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Jan 30, 2020 · 01:20:02 · S17E7

Lou From The Bronx

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My brother from another mother, Lou from the Bronx (and friends), stopped by Synchronicity central in Laurel Canyon to talk choice, circumstance, any potential limits of the power of your wonderful human imagination and Kobe.

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Welcome to Synchronicity. My guest this week is my dear friend, Lou, from the Bronx, as he says. I've known Lou for, we were talking about 12 years, 11 years, holy shit, we are best of friends. Brothers, one might say. This has been one I've thought about this podcast for a little bit because there's so many good things here. A, this is an atypical guess in the sense that a lot of people I bring on, it's not that Lou, isn't like minded, it's that his world, where he grew up, what he lives in, is just radically different from my day-to-day, I mean, well, let's be clear. My day-to-day existence is radically different from most people, but let's say most people in life who I've come across lose life is very different.

That's one of the coolest things about my life, is I've met so many different people in so many different places, so many different backgrounds and you can time see that. Everyone is the same at the end of the day, kind of want all the same stuff. But this episode is also really cool because like for, since I've known Lou, we've gotten in discussions slash disagreements slash arguments, so he comes at all these imaginations though, from a very practical kind of grounded, let's go real life perspective, but as life gets trippier and trippier and weirder and people start seeing more objective proof of kind of crazy shit, you know, people are like, oh, maybe there is something to this weirdo stuff, but Lou is like, you'll hear, a lot of this episode is just me yelling and him yelling, so get ready for that, you know, it's just me going, listen, listen, listen, so you'll get to hear another side of me, but yeah, I think it wraps up really nicely here.

I think we put a really kind of like nice, well, there'll be tons of these. One of my ideas, if you guys like this, you can let me know, know@syncpodcast.com, leave a review, write things and say, hey, we really like that Lou episode, we want to hear more of that 'cause I want to get Lou on more podcasts in general and maybe even do his own where we bring up like kind of like weird shit going on in the spiritual world, just like, you know, fucking weird woo stuff that's like so far off the deep end and just get his reaction 'cause it's hilarious, it's like fun, like, if you could see his face during this shit too, like, I've never thought video was applicable, but like, his reactions are priceless.

So yeah, this is one of my favorite episodes I've ever recorded. There are people in the background, there also is, there is, what I would describe is an ordinary amount of blunt smoking going on. I'm used to it, people who know me, I mean, it was not uncommon back when I was living in the city with my roommate Frank, we would smoke 20. 'Cause I fucking construction, I mean, it's goddamn foolproof. There's construction downstairs, so that's going on. Also, a little update about Phoenix people think I'm going to the Jessa thing, 'cause I said I was going, I'm not going, I'm leaving early, I'm going back to New York to handle some business there, take care of some shit.

Also just like, 'cause that's where I'm supposed to be right now, so you can rest assured, whatever I say, I'm definitely gonna be somewhere. It's probably like a 70% chance, but I will be back in LA in the not too distant future. I'm sure there'll be more soberish meetups, we'll do some synchronicity meetups, we're gonna get stuff planned, I'll be all over the country and the world this year. That I actually can promise you, so that means there's a 70% chance, but I actually will. So stay tuned for live events in that, sorry, I know like a lot of you were coming to Phoenix and we were gonna hang out, that will happen at some point, I cannot believe there's fucking construction.

These fucking guys, anyway, it's just like it's foolproof. You'll also hear construction here, this is a nice segue, you'll also hear construction in this episode, 'cause that was going on then too. So if that's not a sign for me to keep it moving, I don't know what is, that's insufferable. Can you guys hear it, it's probably like a faint din for you and I could probably do something to take it out, so I just sound like a crazy person, but it's pretty loud and annoying for me and I'm wearing noise. All right, I'm back, I'm sure construction will start at any moment, even though there's been many hours since I was last here recording this.

I don't remember what I was saying, how could I? Who am I? Fucking, who, I don't know, I was gonna say Houdini? What, Houdini wasn't good at remembering, was he good at remembering stuff? He was a magician, illusionist. I took these day caps, you guys know the cookies, dispensary, sponsor me cookies, I love your shit. Although, too much, too much indica, but they have these day capsules, 100 milligram, THC capsules, they're good, I recommend them. So this is gonna be a different part of the intro where I am pretty fucking high. Yeah, this episode with Lou is great. He's just, I like talking to my friends and it's pragmatic, it's realistic.

You'll hear him be like, listen, you can't imagine yourself out of jail. There are some people who can't imagine themselves being smart and good, and I don't know how eloquent and how persuasive I was in the middle of this. Like I said, it's a lot of him yelling over him, but yes, you can, yes, you can. You really can imagine yourself out of any situation and so can anyone else. There's no special power I have that you don't have. That's important to remember. I'm you pushed out, everyone is you pushed out. That's how this stuff works. I'm gonna talk in a speak a little bit, and next we'll give you a teaser of next week's episode is gonna be about relief, satisfaction, and gratitude and how those are all related and very powerful states of consciousness and tapping into those can be, not can be, is transformative in the best possible way.

Anything else I need to say? Readings, book 'em. I'm gonna be putting 'em on Instagram too. I feel like people just see them there. It's easier for them, but book them on the website. Syncpodcast.com/readings. Just do it because I'm not gonna do 'em forever. I already know that. I'm gonna do them while I have this level of awareness and attention and the ability to do it. So that's your call. If you're wondering whether you should do 'em or not, go check it out. I got this whole testimonials thing going to convince people who aren't sold already because people are like, yo, do you have testimonials?

'Cause I'll totally give you one. I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got you. So that's going on, what else? I don't know. Stuff, good things, music. I'm making so much music. When I get back to New York, I mentioned that I'm not gonna be in Phoenix. I think I mentioned that in the beginning. Don't worry, I'll be back here in LA soon. I'll be back all over. I'm gonna be all over the place. I'll see you soon, basically, is what I'm saying. But in New York, like I said, we're gonna do live events, but music, I'm whipping it out. By the middle of this year, there should be several projects fully realized and released into the world.

I'm very, very, very excited to share this stuff with you. You get little teasers on this podcast. You're among the select few of here that missed stuff before people. So that's going on. Anything else? I don't know. There's nowhere to really connect with Lou. He's in the ether. You'll see him at events or something. He was gonna be a part of the MindPod network already now. He has his voice, right? It's so cool. You haven't heard it yet, this is the beginning. Anyway, you'll hear it in a second. Support other MindPod network podcasters. I'm blitzed, guys. Holy shit. These day capsules, that's it.

This is it, I like it. I'm like blitzing the best way. It's like creative, energetic, but boy, oh boy. I can feel it now. All right, so that's going on. Ween February 14th. I'll see you there. If you're gonna be there in New York City, that's going on. It's gonna be fun. Support the show. Oh, Patreon. Do that. I'm really putting stuff on Patreon. People know, people know, people get it. They see what's going on. That's a thing that's so high. I luckily don't have anything to pitch or do. I told you, I saw Jess stand up last night. That was awesome. Those on Tuesday. What day is today? Wednesday, fuck.

This is the worst intro of all time. It's fun. Life is good. It's all good. Let's get to this episode. This is the most butchered intro of all time. Without further ado, here's my friend Lou. (gentle music) (mellow music)

Well, you will die with nothing in your pocket.

Well, it's impossible.

Can't take anything with you.

I'm not even recording.

I'm definitely recording that. It's all recorded. We don't have to put it out there. You're quiet though. You're barely. You're barely. (mellow music) Now, by the way, broke is the wrong word 'cause it's not about money. It's about circumstance. It's more about circumstance. 'Cause if anything, nobody's asked to be in certain circumstances, period. Like I'm not, I didn't ask for my mother to be addicted to cocaine or to terror, you know what I'm saying? The shit like that is like circumstance. So people who are born to shit like that, they gotta at least, like I said, the analogy I have for me is a magic-grader ventures.

Everybody's waiting online. And some people have the easy path. Some people don't wait online. I'm hoping those that I have, you know, are less fortunate or have fucked up circumstances or anything like that who suffer more than most people and at least have that. They do. You know what I'm saying? At least they know they can't be. Like you can't be like, let's say like Bill Gates and then you got the easy path when you die, now you gotta do something bro, you just I don't.

Oh no, no, no, no, no.

You gotta say like that, don't look at it like that. That's, that'll bind you too.

