at wrestling again, who cares?

That's what happens. And I've luckily found that like the distance and intervals between me recognizing that it's wrestling. Like I'm pretty sure I followed the like Joe Biden can't imagine him being president with like, you know what, he's also just a reflection of me. So if I get caught up in this idea of like Joe Biden being like this douchebaggy guy that people are excited about, like I'm literally doing a dumb ass thing.

Who's excited about him?

No one can be excited about him. Someone is, I mean, they're, I mean, people.

No, not if you hooked him up to a polygraph test, no one's excited about him. Even like, even the best liars, like that thing would just go nuts.

I think also what you said, like how like you catch yourself being like, you know, I'm more aligned with the left. I think I am the special blend of insane where I will like literally switch sides. Like I'll be like, I'm a Trump guy now. I like Trump and I was doing it.

And I love, I love that about you. You're a breath of fresh air. And I know, I wouldn't say I go as far as to say I am. No, actually that's wrong. I'll swing that far too internally. I would never share it with anyone outside of a giant podcast. But it's such a lizard brain thing. Like if one, if you open up your screen and the screen is just telling you all this stuff that lacks all critical thinking. And it's like, hey, just put your questions aside and just support this guy, even though it was clearly like, you know, there's been meddling and stuff and some actually good candidates where we're stopped in their tracks and told to step in line and all this, all this kind of stuff.

Your lizard brain just goes like, fuck, I hate this side. I wanna go the other direction of it. And it's just a base chimpanzee like reverse psychology.

It's bad, it's bad news if it's base level because I feel like that's like my calibration strategy for a lot of things in life. I literally just like ping from extreme to extreme and then like find center. And then I think that's probably why at one point, like I actually was diagnosed as bipolar and like had to like beat that 'cause the behavior, it literally is kind of the definition. But like, I don't take it seriously enough for it to actually like be like a disorder or like fuck my life up. But like I really do try to try on perspectives. Like I understand why people like Trump. I understand.

Oh, me too.

I really understand it. I also understand how someone who doesn't consider themselves a racist, a sexist, just like a good honest person who like you could have a conversation with them. They wouldn't say anything too crazy other than they like Trump, could like Trump. Like I actually understand that to this point. That said like, yeah, in a political hot season, you don't wanna be fucking, I'm like, I guess I'm an idiot. I'm sharing these opinions like right before election. But like truthfully like I don't, I don't think there's any threat of like, you see all sorts of stories floated that, oh, he's not going to leave the White House and he's gonna serve an extra term.

I don't think there's any sign or threat of that. But I think for sure he's going to win in a landslide. If like any of the, anything's are right. Plus, I think there's a lot of closet Trump people that, 'cause it's a, you know, active violence to support him. So I imagine a lot of people taking those polls are lying to the polls and there's gonna be a surprise landslide. But also who knows anything. It could be the opposite. Like to claim that we know anything is bullshit.

Now is where it gets interesting though, which is what is your stance? Like I find myself not actively imagining Joe Biden as president. Do you know what I mean? Like I don't imagine Joe Biden being president. Whereas like I feel like if someone like really gave a shit, they'd be imagining that. Like I don't care enough. Like if Trump wins again, that's like a, and maybe that's the wrong approach and that inflames too many people who like view him as like such a horrible person. But like, I don't think four more years of Trump will be the end of modern society. I think it'll swing away. That's like relatively uncomfortable for a larger subset of people potentially.

Or maybe he does go to good Trump timeline. This is like, why couldn't he just be like, that's the thing. He's also, he doesn't give a shit. That's like such a valuable quality and a leader. Even if he has authoritarian tendencies, which sounds really bad to say on that.

Does he know? I don't think he does. I don't think he does.

I don't think he does. 'Cause when you see, and damn it, this is wrecking my audio. I'm gonna just do it regular style with you in here. But yeah, you lost the train of thought. Oh yeah, but you see like the articles that he's throwing people in unmarked vehicles or something like that. And then you dig a little bit deeper and you realize it's basically, it's not exactly the way it's being portrayed in a headline from, I hate this phrase, but whatever, from both sides. You see that both sides have their like, I don't know if news was ever nonpartisan, but right now there's money to be made and just catering to your audience.

And one side does not wanna tell their base that Trump might win. And then the other side is, might say that everything he does is good when it's kind of a mix of both. And honestly, I don't understand enough about foreign policy to know if he's good or bad because you have people saying that, well, there's no new wars. He pulls out troops from Afghanistan. He's got that Israel peace deal. But then if you ask me to explain any of these things, I'd be like, I don't know what any of those mean.

Nobody really does. And like, I think everyone's just coming to terms. I don't want to say nobody, like there are people who research this stuff and like actually like, you know, but like, do we have the time for this? Isn't everyone's reality collapsing into itself and like people are flipping out and like not understanding what's going on in their own lives to like a large enough degree that like, to me, it's just like, I can't care about this election, the way that I'm being made to like think I should care about it. Like I just can't summon the energy to even like be like, I care who wins. And I know that maybe is like, you know, from someone who's very afraid of Trump and like, that's how they get you.

That's how Nazi Germany started is, you know, you don't, it's like, okay, I'm pretty sure we're not getting there. And like, I know we can always be like four years away from like being the Weimar Republican to Nazi like Germany, but like, I don't think we're there yet. Like people won't put on fucking masks. You know, like it's like this wildly incoherent picture of people who support like a caricature of the other side and the other side, like what that, I don't even know if that makes any sense. People really care about this shit anymore. Isn't it?

Maybe, maybe because all the other stuff is shut down. Like we have to look at this moment in context with the pandemic going on and sports and everything being canceled. Like a lot of that energy or live performances too. Like a lot of energy has been diverted into which, which there is a good part to that. Like it's a weird line to balance like, 'cause I don't want to just dismiss people that are giving their energy to like making effective change, but also it is amateur hour and activism. And a lot of, you don't know if your strategy is going to make the world better. Sometimes it's like your intention is good, but then you support some policy that's not good.

It's mask to be good. And yeah, because there are, there are legit activists who are like do this for a living and our lawyers and understand prison reform and police reform and these kinds of things. And there's this pressure to like kind of jump onto a side, but I don't really, I haven't read enough on it to know whether I should like defund the police and this community. Like I don't know how the police there is structured. Do they want like that?

Yeah, I've had that conversation specifically where I'm like, I want to hear the solutions. I've heard this like community policing thing and like how they deal with non-violent like offenses and like mental health calls and all of these things. And then I'm like, but I'm sure there probably are instances where you want somebody to deal with some like wild shit that like you wouldn't want to deal with. And it's not that I like, I also just like my main approach. I think I was speaking about it a lot more when like I feel like the Black Lives Matter thing really came to the forefront again, like after the four or five.

June?