No, it's not about binding, no. I'm just, 'cause I don't consider myself less fortunate. I have both my parents still. My son knows who they are, you know what I'm saying? My immediate family's all right. None of them suffer. My grandma's still alive. I didn't grow up suffering. My parents weren't fiends. My parents weren't addicted to any fucking shit that I was ridiculous. So it was like, I'm not even talking about me. But I know, and my friends, I got many friends who like, you know, who am I to judge that person? I didn't grow up in that circumstance. You know what I'm saying? What I'm doing right now, I actually chose to do.

I never forget, I'm not gonna say no names, but my good friend, the first time, one of the, I say the first, yeah. He used to be like, yo bro, why you doing this though, bro? Then you go to school. Then you do this, then you do that. I'm like yo bro, I'm outta work. What do you mean? I'm trying to get bread just like you. And he couldn't get it. He's like yo bro, but like, I didn't go to school. So I understand why I'm doing it. Why are you doing it? You know what I'm saying? So like, again, I chose to do what I'm doing. Certain people didn't have no choices. You know what I'm saying? What you're gonna do?

You're gonna let your moms get served by, you know what I'm saying? Or you're gonna serve your moms? Or like, you're gonna serve 'em, but you're gonna make sure she gettin' shit that you know. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, just a lot of shit that in this world, if you suffer, I just hope, you know, eventually you--

But the question is, do you think there's a way to actually change those situations without having to take external action explicitly to get ahead and alleviate yourself?

Oh, yeah. - I'm just saying, do you think that's, I'm not asking you--

Do I think every person in a fucked up predicament has the ability to unfuck up that situation? No. - Why not?

I think if you fucked up, I think there's levels to fuckin' up this.

Of course. - I think if there's a, there's like a threshold, you know, like a threshold, like if you pass this point of fuckin' up, there's no looking back.

But when you look at, do you, okay, let me say this. If what I've been talking about, which is your imagination or your consciousness creates your reality, if you understand that, if you really understand that at a deep level, more than someone else, let's say, don't you believe that your conception of that person literally creates that person? You understand what I'm saying? So if you say, hey, this person is fucked up, they're irredeemably fucked.

No, I'm not trying to judge, I'm talking about somebody judging themselves. I'm not even talking about me judging, who am I to judge anybody? I'm talking about, you know yourself, you know certain things that you can't do. Like for example, like, you talk a lot about subconsciousness and shit like that. Well, let's talk about regular consciousness. Let's talk about the thoughts that you do have in your head.

Yeah, absolutely.

Some you don't act on, some you do act on. Let's say the ones that you don't act on, let's say one day you do act on that.

Right, they may not be no coming back from that.

Okay.

It'd be that simple.

Okay, but that's life in general.

Imagine yourself getting out of the situation.

Oh, wow.

Once you're in it.

So they're, can I give you the perfect scenario? Can I give you the perfect scenario?

Yeah.

All right, you are perfect example. You are not a pedophile because you didn't never touch the kid, but you like to watch it all night. And now they bust you for watching the online. And now you in jail for that. What the fuck are you gonna do? You're gonna dream every day like you tellin' me? I'm a dream every day and just magically get out of jail?

So, so, so, what's interesting about this story, I was hoping you were gonna use jail as an analogy. There's a, so Neville Goddard is the guy I was telling you a little bit about him. He's this 20th century mystic. He's from Barbados. I tell you this guy.

That's a guy that's a guy that got your story with all this, right?

Yeah, in a way.

You too, that's a good story.

Yeah, it's the stuff I put on YouTube and like the talk.

God bless that man.

God bless that man, by the way.

For real.

For real. God bless for coming here.

I know, for real, God bless.

What's his name again?

Neville Goddard.

Neville Goddard. And what is he again?

He's from Barbados.

Barbados, I like that.

A white dude from Barbados.

Nah, see, fuck that up quick. I was about to say that color boy that you just said boy.

No, I knew it. I had to get in there.

So, he's not even originally from Barbados.

He is originally from Barbados.

Oh man, so he was doing wicked things.

No, no.

He was there for originally.

His family was poor originally.

I don't know where he was.

No, but they were. He has many stories.

Yeah, all right.

I got to do my research.

Let me not judge you.

I'm just saying, it's okay. It's all good. But he has these lectures and in several of them, he uses one example in his own life when he was drafted into the army during World War II and he was literally like, he's like, fuck. I'm about to like have to go fight a war. He was like in his 40s but they still got drafted back then. So he used this technique to imagine himself in his apartment in New York and he got rejected like two times by his commanding officer and then eventually, look how low that thing is. Then his commanding officer basically let him, they basically let him out of the army for having a job essential to wartime peace which was ridiculous because he was like a lecturer.

There was no like real essential task. But anyway, he got out. But he also talks about stories of people being in jail and specifically either they use it or a family member uses it and it gets them out of jail. What I'm trying to tell you is quite literal.

Oh, all right, no.

Now this is not an excuse to do something that gets you and it has to be a believable, yeah.

Because you're my brother. I'm gonna give you 4% of the people in jail all time history who have ever practiced that method. Maybe 4% of the message. How many do you think them really understand that that's how things work though?

For real.

Bro, I'm talking about, you put a number out of one many people, let's just say who have ever been to jail. How many of those people you think have used that method?

Not that many. So you telling me it's 100% that everybody who used that never has gotten out.

I will tell you this that rather than thinking of it abstractly for people in jail, it's employed in your own life and see what happens. Don't worry about other people until you have the empirical proof that it works or it doesn't. That's number one. Number two, yes, yes. If someone genuinely understood this principle as a law, an operative principle, 100% of people who employed it correctly would absolutely go out of jail.

My biggest thing is this. I'm not saying it doesn't exist. I'm not saying that people don't use it. What I'm saying is there has to be a threshold. There has to be a point where at one point that's not gonna help you. So a really good-- - You know what I'm saying? There has to be like nobody you fucked and you fucked up.

So there's not. This is also what's known as judgment and mercy. So like, God is merciful, right? Everyone is hard that, right? God is merciful. If what I'm saying, God is, is your imagination. That's the only God. That's the only real thing. It means no matter who you are, no matter how fucked up the shit you did, at the end of the day, when you're judged, you're good to go.

But then, okay, okay, okay. So you're telling me, after you die, you get judged. No matter what.

So dying, all right.

No, no, just asking me that. You get judged when you die.

No, you're constantly in this process while you're alive as well.

Okay, so, but you do get judged though.

You're doing it right now. You're doing it right now. You just don't have a body when you die. Or you reconstitute it to a basically like a 19 or 20 year old version of yourself. As best as I can tell, that seems to be the most consistent and backed up theory that I've found so far. 'Cause whenever I talk about it, a shit load of people hit me up and they're like, yo, when I was 19 or 20, this crazy shit happened. I got in a car accident. So one of my family, I'm just telling you, what I think happens is you don't recognize where we are and what this function of this world is and who you really are, like at a very deep level.

When you die, when you physically leave this, you come back to a 19, 20 year old version of yourself in a world just like this, seems almost exactly the same. You would have no idea. It'd be like waking up from going to sleep one day, wake up and just run your life over again until you fucking understand what this is.

Holy shit.

That's what it is.

Yeah, that's interesting.

Yeah, I tried to disprove it. When I first heard about that, the first, my reaction was like, nah.

And you're fixing that off people giving the feedback?

Oh, I heard, so what I started to do, I mentioned it-

I don't know how the fuck they know about dying.

I just mentioned this, like I did here on a podcast episode and I said, you know, this guy said this thing and I was like, that's weird. But then I personally, before I mentioned it on a podcast, went to my friends. I was like, yo, did anything happen to you? Like 19, 20 and an inordinate amount of them, including myself, I was like, fuck. Like specifically that year. And then some people were like, well, couldn't you say any year there was like some crazy thing to happen?

But even if it did, what does that have to do with you dying and waking up to that being that age?

I don't get the correlation.

'Cause you just keep, okay. The correlation seems to be about that age. Okay, that's a great question. So I've been thinking about that. The reason seems to be that age in 1920 in this linear timeline and this society is when you're really making a transition from light of like an adolescent kind of figuring out who you are as a person, you tried shit on when you were a teenager, you're solid, solidifying into a person, you're about to embark into the real world as an adult, so to speak, right? So that's-

That's like glass here for somebody in this room, just to let you know.

For real, but it isn't. This could be something that he would look back on in this trip.

There's literally like glass here, he was about 20 years old, right?