Yeah, June, I think it must have been is, you know, now I lost my train of thought, but it'll be true.

Yeah, June was act two of the 2020. Like let's say that Kobe Bryant was the pre-show and then the pandemic was the first act.

Fuck.

And then like the police brutality protests are act two and maybe I'm just too much in a bubble for the fires being my act three, but it feels like it's in some kind of third act right now.

It's a third act.

I like to just frame things like that. I like to have little sets of, you know, like you always ask guess what's your favorite number? It's like it's fun to break things down into three acts or seven different forces or some shit.

Yeah, three acts, the rubbing, there's like eight million acts.

Yeah.

But as far as like election years seem to always be like this, like don't you remember with George W. Bush how? And that was in Austin at the time and it was right after 9/11. So it was very like the other, the John Kerry side is very much saying like if Bush gets elected again, we're not going to have a country.

It's going to be all over.

Yeah, that's what everyone was saying.

And then we get Obama next and we get Obama for eight years and then there's this kind of feeling of it's weird how like it does. Maybe it's because of the bubbles we live in, but it does feel like when a Democrat is in office, it does feel like the culture feels less volatile, like and maybe it's just because I live in cities and have liberal friends and stuff, but it does seem like even policy aside, like you can make the argument that oh, what about the drone policies or Clinton's immigration? I'm too much of a dumbass and I don't care to actually look at why they were good or bad, but just the feeling of it.

And it's because someone said on some fucking podcast like how the right is currently won the government, but the left won the culture wars. And I think it was different in the 80s, like during the Reagan years, it was more about, like 'cause we see it like the right used to be the one that was oppressing speech and it's like that's offensive, like how dare you, that's against Jesus Christ and now it's gone the other way where that's racist, that's misogynist, that's homophobic, et cetera. So you're hearing more speech control from that because the left won more of the culture, they're cool. Like being right is like what?

You're a pro-life red hat wearing gun guy. You don't get laid, you're a fucking fool.

Yes, Tim. - Fuck you.

Yeah, I mean, it is weird how that polarity ship did happen there and it does continue to happen. I just, I think, I guess that's probably what's going on right now 'cause I feel like 2020, I remember we recorded I think right before, I only remember 'cause people keep referencing it and they're like, you were right about 2020, I'm like, I don't know what the fuck I said about 2020, it's like, I probably said it was going to be crazy. That's because that's just what it felt like, but I do feel like we are really like in this crunch time, like really like pressing, like almost like being pressed through like a Play-Doh thing to like only leave the bits and pieces and the shapes that we want to like be in like the next place, that's what it feels like to me.

And I feel, again, like with the political stuff, just where I really, like during the pandemic, I was super into Trump and Fox News and I was watching it all the time and I, you know, was just in the vibe of like, this shit is just bonkers, like what's going on. And then as soon as like the pandemic leveled off in New York, at least, and like I felt like I had a healthy perspective on what it was, I stopped caring immediately, I didn't tune into any news, anything anymore, I didn't even look at it on my phone and then, well, I did also leave the country for two months right after that, but like, I basically didn't give a shit anymore and for me right now, it's just incredibly hard to think that the fate of my world is going to be really dictated and affected by who the president is, you know, in December of this year, like who's elected president.

Like it's just hard for me to believe that that really is going to be a crucial factor in like the way my life goes. And I know a lot of people could say, well, that's privilege. You have the luxury of not thinking of that moment. Yeah, but like, you probably have the luxury of not thinking like that too. Like it's probably not going to affect you because it's just like percentage wise, it's not going to. It doesn't mean we disregard the people who are affected by these choices. It's just that like, we don't take the weight of the world like on ourselves, like dictate who needs to be president of the United States.

Like the fact that we even have countries, the fact that we have something called a president is a ludicrous, it's just a ridiculous concept. I don't even mean it's like a bad thing. I just mean like, what a goofy concept. Like what a goofy as like this person is in charge of this whole area. Yeah, look at the look at the the word to president. Like it, you know, it comes from preside. So it's literally just the human that's presiding over the other monkey people that we are. So when you say not much is going to change, that is true in terms of like policy. Like they said, it was going to be like Nazi Germany and it's it's not.

And although there are like instances where you could say that, oh, this administration is failing because of this, we don't have the control variable to know whether it would have been different. But as far as the culture is concerned, the culture has a huge shift depending on who is in the in that in that front seat. And yeah, it does crap. Where's the where's the thought going? It does. Maybe there is no end to the end to the thought. Oh, I was I was going to bring up another Tim Dillon bit about how he said that it doesn't matter if there's someone in your house and they're not trying to murder you.

But if you're you're living in a house and everyone else in the house is convinced that there's someone that's trying to murder them every day, it has an effect even though that's not a murder and they're not going to kill you. So it's like the even if he's not as bad as the the media and all the Twitter and stuff says he is the fact that that's the interpretation of him still has that effect on the the culture. And it's not all the the media's fault. It's kind of both like because when you look at 2016 Trump, it's so different from now. He's kind of leveled off a little bit. He's not as outrageous.

Like he had to be outrageous to win and then they're like kind of echoing that. But that outrage like really triggered lots of people like the the hat, the build-up wall up against Mexico. Yeah, he got the soul man. I mean, yeah. And I don't like in contrast to to Obama, like it's like go listen. Have you listened to Michelle Obama podcast? I haven't listened to it yet. Is it good? It's I mean, it's it's fine if you if you want to if you it's exactly what you'd think them hanging out by them. I mean, I guess that was only one episode, but it's it's basically it's the opposite of Trump. It's like all it's all good.

It's like it's this portrait of these perfect people and maybe they are perfect. Maybe they are the but the the choice of the soundtrack. It's like it's like it's all good and it's it's like it's hip. Yeah, I know. I'm not describing it right. No, you're totally. No, you're totally describing it right. It's like cool, calm, collected. It's what it's what it should be. It's what when we think of being present presidential, it's the cultural thing. You think it really should be and to have that and then Trump like juxtapose those two. It's like that's wild that it swung that far in the other direction.

And just me and my lunacy. I'm more suspicious of the person who looks like what we think the idea of a president should be than the guy who's like, this guy should not be president. Everyone knows he should be knows he shouldn't be president. Like that to me, like I can deal with that. Some guy who looks like fucking Joe Kool, like dude, I'm like, what's this? Like what's going on there? Like, you know what I mean? That freaks me out and not to the point where I think like Obama's like a horrible person or a conspiracy probably seems like a cool guy. By all accounts, every appearance he's had scripted or unscripted.

He just seems like that's who he is and it's fucking cool as shit. But I have no fucking idea what this guy is like. I don't know what he really believes in and no one does because he's wanted, he was one of the few people who was like president of the United States. I'm going to do that. You don't know anyone in your life who has ever really had that thought for more than like a week. Maybe like a week someone went on a fucking acid trip and was like, I can do it. And then they're like, you know how fuck this shit who the fuck wants to be president. But like he did it. And so like it's hard for me to understand the psychology of someone who like is born with that innate desire to do that.