Yeah, so I'm just saying, it's within the range.

So we have to go, all right.

It's within the range. Yeah, it's within a range, but in 1920 in particular, some major life event has been caught. I'm not saying for everyone, that would be really unusual, but I mean, enough that enough people have gotten in touch with me with very specific stories of like, yeah.

All right, I might tell a question. If you could pick an age to come back to, and start over, if you could pick an age.

Me?

Just personally?

All over your same life again.

Me personally?

Yes, you.

In 1920?

1920, I think I'll go a little before that.

That's what I was thinking, but then I thought about it.

I think 1920, I already want to be like, you know?

That's what I was thinking.

I want to start it earlier now.

I was thinking about that, but I don't think so.

I'm not thinking here in 1920.

There's restrictions.

I'm talking about the age in 2020.

No, no, no, no, the reason being for me is the restrictions are lifted a lot after the age of 18.

No, no, that's a fact people view you different. You just got to get different.

And you can do stuff differently.

What?

Had I had the knowledge I had at a younger age, I think a certain thing.

Oh, you mean now?

Oh, yeah.

I can circumvent a lot of things, you understand?

So you can do that is what I basically am proposing, is that what you do is you go back to a younger version.

I'm still warming up to the first idea.

Okay. (laughing)

Let me ease me here, bro. You try to get me in the middle of the ocean. It's a ain't there down the smoke.

That is how I do it. All right, let's get in a boat first, yeah.

I'm walking in, I'm walking into the pool. We'll start out at the pool. And I'll even go into the ocean, yeah. My brother's gonna go to the pool. I'm in the kitty, I'm in the kitty boat. Kitty section. You know, I got my life vest on, I got all kind of shit.

All right, kitty pool, kitty pool's fun.

Eventually, you know.

We do go to the deep waters pretty quickly.

We're gonna get there, but um.

Yeah, a lot of interest in shit you see.

Basically, most of the stuff as I encountered it, it hits you so weirdly, logically, that it's almost so weird that it interrupts this process that we have of like, is this shit real? And you're just like, wait a second, wait a second. It's like, I don't know how to describe it. But if you really do engage with the ideas and start trying to test, either to disprove or prove them, that's when shit starts to get weird. Because then it's like, okay, wait, wait, let me prove this crazy motherfucker wrong. Like, this is just clearly not true. Or you go, let me just test it to see if it is true. Either route there leads to the same conclusion if you genuinely pursue it.

If you just kind of get bored and you're like, fuck this, I'm gonna keep going along with my life, that's obviously the results you're gonna get. But if engaged with like, truthfully, honestly, even for a little bit of time, even that mirror technique, which I said takes like a minute, your whole life begins to change in very significant ways. And for the better, like, that's the truth. Like, most people when they have desires, like it's to make their lives better or the people's around them lives better. Like, that's literally what almost everyone is thinking about, if everyone, actually everyone, even fucking people would say are kind of like shitty.

They still want their lives to be better.

No, that's a fact. I believe that. Oh, you just, well, you just dead.

Yeah, you're dead, you wouldn't be alive. That's why I know people have desires. When they're alive, you have desires, that's what that is.

'Cause even if they bad desires, they're at least something.

Exactly. That's how I know when someone says to me, like, "Hey, I've reached a point where I don't have any desires." I'm like, "No, that's not true, you'd be dead." You would not be here.

You definitely will kill yourself.

You would be dead. You would be dead.

But that's when you're wanting something, though.

Well, it is. It doesn't solve anything.

It's technically wanting something.

Killing yourself would most likely be--

Like, I wanna die, so.

Yeah, it would most likely be indicative of you'd be gone back to a 1920-year-old.

It's not an immutable law, there are people who died before the age of 19-20.

All right, so then, all right, let me give you a scenario. What if somebody significant died at the age previous to that 19-20-year-old?

That's what I'm saying. I said, there's plenty of evidence in the back.

It has to be, yeah, it has to be.

There's totally exceptions to it. I'm just saying people our age. People who live past the age of 19-20. That's a threshold. Those six-year-olds, those five-year-olds are probably like, "Yo, did you live to seven?" Like, "No, I never got that."

I'm talking about one more point.

I understand what you're saying.

I'm talking about, let's say your moms died at eight.

Oh, when I say you come back, it's other dimensions. It's other dimensions.

No, but like, all right, so I'm pretty sure a lot of people who, let's say, have the pleasure of approaching a long, you know, an elderly age. I'm pretty sure they look forward not to dying, but to maybe look forward to seeing people that have died already.

Yeah.

So let's say, like, a friend, the moms died of a cousin.

Yeah, yeah, that exists too. That exists too. You got to understand you're existing on multiple levels of reality. This is just one of them. This is almost the dentist's basis.

Okay, now reality co-exists is what I'm saying.

It does.

Everybody's reality is different than you.

Yes.

You're telling me there's a billion different realities?

Infinite.

That doesn't make really too much sense.

It does make. Perfect sense, if you think about it. If me and you have the option, if we both want this same one project in the TV.

Yes, now this is a great question.

We can now.

Both have.

This is a grace question.

Then there has to be if we both have it. The only logical way to say is that we're in two separate rooms. We can't be in the same realm.

Okay.

You know what I'm saying?

I do understand what you're saying. We may, if it's one specific item, we may not be able to co-own it in this, just like time and space work here. However, it's certainly possible for us to vote on this TV. In the sense that, let's say I own it from June to July. You own it from August to April. I'm just saying there's ways that ownership expresses itself over time.

I don't even want it to prove your point.

Yes.

Then yes, you will be like, yes, so I can have it from June of July.

No, I'm just saying that ownership doesn't express itself at the same. It's like occupying, like, there's infinite versions of you. You know what's not going to happen? One of them isn't going to walk into this room and be like, hey, Lou, what's up?

Right, but what I'm saying is, my alternate universe, you may not exist in that. That's what I'm saying.

Absolutely. I mean, it's possible.

I'm not saying it's not possible, but what I'm saying is, for example, if you shape your own reality, you know what?

As do you. As does everyone.

Right. But what I'm saying is, I get that. Okay. So you're telling me, yeah, we, actually we do. Because I want it to be here.

Right.

And hopefully you wanted me to be here.

Correct.

I get that. But there's, you're telling me there's no coincidence. There's nothing by chance.

You are pre-selecting everything in this dimension. There is what you're probably referring to as choice or decisions that are made, but you do it in consciousness.

No, my chance.

My chance.

Um, my chance.

No.

So everything is subconsciously thought of in telling me.

Correct.

You can change that improvement to yourself. So there is choice, but there's nothing that's in accident.

All right. So then what you're saying is, since everything is, is, is, choose or chosen, right? Because if everything is chosen.

Yeah.

Then you choose to make mistakes. You choose to pick something that eventually is not the right thing to do.

You specifically do that to teach yourself things related to lessons about that. Also, even when you're talking about things.

For the corners of how painful it is.

Correct.

Let's say cancer. Let's say cancer. Let's say someone gets cancer. You can look at cancer as this totally chaotic thing that just happens to people for no reason.

But you don't choose. I'm talking about choosing something. I'm talking about, I chose, I chose this box. This box is my fucking favorite box.

You pre-selected.

And I wanted that box.

You pre-selected.

I pre-selected that box.

Correct.

Just so that that box can end up ruining my life. And now I hate that box.

Well, that's a...

You know, I got another box that I want.

Doesn't this sound like what a lot of people...

So what you're telling me is...

Doesn't this sound like what a lot of people do in life?

What?

What you just described?

Yeah, but what they don't choose is the pain that is my cause.

Not consciously. Maybe not consciously.

Some people have... Some people deal with things differently.

Maybe not consciously.

But some things are hurtful.

Of course.

Of course. No one's denying.

So who would want to choose that?

Many people who are experiencing it. Because something that pain and suffering can teach people is a very effective teacher.

Not all people.

Not all.

I said many. I didn't say all.

Okay. So I'm speaking for the... I'm speaking for the... Not the many.

You're saying...

I'm speaking for the rest of the people.

I'm just saying...

That didn't choose that.

They did choose it at a deep level when that is allowed to express itself.

Oh, so that's on the other side. That's the subconscious.

That's the subconscious. That's no. You are there. Everyone is there. But pain and suffering and problems and issues are not there to fuck your shit up. They're there to show you something.

I get that, but who chooses that though?

You do. Every individual about it.