And for me, like it's like sports like I only watch football. I'm really only watching dolphins games. I'm down to that. Like I can't. That was another good tweet you had like no matter how crazy it gets the dolphins still suck or something. Well, you know what I mean? Think of it is like no one inception when they have the constant. It's like the top that spins and that's how they know they're in the reality. It's like the dolphin sucking is like we haven't ascended to like whatever through the portal to like 20th dimension great that's that's that's one of the that's up there with one of the best Noah lines along with one of my other favorites of yours.

I might have already said it on a podcast, but currently charging my crystals with episodes of Seinfeld another excellent plus 10 out of 10. Well, that's the reality I think we're all waiting for. I just think right now it just feels like I don't know feels like muddy lurchy. I'm having like a pretty good time on on par, but I also know like I really bend towards like really positive experiences like I appreciate things even when things that make people would be like whoa that's fucking horrible like I actually appreciate them in a lot of ways. So if I'm feeling at times like what the fuck what the fuck like you know, I can only imagine what many people who haven't like you know been on yachts in Turkey after like six eight months of realizing your imagination creates reality are going through and I really do like appreciate that.

But I think for the most part, like we are in this period where it does feel like third act, it feels like this thing this process, if you can maintain the faith and confidence that like we actually still are on the best timeline, but we didn't deviate that this is just part of the process. These are just like stepping stones on the way. I think we do get to the point where you know, charging crystals with Seinfeld episodes is a day to day reality and maybe even get paid paid by doing that. I mean, you know, have you. Yeah, I think that's the least crazy thing that we're going to see. Yeah, for sure, like she is getting so weird.

Did you have been doing any of the crypto stuff recently? No, you know what, I think about you all the time in many ways, but especially in that way where like, oh, I should just buy like Noah said, like just buy a little bit of crypto every now and then and you won't regret it. And I just don't do it because, you know, I got to open up the site. I have to put the information in it. There's no time for that. I got to watch drum videos or something. There's always a reason not to buy crypto. But then once you go like full degenerate mode, this has been what people in the server I started like three years ago has now wrapped around itself, like the Ouroboros where like I was teaching people about like basic crypto investing stuff and now like they're teaching me about things.

They're like, here's the hot new play invest in this shit coin. It's a fucking casino and like you'll go in like it's insane. It's a really fucking cool place. But what I've noticed in the crypto rally, what's been going on in like the past, I don't know three, four or five months or so since the beginning of the year truthfully, man, it's a trigger for for abundance and fucking just people's relationship to their own lives. What's possible? What can be created? You know, the idea of taking a leap of faith and like risking stuff. It's like really interesting energy to play around with. I only bring it up because it's been like a dominant theme, I think for the past like couple of months because like I've watched people like really like make and lose at various times like life changing amounts of money in like a very short period of time.

It's just like to me, it's like the churning of like a certain type of energy that I find fascinating. I've been trying to explain like my relationship to money internally and I think I'd just like genuinely like find it to be fun. Even like when I'm like, oh no, I'm running out of money. There's something about it where I'm like, it feels like a game like you're running out with rupees and Zelda or something. You're like, oh, I got to go do this thing to get more rupees. Like I don't even mind it. It's like, is this bad? Should I maybe go for a different vibe with money? It's crazy. Me too. I could be making money all day by like buying ads and like promoting stuff to sell.

But I find that when I have enough, I'm like, I'm kind of done with money for a bit. I guess I'll wait till I run out of it and then freak out and then get some more. And there's also the, I mean, I don't really subscribe to this thought, but it is a thought. So I at least partially believe it. I have to predicate everything I say, god damn it, but like I'm like, hey, I'm not hoarding money. I'm not a billionaire. I'm not even a hundred thousand here. You can't yell at me for it because I'm only taking in what I need and then I'm breathing it back out. But I also don't believe in that. Like earlier, we're talking about billionaires and I actually don't, I can't get upset at billionaires.

I'm like, I couldn't do what does he deserve all that shit? Probably not. Capitalism unregulated is not a good idea. I know it's got tons of flaws. But also like some random improv comic shouldn't have the same money as Jeff Bezos. Like he built a very hard thing to build. So did Elon and maybe they're douchebags, but I couldn't do that and they're not making me unhappy by having that. In fact, they make me happy that I can buy the thing by clicking on it. Yeah. And I also just think this is like a general kind of abundance or imaginal thing is like, you have as much as you feel like you have. You feel like you're going to be running out of money.

Like I saw this in the past year, really acutely. I was imagining larger and larger sums of money appearing in my bank account and it kept happening to the point I'm like, what the fucking shit? And then I was like, I forgot to imagine that rather than just the sums of money, like I wanted to feel a certain way when I had the money. So now it's like this total classic, like I find a lot of people are going through money show right now. But you know, like my money is going lower. It's not at a point where I can free freak out, but it's like pre-pre-freak out. You know what I mean? Like you have these stages and I'm noticing that I have pre-pre-freak outs about money.

I'm like, I don't need this in my life. Like I don't need this shit. Like I'm actually done and ready to transcend that. So if you big, the billionaire thing is like, I don't feel like a billionaire, but I could I totally feel like a millionaire. Like I'm very comfortable with the idea of me having millions of dollars, like that's very acceptable to me. I don't feel weird about that at all. And I think if you just kind of accept those types of thoughts and you don't have to go into like the value judgments, what would I do with it? I think it's a nice idea to actually plan what you would do with money because it welcomes in the energy.

But you don't have to think about like, would I be a bad person, like would I spend it selfishly? Would I lose it? Don't think about that shit, but like just feel like what it would feel like. And I'm pretty sure based on what I've seen. Even what my, that mine eyes have told me over the past year, like that's literally how everything works all of the time, literally all of the time. It's a mind. It's a mind. It's a mind. Yeah, we keep forgetting it, but it does. I mean, this is synchronicity, right? We gotta, we always have to bring it back to that. It's crazy. I know. And like honestly, like I forget it as much as anyone like truthfully, but like when you, I think we're being asked to like stabilize that as like a base level core level belief.

And it feels like a relatively important lesson, like a spoke about this today on this thing I'm going to put out tonight. But like, I feel like a lot of people who are here in 3D linear time are here to basically deal with a lot of this dense energy and be able to transmute it. And like it's a pretty big energetic job. It's fun. You have to make a big deal. It's just like, it's like a job. There's gravity to it. It's not like a value judgment. It's just like it feels big. And in order to do that without genuinely like just losing your shit completely is like you have to calibrate to the point where like you understand that that's what's going on.