Oh, no, man.

Give me an example.

I don't know.

Pick one in your life.

Um... I really... I don't know when you want to...

You don't have to. You don't have to. in if someone creates a situation in their way.

All right, so what about someone who chooses someone to have a kid with?

Sure.

And then that relationship turns into something.

Yeah.

That you totally regret. Not only do you totally regret it, it's not only disaffecting you, it's affecting your kid.

Yeah, absolutely.

So now, who in their right mind would tell me that you choose that? Nobody wanna choose that?

But you're saying one would totally regret having the child in the first place?

No, it ain't about the child. It's about the relationship.

Well, the relationship is what eventually the child was made from.

But the child can still be the function of that relationship in a very impactful way for both parents. Do you understand, regardless of the relationship?

But again, you gotta understand. You look at it from such a broad point of view. If I give you variables, a situation, it's gonna be hard to come. It's gonna be hard for you to tell me or convince me that somebody chose that.

I'm not saying that they consciously--

I could give you a fucker to tell you.

Let me try to explain.

And then you're gonna tell me, yeah, but he chose that. Some kind of way, subconsciously, in a deep level. He chose hell.

Let me try to explain that most of us in the past, especially, do not know how to communicate with our subconscious minds. Do not know how to communicate with the aspects of ourselves that actually reveal things. What's up, man? So if you do learn how to do that, if you genuinely understand how to build that bridge from your conscious to subconscious, you will see how those bridges that created pain, suffering, and exam, things like that, you've created those. You'll see it very clearly. There's a chair right there, bring it down. Basically, you will see that you've created those situations and what will seem like situations that were created outside of you.

You'll understand why you created them, what their function was, and specifically how you transcended them. And it'll probably teach you a lot about yourself and how powerful you are, like all everyone's problems do. Whenever someone goes through some really shitty thing, if they get through it and they look back at that shitty thing, most people will say, that in some way taught me something or showed me something about myself or life, that yet, even though it was fucking terrible at the time, it showed me some deeper aspect of myself that was powerful.

If you're optimistic, if you're optimistic--

If you're optimistic, if you're optimistic, but if you're optimistic, you can find a good--

But what I'm trying to say is what I'm trying to say is what you're referring to as being an optimistic person. If you understand that literally by changing your mind and pre-selecting of how you would like to feel, so if you've noticed yourself being pessimistic and fast and you go, you know what? That was just how it was in the past. Now I'm optimistic. You will literally change and start running that script. The way it is is you're producing a movie. You're the producer, you're the writer, you're the director, and the actor. Here in this reality right now, we're the actor. We're running the script of something we've already directed, written, and produced.

If you go to the level of the producer in your imagination and pre-select something with a feeling and a scene, you can prove this to yourself and you have no choice but to run it out. If you go, I'm amazing, I do this amazing. I make money all the time effortlessly. I do whatever I want, and you really feed that to yourself and you understand how to build that bridge effectively, you cannot not do it. You will, like someone does this all the time, someone thinks they're a clumsy person. I'm a clumsy person, oh this is what I do. They've programmed that into themselves. They will now start acting out the program with a clumsy person.

Furthermore, if mine understand this is how it works and I view you as a clumsy person, you don't have any control of your emotions or your imagination, I make you a clumsy person. This is why when you get around some people and they're like, oh man, this person, like, their presence is so like, it makes you act different. You're like, why do I act like this around that person? What's going on? This is literally the same mechanism at play. So that's where we start bumping up against each other but the easiest way to prove it is do it yourself. Prove it to yourself for us that this is how things work.

Pick something that seems completely impossible to do, something that you couldn't do through other means. Start with changing your mind. Start with just accepting it because what's the harm?

I get it, I get it, it's so so simple, bud.

It is that simple. The outcome, little.

You have to believe in the outcome. So faith, faith, what faith really is is just loyalty to the unseen world. When you go in your imagination and see something and experience something or hear a friend congratulating you for something, if you accept that, that's faith. That's prayer. Prayer is just imagination plus faith. That's how you pray. If you pray to an external God, that may work sometimes depending on how much you believe in a God but if you pray for real, which is your imagination is God and you pray for real, for real, for real, you will literally understand what prayer is. It's imagination, imagining something plus faith, which is loyalty to that unseen world.

That's literally what it is. That's the whole process. That's the same Esau and Jacob thing we were talking about too. It's literally just shutting out the world and all the feedback here, not in a way that makes you reckless or disengaged or a weird way, you just shut out the feedback here. You know that this shit is real that you imagine in your head have loyalty to it.

I need you to go read that again 'cause...

What, the Esau and Jacob.

Yeah, and the specifics on that.

All right.

I'm trying to tell you about it. When I read it, it sounded, I don't even want to get into that but it sounded--

You don't want to do Bible stuff or no? People, it's a mixed bag, some people love it, some people hate it.

Nah, nah, nah, nah.

So it gets too touchy. I don't want to, I don't even need that.

People who listen to this don't, for the most part, are not touchy about it.

I'm just saying it's, my opinion is, we go both with the same thing and argue for days above.

That's right, it's like wave.

So is that-- - Like anything. It's not arguing at all.

Well, it's testable.

It can turn the talkers 'cause I argue with, I argue with people all the time about--

Sometimes.

And I tell them, I'm like, yo bro, like--

Sometimes you do. Sometimes you don't.

A fact is the fact that I can't argue.

So facts, here's the thing.

You're a fucking laptop.

Facts overflow the world. That's another thing that Neville Goddard used to talk about. Our willingness to believe things that are presented to us by external sources is a misapprehension. That's a mistake. You feed yourself beliefs and facts. Kobe didn't think no one thought Kobe was Kobe until Kobe thought he was Kobe. And that's what he went around and proved.

Oh, that's false.

No.

Kobe knew, you're saying that's false. You're saying that's false.

I know it's false. You know why I know it's false? 'Cause I remember being a kid. I still broke all my son. I remember going to high school. I went to school with a kid who went to elementary school and then went to high school. He left sophomore year moved to Philly. He actually went to lower American high school with Kobe.

Yep.

Right?

I don't know if it was AOL. At some point, I got the class I go in, we were standing high school, I want to say senior year.

Yeah.

I tell him about it, not senior year. I think junior year. I tell him about a dude who made all American in my high school. Right?

Yeah.

He made McDonald's.

Yeah.

He made the McDonald's team. So I'm telling him, yo bro, this kid is going to the NBA.

Yeah.

For sure. He tells me, yeah, I don't care what, whatever the fuck you telling me, there's this kid named Kobe Bryant and he's for sure going to the NBA. And I'm like, nah, check on my man. He's like, yo bro, I don't care about your man. He's ready to number one. And blah, blah, blah, blah. He's going crazy. So I can imagine he's been Kobe.

Says five of them, my brother. Like I don't see somebody who knew he was going to be--

But that's what I'm telling you. He knew. He knew.

And so did his pops knew.

That's what, I'm not saying that what my point is is internally for someone to express themselves. Like Kobe Bryant.

But for Kobe to get to Kobe, somebody had to encourage that.

I'm not denying that. But that's him setting the pattern. Here's the truth of everything. Everyone is you pushed out. That's literally how it works. Everyone is you pushed out. Everyone out there is a reflection of you for everyone. You don't get weird about it. Go, you're me, you're me. But that's literally how this works. At the deepest level, everyone is a reflection of you. Now when you understand that--

So how do you acquire enemies if everybody's--

You do not. You do not. That's precisely-- - You don't have enemies?

Oh my gosh. You let the people who fuck your shit up, who you would classically call an enemy. You become very grateful for them for showing you where you dare fucking your shit up so you can immediately rectify that. You imagine them as not your enemy. You want the deal with them ever again. You're done. Keep it moving. - No, this is why--

I know.

This is why you mean me and your life.

I know. You think it's keeping--

'Cause we just come from two different walks of life. - I am completely aware.

You cannot be serious, bro.

I am. - Where you come from. If you want to walk around and say you have no enemies, that is very cool.

It's not that--

That doesn't mean-- - Where I come from, there's murder, bro.

That doesn't mean-- - There's people that kill other people and that becomes an enemy, not just for you and that just for--

I'm not-- - And it's forever. It's not like you just an enemy for a week.

I'm not. - For a year.

No, you are an enemy for life.

I'm not. - And my son, you are an enemy to him too and it's-- You know, you get what I'm saying.