Base level, base level, like where you don't forget it and slip out of it and oscillate. Or if you do, you don't like cascade down into like this spiral of like was so inaccessible, like the magic is gone, the inspiration is gone like that. That's a very dangerous path that I think people are being asked to like not go on right now. So that's all this feels pretty good to me, even though it does like I will objectively say, it's so fucking nuts right now. But what do you find that is triggering you as the nutsness because I'll find that you know, you just see too many fragmented, crazy statements and opinions or whatever on social media and or the news or whatever you want to call it.

And then you realize you don't have to read any of it. And then after a while passes when you're just looking at escapism, shit, for lack of a better word, you find yourself going, I know Twitter is going to be insane, but I still want to peek in and just see what the insanity is today and I mean, I do the same thing that everyone does with Twitter, like and I'm pretty curated with who I follow, but even then like the stuff leaks in like because now Twitter is literally everyone like I was on Twitter, I think in 2007, when it was just like a few people talking about like whatever they thought you should be talking about.

I think nine. I think nine is when it came out, then 2009, 2009, whatever the first year was, I think that's the that's the year I was on it like six months, like a friend told me about it. There was like nobody on it. You have like five followers like no one saw it's evolved into this like space where like everyone almost feels obligated to share their opinion on things like whether it's just like by retweeting or like stuff and it's just like at a certain point, most people should probably realize that most of the people following them who are real people really don't give a shit about that stuff like genuinely like they may care about it in the moment, but that's it.

They like file it away like they don't care. That's what they do in phone world. I mean, I like Twitter when there's people using it and like, you know, cool and interesting and funny ways or if there's information that's just related like I like a lot of astro Twitter astrology Twitter like that's just interesting to me. So I like it, but like the vitriol literally is like seeping into everything. It's literally like you can't find anywhere where people are. And it's a shame that the yeah, because the and the problems that people are yelling about are real problems for the most part. Maybe not like when when they're saying like, you know, we have to get rid of Aunt Jemima or like little surface level things like that.

Not as big of a problem as private prisons, et cetera, but their their persuasion style is so wrong and persuasion is a skill. And some people think that just yelling your feeling is persuasive, but it's the opposite of persuasive. It kind of pushes people away who would have otherwise maybe rather listened. I also think I mean, for for as much as stuff is nuts out there and I like to use that as fodder, I use my own internal state is like saying when the energy is nuts, because like I do think everyone for the most part has like a base level feeling and it changes and it evolves and it devolves of how you feel like yourself, like if you don't understand what that is, probably needs to like get in touch with yourself.

And when that gets like fucking wobbly for me for no discernible reason, like I'll just wake up and I'll be like, what the fuck? Like why am I feeling like a loony tune today? Like this is weird. That is when I usually will be like, Hey, the energy here and I recognize it's me. I don't want to get that up. But I feel like collectively we've decided to play this game where like we go through shit kind of together in like waves and for whatever reason, I love to know the root cause and I hope it's revealed to me like what is what is going on? Is it like astral, ethereal dust moving through the earth?

Is it like some ghost fucked up? Is it like this Atlantis thing? Is it gods? Like what is it that's actually happening right now that is making like seemingly everyone feel like they're an insane person. I'm like, I know enough people will be listening to this. And I know this will probably like, if I put this out in a week, which I think it will, it'll still be going on like what? What the fuck? Like what? Why? Could it be? Could it be as simple as just hitting that asymptotic novelty curve that McKenna talked about or who else talked about it, maybe Rupert Sheldrake, one of those cats, like how, you know, in the, in the first part of the universe, there's just free floating electrons.

There's not even atoms. There's very nothing going on for billions of years. And then you start to get atoms, you start to get molecules, you start to get a single cell life, you start to get multi-cell your life, you get mammals, you get agriculture, you get internet eventually it's like more and more happens in smaller spaces of time. And now 2020, a whole decade has happened in 2020, probably more than a decade. Like 200 years, dude. It's like, let's be real. What month is it? It's going to go so fast that eventually if something keeps blinking that fast, it just flickers to where it looks like it's not even blinking anymore.

If change happens that fast, it's the same as no change because like, what are you even referencing that's changed? It's already changed. As I'm describing it, it's no longer even that, that thing anymore. And maybe it's all our imaginations are, are not playing in tune. It's a big orchestra that's not in tune yet. And everyone's playing their own fucking bullshit. And not that I want us to be the Borg or all be on one side or. I haven't put this out yet, but I had a drawing that was like, it's just in a sketch form, but like the first half of it is someone saying like, Oh, why are we all divided right now?

What is this bullshit? And then the next side, everyone is acting the same and it's like, what are we robots? How come we all think the fucking same? So it's like, which one do we want? Do we want this division? Do we want there? I think we want diversity of opinion without it being without resorting to name calling and ad hominem attacks like that is what I shouldn't you be able to be a conservative without it being a racist or without a yeah, I think I think conservative so much. I don't even have any conservative press or anything. I just you're like me the hypothetical will be because to you and your life like me and my life that is sort of an underdog energy.

It's like not what you're seeing reflected back in your peers. And I think there's like a class of us that like, you know, as annoying as this can be to people around us at times is like, we don't want to just go with the flow just because that's the flow. If it's a cool flow, yeah, that sounds great. But like if that's why I reacted to Biden so much, I wasn't actually mad at Joe Biden. He didn't do anything wrong. It's just I saw my friends who like I know have better things to do or at least I believe they have better things to do than give a shit about Joe Biden being like, Joe Biden is our only and I was like, no, and I was like, no, and then I realized like, you know, I'm judging them.

I'm doing the same thing. I'm wasting my time in that same energy and I just, you know, I think most of this stuff serves the purpose of kind of refocusing our own energy and awareness on ourselves to like figure out what we want and to me, like is like a kind of inspiring like going into 2021 or even like setting the foundation for this now is like, what do you want in the world? Like, what do you really want in the world? Like, and don't be afraid to like boldly go after that was like kind of the Neville Goddard thing he was talking about. Like I said, he was calling people pussies. He didn't.

He was basically like boldly claim confidently a short interval. People who do that will get results very quickly. But if you kind of say it's going to take a little bit, I don't know, I'm not sure. That's what someone who's accustomed to defeat sense because they're not used to it working in a way where it absolutely can work. If the general premise again is your imagination creates reality, it doesn't mean after two weeks, it doesn't mean after a week, it means whenever the fuck you wanted to get to the point where your mind is malleable enough where you literally can move out of states of consciousness very quickly and consciously with awareness, and you should be having a relatively appreciative experience in life.

I'm trying to shy away from the word like good and great just because I don't think it gives the full spectrum of experience that like actually comes with living like a pretty awesome life is like you're going to go through some shit too, like you're going to experience some like weird fucking anomaly is you're like, what the fuck was that? But if you have the right approach, you'll actually appreciate that shit too. And then you'll know you're fully crazy is when like bad shit is happening to you and you're like, yo, I actually understand that this isn't to fuck my life up. It's actually because people have to like understand that they're in control of their own shit.

Yeah. And when you talk about having the perspective of, you know, appreciating the ride because it's not just all good or great. It's like, we can already do that with music like music is not interesting when it's just happy and it's just all in a major, yes, there's no tension or going into minors or anything like that or even leaving the key entirely or changing the time signatures and we like it in the context of music because we recognize that I'm just a human listening to this flat song that's contained on the headphones, I can take it off whenever I want. But since we're immersed in this song, oh crap, I got to actually feel the down.

But hopefully or not hopefully I do believe this that the higher self outside of this one is already is already enjoying it. And I had the for sure this internal epiphany, I don't know if it sounds right or not. But like how we think that we go to sleep and go to the dream world and then we come back here, but I had it flipped in my head last night like it really was was true to me that, Oh shit, that's the real world. And then I'm coming back in time to these like stubborn realities in between dreams because I missed it like I missed my parents and my friends before they died and before I was here forever.

So I came back to see him again because they're all dead now. That's what it is. This world is dead. This freaks people out so much. It's the most controversial Neville Goddard thing that I parent is I'm like, this world is dead. It's dead. And I think it is you're plucking it from like an infinite spectrum of experience. What you perceive to be yourself is an illusion, not in a scary way, not in a bad way, just as a like this is what's going on type of way. And it's kind of cool that we can even do this. But yeah, I do think that our dream worlds are higher dimensional realities. They're more real than this.

I think they're even more worlds in a cascades up. I'm very confident that that is true. I think the cool thing is is we've managed to string together a linear perspective in time of who we are with the power to tap into that infinite spectrum of possibilities and everything else. That's fucking cool. That's like a really skillful thing to do. Don't waste the opportunity like, Gary about Joe Biden. But let's just have like, I like that this is the like this is the angle of it because I was thinking of like, I love you and I love Jessa and I love Tim Dylan. And I love like, there's all these vastly different perspectives of looking at it.

And I just, I love a different take on things like I'm so bored with the like the regular take. Was it you that tweeted this? But if, if the mainstream media is on your side, you are not the resistance. No, that wasn't me. I think I saw that that we probably both follow. But it's a good thought behind it. It's like, wait, CNN is the resistance now? Everything you see or read for the most part is the resistance because the resistance ideally shouldn't have a PR machine that is getting on like syndicated media. Just an idea. Just the thought like, is the real resistance if I understand what resistances do tend to stay underground to actually cause actual change?

Yeah. But maybe, maybe people are just incapable of it now. Maybe that's just that where we actually are far bit for me to tell people to shut up and not talk. Oh my God. It's not my way. Well, it's like, I think it's cause you're a critical thinker and it irritates you. If you see like complete lack of critical thinking going on, even if it's under the guise of being on the right side of history or whatever people like to frame it as. I guess like critical thinking also is just like, I think I think a lot of people have this ability to see like the contours of like the energy of the situation as opposed to what's being said.

I think Jessa was the first person who I think put this into words where like I really understood it where she's like, you ever know someone's just lying? And that to me wasn't just like the evidence that like, oh yeah, that was the thing and now you do, but there's more subtle degrees of that where you it's not lies, but it's like energy distortions or there's patterns or there even your projections that you're like trying to bounce off another person. And I think more people are becoming aware of that. And what's causing a lot of friction, it feels like collectively and internally for people is like not knowing how to deal with that because like, a lot of people can still hide behind the like, I didn't say that like, I never said that.

I never did that. I would never say those things like internal. You can see what they're doing is like this weird energetic game and everyone's guilty of it at some point. Like everyone does this, you know, like feeling like a victim and trying to play that card, but not like overtly there's all these fucking things that people do and people are becoming more sensitive to it. And I think people are just freaking out. But this is why like, I at least try to remind people that like, the fact that we're cool enough to string together this linear perspective out of infinite possibility means like we're pretty powerful, we're pretty strong, we're pretty good at what we're doing.

You get to choose whether this is like a shitty, chaotic, horrible fucking nightmare. You do or is whether it's like, you know what, there's a function and meaning and coherence and cosmos to everything that's going on. And I just personally find it to be more fun, you know, to find the balance between those things. I like the destruction and I like the creation. I don't think it has to be one or the other. It's not a binary decision. And I think as long as you ride that surfboard, like you can pretty much coast on any of this stuff that's coming pandemic, people, deaths, I think we're dead. We're already dead already dead.

We're already dead. That's it. We are. Oh, yeah. Really are. I mean, how else could we be here? Otherwise this like, what are the odds we'd make it to this moment in history other than the fact that we already died and came back to it? It's so weird too. Like how do people, I feel like that's the one thing about earth that like not enough people like talk about it's like how weird is it that we're alive now? And the fact is, is like most people probably felt like that all of the time. It's not like there was this one time where they're like, how this isn't so weird. This is pretty normal. We can compare it in like a bit like I feel like the nineties was definitely less weird than now, just like objectively but like or subjectively, I guess, but like it's always pretty fucking insane.

If you really remember. Do you remember the phrase, hey, come on. It's the nineties. Do you remember that? It's in every movie. It's in every TV show. And I love that it implies like, hey, we've reached the pinnacle of the future. Thus anything we should try for anything, you know, understanding progressive, adventurous, like, you know, hey, it's the nineties. There was none of that talk post 9/11 and and now it's kind of the opposite. I was in the dollar store as I like to go. And on the intercom, it's like, like to help you through these challenging strange times and like if man, if even the dollar store is saying these challenging strange times.

Is everything still a dollar though? Yeah. If I was the dollar store, just me. I'm just saying. If I'm the dollar store and there's like tough times, everything's 90 cents. Yeah. That's just the show of good faith to people. What's their margin there that they can't drop at 10%? Come on. Do you know how happy people would be fucking dollar store. Oh my God. I like dollar stores. There's good stuff there. So let's, but earlier when you were saying you brought it back to Biden, did I let you finish that thought? It's about Biden also refreshing that we've got friends like Sean and Cass who they're not like Biden people at all.

They're not Trump people either, but they're like, they're not going to settle for anything less than what they believe is right. And like, I love their point of view too. I love Sean and Cass. I love that they're self-proclaimed communists. Yeah. It's like my favorite. They're my only real like on the out and loud and proud communists, but I love that they're the greatest. Yeah. I'm not a communist either, but I, they're my favorite, truly like some of my best friends and favorite people to hang out with. So it really has nothing to do with that. And I know also like that's the other thing like we all kind of believe the same thing.