I'm not implying. I mean, you're describing like the Middle East and the Natcha, right?

I don't know about the Middle East.

I'm just trying to-- - I've never been there.

I'm saying in your life, when I'm trying to explain-- I'm just trying to explain this really quickly. The way that ends, the way that ends for real and the way it only ever ends is--

But you're talking about ending, right?

I'm not saying ending, I'm talking about simply--

I said, do you want enemies? Then you want enemies then. - There's a reflection of you.

Correct, including your enemies. Including-- - No concept of ending.

That's incorrect. That's an aspect of you that is very much trying to teach you something about you in a very effective way. Here we go. So somebody who kills my family member is trying to teach me something?

Probably more than anyone else's taught you in your life. Absolutely. - That's not being optimistic. I don't know what that is.

It's not about being optimistic. First of all, it's on, if you really understand this stuff, the chances of that happening and the company that you keep and the things that happen in your life will start to tamp down objectively, but you have to believe that that's how it works for our second of all. I'm not suggesting-- - I'm not suggesting everybody actually-- - I'm not suggesting. Listen to me, listen to me. - You're crazy, isn't it?

I'm just saying, I'm not suggesting you go and shake your enemy's hand, someone who's murdered your family. That is not what I'm suggesting.

You know, I'm not saying anybody murdered my family. What I'm saying is you will in life--

Have people who have enemies.

Okay.

Whether you acknowledge to have enemies, or maybe you don't, or you will have people. I recognize people who have... Basically, I recognize people who have disagreements with you. I understand that. But people who have disagreements with you, people who have beef with you, people who have problems with you.

It's a agreement, so I don't think it's an enemy. I'm telling myself-- - Okay.

I'm saying someone who's--

Who directly wants your demise, bro. There's people who are envious. There's people who are pure evil. There are people who they wake up and they don't make people for no reason. I understand what I'm trying to tell you. The best way to deal with someone like that is in your imagination. Just go, I know you shake your head, but listen, what I'm trying to tell you is this.

I acknowledge that they are enemies.

Okay. There are people who have fucked me over in my life. Objectively, right? Objectively. They fucked with my-- - Those people told you things. I get that part.

I understand. No, they-- - One of the people that are your enemies, no.

Okay, this-- - One of the people that haven't done nothing to you, they just wake up every day and pray that you fucking--

Who also-- - I understand.

I'm sure there are people who do that.

And smiling your face, though.

Okay, those are people that if you understand that if you just imagine those people, if you're aware of them being happy, you can do it. That's it. - You can do what?

You basically, you're done. You don't have to worry about that shit anymore. You've imagined a version of them that you don't have to worry about.

This guy, you just-- - I'm just saying, try it, just give it a shot. You free yourself from that. Otherwise, you're bound to them.

Can I ask a question? You telling me from your mind frame and how you think that you can't go to Haiti and get voodoo put on you?

If you believe in voodoo--

No, no, no. If I don't believe in voodoo, I'm talking about you don't believe in voodoo, right?

I believe in you.

I absolutely believe in voodoo.

Oh, you do believe in voodoo.

Of course I believe in voodoo.

Oh, I, so, 'cause I was about to say like-- All right, so somebody who-- All right, look, look, perfect example. See, it's wild for us, you know? Where I come from, right?

Right.

I live in a Spanish name, I'm from the Bronx, okay? So, in a Spanish culture, they have a thing called Bruheria, all right? Bruheria is basically voodoo. It's like the study of like, you know, black magic and stuff like that. I think it's Afrocentric in some way, 'cause Cubans, Africans, Haitians--

Absolutely.

comes from all all those places. But anyway, and those people, they actually have traditions like people, I don't know too much about it, I know my other friends do, but they have like certain parties and rituals that you have to do to get, to get like in, and there's like--

I understand.

No, there's all kind of requirements too, it's money involved, it's big money, and it's all kind of shit, you gotta send the dude with like pigeons.

I understand, it's like a spell, it's a ritualistic spell, I understand it.

Now, those people, not the average person, but the people that have rank in that stuff are clean to be people that can do things to other people.

Correct.

You understand?

Yes, your willingness to believe that allows you to be affected by that.

Wait a minute.

Okay.

All I'm saying is, it may not be deaf, but what they can do and what I've seen done is just like bad things.

Yes, what people would refer to as black magic or--

No, but I'm talking about actually like a fact.

I understand, I'm not disregarding that.

You know what I'm saying?

I very much understand what you're talking about.

And who's to say that that person believes it?

Okay.

The person could not believe it.

Okay, but the person--

I don't--

Let me try to explain how this works, as best I can in this reality. First of all, this reality is basically like a dream, so your willingness to believe anything on a subconscious level impacts this reality. However, outside of that, if it kind of works like this, if my imagination is Kobe Bryant level and you're Muggsy Bogues, I'm dunking on you for the rest of your days, no matter what. Do you understand, like no matter what, for the rest of your days, I'm just schooling you. Even though you're amazing, I don't know what I'm trying to point out, but you should have said it every verse.

No, just listen.

Because without the imagination, I understand-- - I understand--

I understand what I'm trying to--

I'm Muggsy Bogues.

I understand, you're David Goliath, but just listen to me, just pause on that, what I'm trying to explain, how this genuinely works. When you get to a level where you understand that your imagination quite literally creates your reality, or the creator sustainer of your entire reality, if someone else does not understand that to that degree, you can subjectively implant thoughts into their mind. One of which might be that I have the power, and my belief as a Bruha or a fucking Voodoo person is I can now do magic spells that impact reality, and that's absolutely true. That's how it works. People who are hooksters, who are bullshit, if they can convince someone else, that it's possible that they have powers, they have powers. - I have a question.

Yeah.

If I imagine that I can tell the future, and I imagine that, and I wholeheartedly convince myself that I can tell the future, am I a fortune seller?

Yeah, I mean, if you are accurately--

So you're saying yes, you can actually do that. Somebody can actually-- - I'm telling you--

And achieve a fortune seller.

Absolutely.

God bless you.

Well, why don't you try it for yourself instead of having to worry about other people? Why don't you pre-select an event using the technique I gave you and see if you walk into that in your life? Why don't you see if that happens?

One, right? There is no timetable on that.

What do you mean?

So--

Sure you can.

I can dedicate, I can do it exactly. I can follow what you're telling me to the T, right?

Are you going to?

I will try it.

Okay.

But I can't see, my thing is being consistent with things.

You don't have to be consistent, you have to do it one time.

Nah, not one time, 'cause I didn't one time.

Okay, the mirror?

No, I don't know about the mirror.

The mirror you can do one time. The other thing takes more than--

I don't know what to do.

The mirror is you imagine yourself from your own perspective in your imagination. There's a mirror in front of you. You see your own reflection, and in the mirror, anything you want, you give yourself in the mirror. More important than the physical thing, it's the feeling of you having either the thing, the relationship, the quality. Furthermore, if you want something from someone else, you don't put the person in the mirror with you, you give yourself the quality you want from someone else. So if you want a partner, or there's someone in your life who's maybe an enemy, you give yourself the feeling of being at peace and harmony, right?

And you just consistently give yourself this in the mirror. In my experience, and most of my listeners' experiences, like a lot of them, since I started talking about this, 12 hours to three days, regardless of what you put in that mirror, will start to show up in your life. If not explicitly right there, you'll see the path start to unfold in a way where you basically don't have to do shit. Try it, try it before you just try it before you disprove it. Of course, everyone is doing this literally all the time. Of course you do. Everyone does this. Actually, just to give, just to, he's not talking about a physical mirror, bro.

Two things. I'm talking about both.

Just know that.

I'm talking about two things.

I'm actually talking about many things.

He's telling yourself who you are.

Right, but not even about, but wait a minute guys, guys is not just about telling yourself. He's actually telling you about the feeling is the most important.

That's right.

It's about not just...

But that's what you're doing when you're doing that.

Not just your, I want this water. It's, damn, this water tastes amazing. You get what I'm saying?

And you say that the taste when they hold back and themselves eat it.

Exactly.

But not just eating.

Remember I said Tinkerbell before?

I'm talking about the taste. The taste, no, this food tastes good. Not that damn, I'm eating. No, no, no. That is chicken taste like that.

No, but what's, that's a great thing.

That's what they're envisioning it in the action. So now they also get the feeling, you know what I'm saying?

They're insulin.

There's a picture of you envisioning the water. Now you drink the water in the water. You know what I'm saying?

Damn, food, and then it's like the water's good.

I can go another couple of miles. Let's say he was lost, you know what I mean?

No, yeah, yeah, just the feeling has to be there.

Knowing that you could get through it. Then once you get the action and the feeling, you've pretty much done it without doing it. You know what I'm saying? I can't stop this.

So I've been reading--

I can't get that part. I get all that part. I'm just saying, for it to be, you wasn't here, but what I'm saying is there was something that has to be attached to that. You heard?

There's not.

That has to be somewhere where.

There's not.

You can't just do whatever you want.

You can. - There's no consequences and then thank you good.

You are. You wouldn't use it like that when you get this. You understand there would be no reason to do anything objectionable or bad. You wouldn't have to. If you think the only way for you to get money is by doing something that hurts someone else. No, I'm just saying-- - I wouldn't do that.

I'm not saying you. I'm saying in general, if one thought that, let's say I'm a murderer and I think, or I'm a burglar.

Can you at least? Can you at least?

Admit to yourself that along the way of your success, they might be people that you might hurt.

Of course.

That are gonna be unsuccessful on your journey.

And what I'm trying to tell you, and what I'm listening, listen, listen, listen, listen. If you can imagine those people happy, fulfilled and having everything they want, you're free. You're not affected by that.

I hear you not being affected, but what if it is not-- - Everyone.

If it is reality, look, what I'm trying to tell you--

Like I said, your reality doesn't have to be my reality. I keep trying to tell you that.

But--

As much as you want me to be successful, if I'm unsuccessful?

It's 'cause you believe you're unsuccessful.

Just because you think I'm successful, and your mind doesn't mean that I'm successful.

No, you were the only operative mechanism. I can give you a little boost. Yeah, that's the whole thing.

But even worse, though, bro, there's plenty of people who think they think--

Right when they say you're wrong.

Yeah, but all right. - Correct.

I get all about what I'm saying is this, like every person that thinks they are boss, there's hooks that are not a boss. And they can act like a boss, they can feel like a boss, but you're not a boss.

No, that's not the same thing.

Is that even a boss?

You know, there's people that think they're the best rapper.

No, but let's talk about like--

And you can think you're the best rapper, you can frat like the best rapper, but you're not--

You're not understanding, you're not understanding. It is not a whimsical, conscious feeling of being like, "Yo, I'm the best rapper." People who really are the best rappers, those people feel like the best rappers, those other people think they feel like the best rapper, there's a huge distinction. It's a very, little baby when he's on the wave, I'm on the wave, you know you're on the wave, that's fucking knowing and feeling that you cannot do that until you feel it. I'm telling you for a personal experience.

My brother, for every little baby that's famous, there might be a million little people--

Here's where you're getting tripped up.

Here's where you're getting tripped up. Let me try to explain something to you. Here's where you're getting tripped up.

That's all those people in Maryland.

Just stop for a second.

They used to rap.

Just stop, just stop, just stop, just stop.

What was that guy? Give him the guy's name.

I don't remember, just stop.

What did you do? What was the guy's name?

Just stop.

Please tell me the guy's name.

I don't remember.

Nah, you didn't remember.

Just listen, just listen.

Oh, yo.

Yeah, listen to me.

Listen, listen, listen to me, listen to me.

All right, I got you, listen to me.

But trash, I'm pretty, okay, listen to me, listen to me, please. If you consistently start thinking about other people before you have your shit stabilized, you're gonna forever fuck your shit up.

That's wrong.

That is, if there's one thing, if you listen--

No, when it compares to me is what I'm saying.

Stop thinking about other people.

You brought them up every single instance. You're talking about other people who can't do this. For every successful person, there's someone who can't be successful.

I'm saying prove it to yourself first, and then come to the conclusion about it.

I can't have trouble, but what I'm trying to tell you, my brother is the feeling alone, the imagination alone can't just be that way. I'm telling you this, who I imagine being successful everywhere.

But there-- - All right, how about, I have somebody, no names, right? And actually, he's a cousin of mine, his name.

Were you given the technique and see what happens?

No, I'm more introducing, I'm gonna introduce you to him.

Okay.

And I'm pretty sure he's into a lot of this stuff, but his name is Mr. Success Driven. That is actual social media.

Okay.

All he does every day is get off the media, and he's like one of those inspirational core tech dudes, and he doesn't turn it off. In other words, every encounter with him, it's a--

It's always that.

It's like a fucking retreat.

It's like how I use it.

A bunch of them turn it off like a retreat, it can start off with the--

It's not just contained to the podcast, I get it.

But once, you know, once the board is rolling, it's inspiration in all this nonsense, all right, cool. He's nameless, Mr. Success Driven. He dresses like Success. He feels like Success. He goes to the gym. He works out. He does everything that a successful person does, okay? But who determines Success?

He does.

Is your definition Success, my definition Success? So because you think you're successful?

No, no, but be specific.

Am I supposed to think you're successful?

Be specific. I can tell you what my definition of Success is.

Right, but once what I'm trying to see, what I'm trying to see is, is your definition Successful? The definition of Successful? Because they're--

No, no, of course not.

Are successful.

Successful is a feeling. Successful is a feeling. It's a feeling. It's a feeling. That's what you have to understand.

All right, let me ask a question, my brother.

If you cook that arrest on one, then you're the main chef at arrest on one. Do you feel successful?

Depending on who you are, maybe. What do you mean?

But why one of you feel successful? If you're the main chef--

And maybe you want to be a fucking football player.

Is it a link?

Who knows?

So let's say that football player.

Maybe you want to give a shit about your career, you just want to be in a happy relationship and your wife is fucking other people. Who knows? And you're not happy with that. Who knows?

Okay, so it's not--

There's any number of things that could be going on.

So that you can be successful without--

Success is a feeling. Success is a feeling. You can attribute it and you can basically transpose it onto different aspects.

Everybody's successful then.

Absolutely. But what I would say is that most people, if they're not feeling happy, fulfilled, balanced, clear--

That doesn't make you not successful.

I didn't say it didn't successful. Okay, what is successful means to you?

I would just say--

What is successful means to you?

Successful.

Me?

Me?

Yeah.

I think success is generational wealth.

Okay.

I think that would be determined.

So that--

Undeniably success.

So that is attainable for you if you believe it is.

That is absolutely 100% correct. I believe that. But what I'm saying is there's a line drawn.

What's the line?

No, no, I'm clearly drawn a line. Generational wealth is successful. Anything short to that in my eyes, I would deem unsecessable.

So there you go.

That's just my point of view.

But mine in, someone else's mine not be--

The point of view could be way to stand to be way lower. Somebody standing could be--

Could have nothing to do with wealth.

As long as I make up $10,000.

But it could have nothing to do with wealth.

A year.

It could also have nothing to do with wealth.

It could also have nothing to do with wealth.

Right, but this is what I'm saying. It's success is emotional in the task to make a girlfriend, right, or marriage as I say. If you wanted to get married early, and you got married early at 17, and you deem that successful, right?

Let me ask you one thing, just to pause that for a second. When you achieve generational wealth, do you think you won't want anything else in life?

No, that's not, that's not.

Okay, so you'll have a new definition of success after you achieve it?

No. - No, no, no, no.

That's not a new definition.

But wouldn't you want something else?

My definition of success, like I said, would be to create that for generations to come, right? If I can do that--

Let's say you did it. Let's say you did it.

Then I'm successful, but--

I can be successful at other things, but my level of success doesn't change because I reached that goal.

Great.

Doesn't get any higher or anything.

Great.

So what I'm saying is that's 100% attainable if you use these ideas.

I get it, but all I'm saying that, the point is what I'm saying is, you determine your own success, right?

Absolutely.

So, I may be your sister, what do you--

Not successful.

Exide.

So what's the matter with that?

That that's everything, what do you mean?

Who cares what up? You really care what other people think?

My brother, it ain't about that.

Okay.

It's about that, but like if the masses all agree that you're unsuccessful.

But this-- - Those are unsuccessful.

This ebbs and flows, we've seen this. We have so many examples of this. How many people thought Donald Trump was unsuccessful 15 years ago in his bankrupt for the second time?

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

No, I'm just saying this ebbs and flows.

Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Success, external success.

How could you be unsuccessful? What do you mean?

So hold up, so if you attain success and you lose it, you're unsuccessful now?

That's not what I'm saying, but--

I thought unsuccessful was latitude and success.