Like it doesn't really matter like I know like whether we want to call it like capitalist and I feel I've, I've found that I'm more on like the capitalist kind of like a spectrum of like how energy works. I don't know. It's kind of fucked up. Or I definitely like I get it. I probably am too. I don't know. I get it. I get it. I understand why capitalism exists as a thing. It's like an evolutionary impulse. I also understand the pitfalls and downfalls of like totally detaching the idea of currency and money from any real system of value and like how that's used as a tool to kind of manipulate people.

So those two things aren't lost on me, but I also know that like it does feel good to get value for something you put energy into in a specific way. And if dollars or crypto or whatever else is the best expression of that, that's fine. I also feel like there's enough people who accumulate wealth that like know how to use it responsibly. You know what I mean? Like it's not a big deal. It's not like, oh, I got to be weird about this. It's like I find this with this place I have here, not that I'm wealthy by any means fucking anything, but, but I have this place that I'm really not in most of the time.

I'm over at Denise's like live together there. I come here, you know, few days a week and do this type of shit and I'm not your officer. What is that? It's a whole fucking house. It's a fucking house. I rented right off the beautiful Hudson River, but I'm like, I'm really never here. It is like an office studio for me now. But like I'm like, wow, should I be renting it out to like people, you know, my friends want to stay there and I find most of the time my general tendency is just to be like, yeah, if someone wants to come and stay here, come and stay here. Like I really don't need money for you.

The only time I ask for money and it just happened is like if a company is picking it up, if it's like some corporate entity, by all means chalk it up. It's a fucking five star hotel. But if it's a friend, like I don't give shit, what the fuck doesn't matter? It's already paid for. I don't need to recoup like whatever money I paid at the beginning of the month. So like I feel like that's a mentality that if people really understood abundance, that's where you'd naturally kind of gravitate towards. You wouldn't feel like, you know, you got to do this, make that you got to do this, like it's a different type of, I feel like the shittiest stuff I'm doing comes from that place too, like of like lack or like I have to do something for that like, thank God I never felt like that with like readings, but I feel like that's one of like the hardest things someone who does like readings must have to go through if they let them dissolve and just get to that point where they like they feel like they're giving readings for money, that's such a distorted energy that like comes in.

And like, I can only imagine what that does is like someone's psyche, but you know, I don't know. I don't know, man. I don't know. That'd be funny for someone to brand themselves as a very like a right wing, like, but they do astrological readings, but they just happen to align more with Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson or whoever. That's like it's really like to imagine that person, isn't it? But they wear a suit and everything, but it's like what? The same way that there's gay conservatives or whatever or black conservatives likes. I love the idea of people that mismatch what you think they'd be.

And we're seeing more and more of that from like, I don't think there were many gay conservatives in the in the 90s, at least not they were they're closeted. That's the whole thing. That's true. Yeah. And they had to do this whole schism of like hating gay people and then they kept getting caught. It's like, you know, it's the age old tale. It's like, that also leads to the very important point that I think people are finding it harder and harder to do. Like you can't push your shadow stuff, your negative patterns, negative, not as value judgment, just as like once that don't allow you to be the best version of yourself.

You can't push those away anymore. They just keep coming back like over and over and over and if they're literally like goes that haunt you. And if we're dead, that's basically what's happening that we're just haunting ourselves with these specters of situations until we transcend and we're like, Oh, wait a second. We're dead. We're going to go to sleep. That's why I think that bridge between sleep. That's like a, the, you know, the twilight sweet spot. Yeah. Yeah. That's why it's so effective because you walk that bridge back and forth. So if you can implant yourself from being dead back to like being, you know, teleported back up in the fucking Star Trek, you know, that's being me up.

You can, if you remember what you're doing, you're going to have a lot more effectiveness. Like as you continuously go back into this like dead planet cycle, I think that's what it seems to be like for me at least. And when I forget it, that's when also my life gets rockier. It starts to like kind of crack apart and stop making sense because I like forget it. That's weird. Yeah. But I guess we wanted to do that though, right? We wanted to fall asleep a bunch during this last, because after this last push, I think it's kind of goodbye to the regular 3D world. I don't know exactly. I do too. I do too.

I do too. And I don't mean like we're going to die in this world. I actually think it's quite the opposite. But I do think that the way things worked are going to substantially have changed. I think 2024, that's like my stake in the ground where I'm like, people in 2020. President Buttigieg, right? Yeah, God. Jesus. That's my prediction. I think Trump landslide this year, and then I think Buttigieg 2024, but who knows so much could happen. We're going to be an intergalactic civilization then maybe. No way. Buttigieg, no. I mean, it's going to be someone so off the wall that we can't even. I think the rock, someone like that.

Oh, yeah. The Oprah and the rock. Yeah. I feel like because those memes were planted and accepted five or six years ago, they started talking about it. And that's just really effective, dead people, PR, they're like, "I'm going to be the person who's president. Let me get ahead of this right now." And I feel like that's actually what's going to happen. I don't know. Like Moana. He was great in that. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You're welcome. Yeah. Exactly. It's a really good song. And those cheat meals? Who doesn't love a good rock cheat meal? Yeah. And you know, like he's, I know nothing about him and think he's qualified to be president.

I think that's all it takes right now. And every moment of his life is accounted for, like he's not doing shady shit because he's on Instagram every second of the day. You know exactly what he's up to. Yeah. That's trustworthy. I feel like. And I'm with it. I'm totally with it. I don't know, man. Reality is just getting, you're dirty, you're dirty. I just, I hope you're having a good time. I've been enjoying it quite a bit, but I do acknowledge very handsome, rocky, crazy events. I just feel like I'm people's personal lives, especially over the past. I know people are just freaking out nothing.

Right? That's been the general vibe of all the meetings I've been getting from people and all this other stuff. Like people are genuinely like, what the fuck is going on? So like last month felt kind of cool. It's a month before that. I was like, you know, really good. And like, you know, people were kind of like riding this wave and now they're like, what is happening? Did you go too far? Did you push it too far? You know, it's, it's some kind of third act, which I don't know what the next thing is. But I kind of felt that same way. I had a good time in the early quarantine and then you kind of get sick of it.

There's a joke about, you know, when your parents made you smoke a whole pack of cigarettes, when you, they caught you smoking and they made you smoke the whole pack, that's what the first like part of lockdown is like, where you didn't want to smoke the whole pack. But now you know, no one wants to smoke the whole pack. I started smoking cigarettes in Turkey because everyone smokes there. Oh, that's funny. And they're all topless or they all wear burkas. None of the two, right? No, it's the burkas. It's the burkas. Is it a Muslim country? It is a, I mean, dude, five prayers a day. Mona. Oh, really?

No. That's funny. I'm, I know so little about the Middle East and I am Middle Eastern. Never been there in my life tried to learn the history, but it's like complex mathematics is easier to follow than, than reading the history of it. I don't know what it is about this incarnation when I try to read the names of the kings and the histories and the, the things it's just what who are you talking? It's too hard. That's the thing. It's, it's, it's a wild place. I mean, I actually am like learning more about Islam and Muslim because I've been watching this like Turkish soap opera called their true, which is like this historical account of like the tribes of how like Turkey came to be and like the entire show.