But if success--

Is personal, if no one else can control your level of what deems you a success, you can always be in control of your level of success. That's what I'm trying to say.

I don't know, you can, but what I'm saying--

If that's what I'm trying to--

It is, but what I'm saying is there's a line though. There's clearly a line of what you deem, what the masses-- - Why are you talking about the masses?

I'm telling you, every single time you get off track, you start thinking about other people.

Why are you keep saying, because you cannot live in this world without considering other people?

Of course, you can imagine for yourself.

Start with yourself. Put on your oxygen mask first, is what I'm saying.

Hold, what I'm saying is--

Prove this to yourself first.

Hold, for every action is a reaction to you.

Correct?

Correct?

Prove it to yourself, prove it to yourself.

Correct, correct, correct.

Everything has a reaction to it, right? If something happens--

But you know, we're not on the same page when you say that, because when I say yes, what I'm saying is this whole world out here doesn't actually exist. Internally, your reactions, that's where the reactions and actions happen.

All right, all right, all right.

Okay, so we're on the same page there.

All right, we on the same page, okay.

Oh, all I'm saying is, if I 100% believe and have the feeling that I am successful.

Correct.

Okay.

Attached to a specific goal.

That's so specific goal. And I think, and I really feel successful, right? I get that feeling, I get it. I get what you're saying. But if I keep trying to say, I keep having to involve other people because you can't--

Think about yourself.

Bro, that's right now.

All right, so as much as I want something, I cannot be delusional to think that I'm gonna fight my next thing--

Stop thinking, stop.

Something like that. - Thinking about other people, just until you can prove to me.

But you are saying other people, though.

Lou, you know me, you know me very well. You know me very well. Wouldn't you say of many people you've met, I'm definitely in the upper tier of thinking about other people and relationally. I'm not saying disregard. I'm saying for right now where you are, every time you start to think about other people and use them as examples, you're making the misapprehension that they actually exist out there and we have to take, start with yourself. Prove to yourself that your life independence of other people is completely dictated by you first and foremost. They'll factor into it, of course, they'll have to.

All I'm saying is, no, you can't be selfish. As long as you're okay with knowing that and acknowledging that you might be affected and hurting somebody that's right. And if you're okay with that, then fuck it. Just, all right, perfect example of Braun James. Now, Braun James, no, every Christmas I'm not gonna be home. As much as he might wanna be home, I can't be home. He's gonna live with that every day. If something was to ever happen on Christmas and he missed it. But that's the price you pay to be the Braun James.

That's right.

Okay, cool, you get that, I get that. That directly affects the kids.

But you know what else you need.

And these after these directly affects your wife, directly affects your kids. You understand, but that's the price you live with.

But guess what, guess what, guess what? So live.

He also knows, and probably this is how his family also knows this, and this is why they're okay with it. When he retires and doesn't play anymore on Christmas, he's gonna be with his family the rest of his life.

Now check this out, that's in that case.

Okay.

Now what about the cases where that causes you to lose those people? What about the cases that your selfishness caused you to lose?

I understand.

Now you're successful, now you reach your goal, right? But now you're son will fuck with you.

Okay.

Or now your mom will know fuck with you.

Can you listen to me, can you listen to me for a second?

Yeah, what I'm saying?

Can you listen to me, can you listen to me?

Is this something taking care of me?

Can you listen to me?

If you could live with yourself, it'll be like convince yourself in your mind that you know what? I got to, but you're not getting it.

You don't have to yourself for it.

That's exactly right, that's exactly right.

No, no, no, you can't, you can't, I just told you can be 100% selfish, you can't. You got, you're not understanding what I'm saying.

No, we are understanding what I'm saying.

No, we're understanding.

You can't just know though, you have to live with the fact that there might be a chance.

Oh.

No.

You're not getting it.

No, we're getting it.

I'm not saying that there's nothing that can't be done. I'm just telling you, right? To be not eat to the fact that you're not hurting somebody else, right? Or to be not eat to the fact that it's always gonna be okay, like in a Braun James situation. That's not true, bro.

But listen, there's not fairytale endings.

No.

That doesn't know how that works.

No.

Okay, what you're imagining.

Lou, Lou.

Lou.

You're gonna imagine, and really convince yourself that I'm gonna have a fairytale ending.

Lou.

And be Kobe Bryant, my brother.

Lou, you're not listening to other people.

Well, if they Kobe imagined he was gonna live old, bro, come on, man.

He said he wanted to die.

Ah, now you hear what this is, bro. You gotta discuss me, bro. Listen, he meant this is what we call--

Listen, just listen, just listen, just listen to this. Please.

Now we quote in--

You are--

Change from agreed.

What you're, what you may be missing is you're revealing your world perspective, which is creating your world when you're speaking. Yes.

No hope.

You other people in this room.

Oh, I agree.

Just wait, let me talk. Let me talk.

I agree that being selfish is something that must be done.

I'm not.

I agree. I'm doing it as we speak, my brother.

You're not understanding what I'm saying, and you think other people are--

I want to show that. I won't say that to that.

If you understand you need to, if your main priority is to have your son or someone fuck with you, and you feel like because of what you're doing now that impacts that, if you really understood that your imagination creates reality, you can imagine having an amazing relationship with your son, maybe it's not right at this moment because of things you need to do, but if it's in the future, and that's a priority for you, it will absolutely happen. There's no line here. This is what I'm trying to tell you.

Oh, hold, hold.

Yes.

This is what you don't understand.

All right.

This is not a script that is written, brother.

You write the script.

What I'm saying is, what I'm saying is--

You write the script.

All right, all right. Perfect example. Perfect example, brother. If I'm somebody who has to work to provide for my family.

As many do.

Like a LeBron James though.

Or anyone.

No, not just anyone 'cause at nine to five, you're home, at least for dinner.

Don't use nine to five. No one in this room is working at nine to five. So that's not an appropriate example.

No, but none of us in the room are average person either. We wouldn't come, now one person here is the average household.

Stop. But what I'm trying to point out is, stop trying to use other people as--

I just said nine to five. That's all I said. You tell me that to you.

But you don't work at nine to five.

All right.

This doesn't apply. You're trying to--

And I'm also not a LeBron James neither.

I understand. I would recommend--

I'm also gonna be home on Christmas.

Right.

All right then. But LeBron James is not talking about the people like that.

Why is there this tendency to start focusing on other people rather than how this would apply to your life?

Because those people exist in the world, right?

But why?

And what do you mean, why?

Examine why you are more focused on other people in the world before you prove this to yourself.

No, I'm not about proving it to yourself.

You haven't proven it to yourself.

I agree that this works.

No, but you haven't proven it to yourself. That's different than I agree.

I have to prove it to myself.

You most certainly do.

No.

You'll never believe it.

It makes sense.

You'll never believe it.

I do believe it.

Someone.

No, no, no, no. What I'm saying is--

You want me to believe 100%.

You will never believe 100% based on what someone else is saying. I know you just personally well enough, but no one will. This is something that has to be directly experienced.

I get it.

Right?

You're getting off the top.

Am I?

What about being selfish?

Self--

What about being selfish?

Being selfish, you didn't ask me my stance on being selfish. I have found in my life that has worked out best for me, even creating suffering or pain in instances where I pursued things that are related to me doing what I need to do. There's something called being selfishly selfless. It requires a view that you understand sometimes you will create pain and suffering for other people and yourself at times because ultimately you're doing something that is best for you and if you're the best version of you for real, which would mean you're unconditionally kind, generous, caring, giving, just a good person.

That's the best version of everyone without a doubt. That means you are then the best version for everyone else in your life. And if everyone does that, that's quite literally how this planet gets better. So it's most important for you to focus on yourself and be the best version of yourself even if it creates temporary suffering, even if it creates things that are not pleasant objectively, it's the most important thing. This is why I tell people to do what they love, follow their desires.

Is that gender bias or is that?

Gender bias.

I'm asking a question. Is that for both?

That's for every single person who's born.

So if my baby mother wants to live her best life.

Correct.

Right now and be the most selfish person in the world.

Is that her best life? Is that your best life?

Hold up.

Doubtful.

I don't know what's her best life and what I'm saying is.

What do you think she wants?

My best life.

What do you think she wants?

I know what's my best life, right?

Right.

And my best life would be if I wanted to be selfish, would not involve anybody but me. All my money would be me, all my time would be me. I wouldn't care about nothing else but me.