First of all, it took me. This is the longest show of all time, by the way. There's like 8,000 episodes, it's the craziest shit I've ever seen, but it took me about like a hundred episodes to realize they're not, they're not kissing at all, like they don't kiss. They're not allowed to. And I wasn't catching it until the end. I'm like, cause they've been building like, you know, they'll like kiss her on the cheek. That's like getting her pregnant or something. It's, it's, it's fucking insane. But Islam, what I've learned is holy shit to those people love God. There is a few in the world who love God this much.

I mean, it is just like obsessive levels of loving God, which to me, not so bad. If you have the proper context for what God is and how it actually like creates stuff, I think it's wonderful. But whole man, that's the whole religion is just we love God. That's it. Oh, yeah. Five times a day. Never depict him in drawings or statues, say his name a lot. It's a certain direction, sleep a certain way. My dad was brought up with very grandparents that were very strict Islam and Iran. So he always developed a really sour taste for it because, you know, he had to, he was only allowed to sleep on one side.

He couldn't sleep on his back or facing the other way and just random little rules like this that just turned him completely the other side from it. You're driving nuts. Yeah. I got that, that angle from it growing up. And then later on, you know, you, you make more. Have you seen Rami? That's what I was thinking. I was, I've seen the first two episodes and the whole series is so great. Yeah. The first episode I, I watched before, like really getting into Islam, which is a weird thing to say. And then I watched again because my friends wanted to watch it after we got back. And I was like, Oh, I get it now.

I get what he's actually making fun of because this is insane. Like, if it's taken out of context and just done it out of kind of like a rote way that this is how you love God, like this specific way, it loses the essence of like what I believe what Islam, the core of it is just to remind people that like this, what we conceive of is God. People know my stance on what that is, it's your imagination, but this should not be forgotten. This should be, you should remember this throughout your day, throughout that like God is great. That is your I am, it's your imagination. From that perspective, it's an incredibly wonderful and effective religion.

Also, I think the perspective Islam has about like how like Jesus is a prophet and like this whole son of God thing. I think that's kind of a semantics thing for like, but I like that they acknowledge every prophet. You know, like I like that that's embedded into kind of the, the mythology of the religion. It's just if like most things taken out of context and you think God is like this dude or like this entity and yours is the only one like that. Like you're fucked. Like it's like you're super off base. And I feel like that's just kind of like what's happening with science, with culture, with politics, with all these things like these gods that people were like, we're worshiping by like putting their attention and awareness into are now crumbling and people are like freaking out.

They're like, well, what's God then? Like, what do we pay attention to? Not God in the sense of like a holy being up in the sky, but like false idols, man. Yeah. We love the false idols, whether it's Obama or some rock star or Trump or, or, or our man JBP who's in, who's in Russia right now, getting, uh, uh, I don't know what he's Jordan Peterson. Is he in Russia? He's like, he had some addiction to some, uh, anti-depressant thing that reacted bad with his body and he almost died and I thought he was Xanax. Maybe it was Xanax. I don't know the full story, but, uh, yeah, that's why he's been absent throughout all this.

Like, otherwise you'd think he'd be, uh, he'd be divine, you know, but honestly, I don't know what the main, I feel like we're in a moment where there is no main, uh, narrative right now. I don't, I don't know what is the, I guess it's most, most place, no, I think it's time like the, the narrative that I can see emerging is for people who really want to shape their reality. This is like the forge, this is like the iron being melted down into like the thing before you forge the sword and like if you freak out that everything is being melted down, you're going to be like, oh no, like it's really hot and everything is burning up and like shit sucks, but then inevitably it's going to be put into like, I don't know, I don't know any blacksmith terms unfortunately, so this is going to be a rough analogy.

But like, you know, you're going to be in, shaped into a sword or whatever you want it to be. And that is what you get to determine basically with your imagination, with your awareness, that to me seems to be like, how do you deal with being in that like, soupy, hot, uncomfortable area of life at times, like, how do you remind yourself and remember that like, you literally can do whatever you want, if you believe it, that's actually true. That's like, that to me is like, I don't know, it's like, I get how people forget it. I forget it all the time too, but I'm going to forget it after this, I'm going to forget it in like 30 minutes, I'm going to go pick up my glasses that are my replacement glasses and I'm going to be stuck in traffic behind someone or something and it all goes out the window again.

That's what I'm saying, man. It's just the fucking, it's a soupy as fuck. This episode I'm about to put out tonight is called the rope of dope, because it's like, you know, the rope of dope strategy with Muhammad Ali and George Foreman, what he did like where George, there's this famous fight between Muhammad Ali and George Foreman. I watched a couple of Ali docs, but I don't remember this one, even though I know they fought. Okay. So they fought and the entire fight, um, George Foreman for like eight rounds is like pummeling him. And George Foreman's a big fucking guy. He's young back then, he's just like beating the shit out of Muhammad Ali.

And the entire batch, Muhammad Ali is basically like going into the corners, like right into the corners, like far back into each one. And it looks like he's just taking a beating and he's just trying to survive without getting the shit. But what he was actually doing, cause in the eighth round, I believe it was the eighth round, you know, he's in the corner here. He sees his opening. He's been absorbing all these blows against the ropes. He's taking the blows with him. He's not getting the full impact because he's going backwards. And he's dodging. He's using the ropes to get around. He just is waiting for the perfect opportunity hit him with the bop, bop, bop, real quick and knocks him out and wins the fight.

And it's like, it's like fucking insane because like the whole fight, it's like, Oh, man, Muhammad Ali, like, you know, he had to get run. And he beats the shit and just dudes much bigger than him. He's stronger than him, but he pulled the rope a dope. And I feel like that's kind of like, was that when the toy term was coined? I believe that's the term when it was, I believe that's when it was coined. I'm pretty sure I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure, like, if you search rope a dope, that's what it was. And I don't know if he said it. Yeah. And it's like, you basically that to me feels like what we're basically being asked to deal with right now.

And I feel like if you can just get through it and like maintain what you want and believe to be possible, there's really no limit to what you can experience in life. But it's just totally predicated on your beliefs. That's the lesson. I feel like that's not your thoughts, your beliefs and that's where people get it twisted because they think like positive thoughts will give you the reality you want. No, the thoughts have nothing to do with it, the feeling, the belief, it's the belief and like the thing is, is like people will be like, well, I can't change this belief. You can play with it. Of course you can.

You always can't. Yeah. It might take a little bit of, you know, like the way you have a piece of clay. You have to like get it moving a little bit. It's very stiff before you start to get that heat and motion into it. And then it starts to become more malleable, but no idea. You have no idea that you're going to this episode on but put out of revising a lot is like it's literally you're plucking the ideas in terms I just spoke about out of. Oh, really? Yeah. In the solo one. Cool. Yeah. I've been thinking a lot of these things. I think so too. You had another tweet about like we're not, we're not like not a moment is wasted.

This was all calibrating and you posted that same day where I had this big like epiphany thing I had drawn out about that and just that word calibrating, I'm like, yes, it's not wasted time. It's calibrating. It is. It's just calibration. It's totally cool. And it also that attitude gives you the flexibility to not freak the fuck out and not like stay in a period of like, oh, no, this is all fucked. I fucked it all up. It's just like, no, no, no, no, no. You just went to that side a little too much. You just got to bring the joy stick back to the big, it's all good. It's calibrating. Get that. Yeah.

It's all. It's all there is to do. I mean, what else are you going to do with your time? Yeah, man. Well, we fucking nailed it somehow some way you get nervous before posting these things because recently I've been like, oh, man, should I even post that? Like what if I have a bad opinion during this? Okay. I like go back and listen to it. I'm like, like Mike Pence is good. The only thing I'll cop to before we add, I'll put this out publicly is sometimes before I record, I genuinely have the thought. Am I a crazy person? And what is what I'm doing actually just pure unabashed insanity. And somehow I've just whipped in this and then like normally like throughout the episode I'll be like, no, like I am crazy, of course, in a lot of ways, but these are coherent thoughts that actually make sense that are strung together in a way that like is communicating what I mean to.

I mean, I felt like that, but I feel like again, that's kind of just like gut check time for a lot of these things. Like I feel like it's really easy to like doubt yourself when you have opinions that are cutting against the grain. I guess I just like, I've had practice over like 20 years believing radically different things. I think that's what makes like, you know, Jessa, you me, it's like you felt and thought these things so acutely for such an extended period of time that a certain point you're just like, all right, this is like, this is actually how stuff is. And now that reality seems to be catching up to what's going on, it's like, oh, great, like fucking finally, we're in this point, no matter how fucking crazy shit gets out there, stuff is literally on fire outside of us, like we're like, no, this is good.

I like this. Um, I don't know, like, and we're also like, I think the overall message of this podcast is we're dead. So like I get as nervous, I get as nervous as you're supposed to be in these types of situations. We're already dead. Can't fuck that up. Right on. Um, let's end with the questions and see how they have evolved or not evolved. Favorite color, purple, favorite number, seven, favorite animal, cat, cool. I'm consistent. I can run for office. You could do it. Are you even real? Or just a projection? Uh, what, what is a promise? I'd tell you if it changes, but in the moment I answer those, they were both true.

That's good. Practical tip, um, start everything with the asking yourself the question, how do I feel right now instead of getting into the monkey chatter of the mind and trying to make it about some kind of narrative or, or something going on in the outside. Just ask yourself, just, how am I feeling right now? And how do you, how do you shift that, try to, try to not expect the outside world to make you feel good, try to feel good, and then you'll see the outside world change. And um, yeah, of course you can read that statement as a, as a, whatever from, uh, from privilege, but you know, you're the only person in your head right now listening to this.

So how do you want to feel? Yeah. How do you want to feel? How do you want to? Oh, yeah. And, and be sure to get out there and vote. It's very important that you like this is, this is going to determine the next a hundred million years. So if you don't get out there right now, just get out there and rock rock and roll. Get out the rock. Uh, rock the vote. Yeah. Rock the vote. Yeah. Rock the change. Rock the. Yeah. Uh, yeah. Uh, drop the beat for voting. You know, all the things that you do that are critically important to life. I love it. Uh, okay. Where can people find you? I am a subscriber to your Patreon, which someone in my Patreon, or I think it'll be the Discord server, didn't know that you had.

And I was like, listen, you know, if you need to hear it from me, it's, he actually posts like a lot of stuff there and like really, like actually posts musings and things. My Patreon is a train wreck where I'm just like missing things because I'm on vacation all the time. And yours, like you're actually like writing things that are nice. Oh, thank you. So there's that. What else? What else do you do? Um, there's my site, romaine nazer.com that's got all my books and posters and everything. And also a rainbow brain skull podcast. There's a good episode with Noah. There's another good Noah episode on the Patreon.

I highly recommend those ones and the other ones and, um, yeah, stay frosty out there, kids. Yeah. That's good advice. Romaine. You're the best. Thanks for having me. We'd love to talk to you again or we should just do an off mic catch up soon. Yeah. Let's do that. And then share our real controversial opinions. Yeah. Like, what should we not say? I know that. I mean, I only know this stuff I can't say is just like actually not suitable, you know, because it's violating people's trust. That's the only thing that I think that I can say, that's the only that's the only barrier. I think I have left in this life in terms of what I won't record and publicly put out.

I think everything else, like every internal thought is just like it's fair game. Yeah. And I think hopefully just our the vibe will will communicate that your heart is in the right place. Even if we might have a opinion where like a few weeks later, we're like, Oh, that was kind of a stupid opinion. Shout out to get people. Shout out to get people. Shout out to get people. Shout out to get people. Shout out to get people. Shout out to get people. Shout out to get people. That people will tell me what I gotta say. That's just true. I don't know what to do. I just know that I say with it, don't let them play and I'll say it for a moment.

When you don't have a body, easy young to fly around. And you know that time doesn't really exist outside of your mind. And when you don't have a body, you see this clearly here and when you relate to it, time doesn't exist. Have a good time. Okay. Okay. Okay. Alright. Pick another car, make the star go up your mind. Ow. Ow. Ow. Thanks for listening to that episode. Go check out Rameen at Rainbow Brain School, his site, RameenNazer.com. He's got everything. His art is truly the best. Pick up a print. Pick up a book. Pick up anything. Follow him on Instagram, Instagram, just like, you know, he's a cool fucking guy.

There's going to be cool stuff coming from his way for the foreseeable future. If you enjoyed this episode and want more, you can join the Patreon. You get access to every episode that's ever been released on Patreon, all of the Q&As that we do, all of the Zoom sessions, basically everything is there, all of the music that is on this show, full releases, remixes, edits, originals, they're all there too. I know people ask about that. And then readings. A lot of people have been asking about readings. There's the ones you can book through the website and there are now also the ones I'm doing on Instagram.

I started doing those again. So there's shorter timeframes, like 10 to 15 minutes and they're for less money. So if you've been waiting for kind of an opportunity to do them, just tune into the Instagram and I do those at least once a week. So that will be, it's just like a nice vibe. I feel like the other day I did like 10 of them and just the themes that come out through the collective. I fucking, it's useful for me. So that's why I do them. So you can tune in there if you want to find readings there. Everything else, surprise, straightforward. Things are good. All right guys, until next time, happy imagining.

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