And you would examine that when that happened over time, you would examine that.

It was to do that, right? If I want to do that, according to you, not only is it needed, but it's necessary in order to create the better version of myself, right? That's what you're saying?

Correct.

Okay, now, if I did do that, all I'm saying is, I'm also acknowledging that while I'm doing that, I'm directly impacting other people in a negative way, right?

Okay.

And I'm okay with that.

Is that your beauty?

I'm okay with that in the world. I will have to be okay with that if I'm gonna commit 100% on being selfish, right?

Correct.

Now, I also have to acknowledge that there's a possibility that even if I imagine a fritel ending that I'm gonna be selfish and I'm gonna get my life together, I'm gonna be my best version of me, and eventually everything's gonna work so far and everybody's gonna be okay.

Correct.

If something tragic was to happen

Correct.

Before that fritel ended.

Correct.

Then what, my brother?

Okay, then there is no time I wish, no, something tragic happened now.

Right, it makes it impossible for that fritel.

There you go.

Now what, my brother, now what, now?

Why would you begin?

Why would you begin from the place of asking that question rather than--

Kobe Bryant just died, that's why.

I understand.

So because Kobe Bryant just died, right? It gives me the feeling that anything could happen at any given time or no matter what.

Or that also has a function in everyone's reality and it teaches us something about life that maybe doesn't have to do with that death can find you at any time. Also what I've seen truthfully, what the biggest thing I've taken away from Kobe's death is I've seen all throughout sports media, all throughout social media is everyone from like the toughest person I know to just like someone who had a casual passing interest in basketball get very emotionally worked up over this. In like a very significant way, that's a beautiful thing to me. That's someone who touched so many people's lives that it literally shifted the consciousness of this planet, everyone.

When he went down to the helicopter was thinking about him, even the people who wouldn't be thinking about him when they knew his daughter was in there, then they all started thinking about this one specific thing. That's a very powerful teacher. So to assume that Kobe maybe had these thoughts of, did he know when planning was gonna die in a helicopter crash with his daughter? Absolutely not, but on some deep, deep level, it serves as some, Kobe had tremendous energy. His daughter had tremendous energy. It served as a catalyst to show people something about life. So the point of view is an opinion.

We agree on that, right? Everything is everyone's perspective on it. It's not a fact, right? The only thing that are facts are things that you choose to believe. Okay, and you choose to believe what you're saying, so that means it's a fact. For me? Well, so facts, so Trump is the speaker fact. To him? So you is not a fact, right? Correct. Most, a lot of the times. So which one is correct? That's a really great question. Now you're, now you're dealing with reality. This is how reality works. But that's, I thought I was always dealing with, I don't wanna deal with nothing else. Okay, you understand reality?

If I am dealing with not reality, please correct me. Okay, I'm, I'm trying to give you the perspective that your consciousness literally proceeds this world. It's before this world. My brother, we already agreed, I'm the same. Okay. But that's reality. I'm only talking to you on what you just said. Okay. Which is, my fact is what I believe. In your imagination. Okay, my imagination. If I believe it to be factual, it's factual. Correct. Okay, it's a me though, correct. Okay, so now if I'm saying something that you disagree and you think it is not factual, I'm asking you, who is incorrect and who is correct?

Or is there is no incorrect or correct? That's what you're saying. That's what I'm saying. God bless you. What I am saying is that someone who says they don't believe in gravity and jumps off a building, if they fall and hit the ground, they believed in gravity, whether they thought they did or didn't. So it doesn't have to do what they wanted. But they were wrong, though, that's what it says. No, because you're not understanding. Their conscious mind does not dictate what you believe in. You're correct, correct. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Other way it says gravity, by other than jumping. No one thing is something and why even think it's gonna be like, no, no, no, no.

What do you mean? If you know that there is no gravity, why it says that there is no gravity? Correct, exactly correct. You don't need to test it. I know that gravity exists because everyone believes gravity exists. I'm not gonna test and validate this by saying, I don't believe in gravity, I'm gonna jump off. I acknowledge gravity exists. Every time we use it, we see it. But there wasn't even a word to that. What do you mean there wasn't a word to that? There wasn't a gravity, somebody made that up. No, Isaac Newton measured the resistance with velocity. Talk to me. Relative to how, well, of sorts.

So you're telling me before Newton, everybody didn't realize that there was fucking gravity. There were forces around them that didn't understand. That's what it was, it just didn't have a name for it. I'm not saying the name. Like what a name, what a name, what a name, what? Exactly, we didn't discover, you didn't make the water, water existed already, right? So in my conception of the world where imagination is the only creative force, anyone who experiences water is quite literally creating that water. Wow. That's how this world works. That's how everything works. All of the time, you can prove it to yourself rather than fighting it intellectually.

But I think that's not all you know about it. No, I wanna have a conversation. I'm not saying you're arguing. All I'm saying is my brother. What do you mean, daddy? I just ask you, who's... Would you be to test this is the question? Would you be, that's the real question. Do people really, it's funny you mentioned this, someone I was speaking to today said they wanted to take acid in the desert and they, and I said that sounds amazing and someone they said that too was like, that sounds crazy. And I was like, that sounds amazing. Yo man, I'm telling you man, I don't, can I ask you a question? I don't wanna make it a racial thing, but what race was this guy?

Wasn't a guy. Oh, what race was this woman? I apologize. Turkish, Turkish. Yeah. Nice. I don't wanna, I don't wanna, I don't wanna, I don't wanna. It's not like, but he said falls under white. And just for a piece sake, the race of the other person who said there was a crazy, horrible, like... Wait. Okay, wow. So... What do you do up there? I don't know, I don't know. I'm hopefully one turkey. Turkey. Turkey. I just know, you know what? Again, I'm from the Bronx and I've never came across anybody who ever said that they wanna take acid. Or ever came across everybody who ever said they wanna be in the Bronx.

Well, you've come across me. I'm not in the Bronx though, is what I'm saying. Not in the Bronx, but you've been outside of the Bronx. Yeah, and pretty much I stay away from anybody who wants to be on drugs like that. Not, not, you're here now. I'm not. See, I'm a hypocrite. Yeah, I know, he says a liar. Oh, fuck. He says a straight up liar. I wanna be around those people, I'm such a liar. Of course. Of course, why do you actually get in here? I actually get in here. Yeah. But yeah, inquire please. Listen, I think, I think we're, where this is gonna be the first of many conversations relates to this.

But I think it's important, what I do wanna say is this, I do think it's really important that we talk about this shit for people who come from places where it's not smooth, right? It's not a measure of just changing your mind and then everything walks into place. But there are objective physical barriers and circumstances that are difficult. That's why I like having these conversations. But I genuinely know for a fact that as you or anyone else who engages with these things and tests them, they'll see what's up, that's it. And it's crazy, it makes no sense. Just to be clear, logically, analytically, what you love, which is great.

That's why we get in good discussions. That shit is useless. It doesn't work. Your feelings and your emotions and belief based on that level, that's actually what always shapes your life. But you just gotta prove it to yourself. So here, I end with questions though. What's your favorite color? My favorite color has to be red and black. Check out the most. What's your favorite, Chicago? That's a good one, Jordan. What's your favorite number? My favorite number has always been one. Point guard. Oh, no shit, that's not a very common one on this. What's your favorite animal? My favorite animal, that's a good one.

I'm not really big on animals. Let's think of the first one. Oh. I like, you know, if I'm to look at, I like all animals. One animal. One animal for what to be? Any animal, any animal that comes to mind. As a pet? Any animal, any animal. I like aquariums, that helps. So fish? You know, whales, fish. Whales, fish. OK, now we'll go with whales. All right, last question. Staying real, last question. Last question. What's a practical tip that's helped you in your life that you could share with people listening? A practical tip. Could be anything. That's a good one. A practical tip. [MUSIC PLAYING] That on black.

That on black. [MUSIC PLAYING] That was vodka. [MUSIC PLAYING] Thanks for listening to that episode. I'm trying to keep it together on this fucking daycap. I'm also smoking wheat. I mean, this is not like-- probably if the goal is to get less high smoking wheat is probably not what to do when you're on the day capsule, cannabis oil. Anyway, this is fun. Patreon, readings, stuff. It's a rare treat. Lou's the best. Go connect with him on Instagram. Is he publicly? Lou, give me your whatever. He'll be around. You get it. You get what we're doing here, guys. It's fucking fun. All right, that's an outro.

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