Ep. 27 - Duncan Trussell

This is Supernatural! This is Supernatural! This is Supernatural! This is Supernatural! Welcome to episode 26 of Synchronicity! That, of course, was Prince. One of my favorite Prince songs, Controversy. You know, Prince died last week. That's a terrible, horrible loss for the music community and just like good people community. The stories are starting to come out with, you know, the type of guy that Prince was and, you know, what he meant to so many people both anonymously and just through his clear acts of generosity and his just worldview. So a tremendous loss. You know, I was watching an interview with Stevie Wonder, you know, truly one of someone said like bubble wrap that guy. Stevie Wonder was talking about, you know, how great of a musician Prince was. And so it was also another interview with Van Jones and, but they were also highlighting how great of a person he was and how he really cared about the world at large and that he felt the music was just a particular emanation or aspect of what his overall message was, which was that, you know, remember about soul, remember about the world and that we're connected and that we're all the same people, which is in the beginning of the episode here, that's why I love that controversy song so much. It's like, and Prince was also just a cool motherfucker, right? Like he somehow seamlessly fused sex and God via the medium of music, which is pretty, that's pretty awesome.

So yeah, you know, if you, if you haven't had an opportunity in your life to check out some of our princess stuff and his music, now is an amazing opportunity to do it. It's, it's sad that he's gone, but he was, I saw someone else describe him as like a celestial musician. And that's, that's kind of what he was, he was someone who, I mean, he just could express so many, I've been posting videos on my Facebook all, all week long, just because it's a time, you know, when someone passes away, when they die, that's when people all collectively kind of remember them together, which is a pretty incredible thing. If you think about, that's what's going on. That's another reason I love Twitter so much, right?

Because you see that happening in real time, collectively unifying around this one person who clearly had an impact on so many people's lives, transcended cultural backgrounds, raced everything. It just, he was fucking cool. So Prince was awesome. All right. So my ode to Prince will end there for now. This week, I have, my guest is Duncan Trussell, right? Duncan, everyone loves Duncan. He's like the king of podcasting for a lot of people, and myself included. Amazing. The way he, in the same way, ready for this Prince Duncan comparison. So Prince, in the same way Prince could express, you know, sexuality and God, write God stuff via the form of music, Duncan, bear with me on this analogy, Duncan is able through the medium of podcasting, but he's able to fuse comedy and consciousness discussions. And I don't really know of too many people better than him who have done that, who can simultaneously be hilarious and insightful in this particular way. So yeah, Duncan is basically the Prince of podcasting. Fucking amazing. That's, I'll probably call that this, this episode, but Duncan's not gonna die anytime soon as far as I know. Duncan, please don't. But yeah, so this episode was recorded on the tour bus for his You Are God tour. He had just done a show with Mikey Campman and Johnny Pemberton, who I got to meet and hung out with Cora. Cora Keegan, if you don't know Duncan's girlfriend, amazingly nice, awesome, hilarious person in her own, right? We were hanging out on the bus afterwards. And I had planned to podcast with Duncan, because a lot of you have asked, you know, when Duncan coming on, can't wait for Duncan to come on. Because a lot of you have found out about mine pod network through Duncan and maybe found this podcast or some other shows on mine pod network. FYI, there's going to be a rather large announcement related to mine pod network.

If you're part of the synchronicity community, you'll know what I'm talking about already. And if you want to join that community, just go to the website, sync podcast, syncpodcast.com and sign up. But there's going to be a pretty big announcement coming that is going to be somewhat of a seismic shift in what's going on related to mine pod network. So yeah, you'll hear more about that soon for another episode, for another time. But I sat down with Duncan after this performance he did, which was amazing. Really interesting. The DC crowd was like, I gotta say, they were a little weird. And I felt bad. And I was like apologizing to Mikey and Johnny and Duncan for how weird the crowd was for a place with legalized weed. Very uptight sometimes. But we're on the tour bus and, you know, it's surreal because this is such a nice, it's like a really nice tour bus. If you've ever been on a shitty tour bus, then you know how shitty they can be where it's not even a tour bus. If it's a shitty traveling thing, it's just like you driving around or in a van. But it's really nice. And Squarespace has put together this amazing, you know, travel around the country tour for them. And it's wonderful.

And I was really happy that I got a chance to sit down with Duncan in person. Again, I've seen him a few times over the past few years. I first met Duncan at a rhombos retreat in 2013. And he actually spawned the idea for MindPod Network. We were smoking a joint in the parking lot. And he was like, hey, you know, like, what if there's a podcast network with all these people? And like, he's like, you could, you could, you could do that. And I was like, yeah, but that seems like a lot of work. And it was a lot of work. But he basically kind of came up with the idea for it. And Duncan, that first retreat, we hung out a bunch him, my wife and I. And we got to know each other just incredibly nice. Everything that you think Duncan is incredibly genuine. You know, just he's he's a great dude. And I know probably he doesn't, you know, love like me. I love when people say nice things, but I also like, no, please don't. And but he's such a good guy. And he deserves all of the love and attention he gets because he's just he's a very genuine person. So it was a real treat to be able to sit down with him and discuss the things we discussed in this episode, which I'm not really going to give you an overview of. I listened to it in part just now. And it's, it's, we condense a lot of stuff into basically what amounts to like a 40 minute podcast. We talk about just a ton of stuff. I remember I had smoked right before this, some lambs bread. And I was pretty, pretty high. But so I don't remember in the moment so much exactly, but it was just flowing back and forth. And I think we touched upon, I mean, I know we do, we touched upon some really important topics here, especially about how to navigate kind of some of the psychedelic experiences that we all go through on a daily basis, whether we recognize it or not. And how to train, you know, integrate some kind of these transcendental experiences into something practical, which is I guess if this show has a theme, that's what I'm trying to do. I ask every guess, you know, at the end of each episode for some practical tips that have helped them in the hopes that maybe that'll help me or to help a listener or someone who's going to come in contact with it.

I think that that's a real value that, you know, this show could potentially provide in podcast in general. People talking in general, I like that. I like when people share things that have helped them because it helps you. That's pretty great. So anything else, that's it. That's it for this week. I'm about to have a baby. I don't know when any day now literally is what the doctors say. So that's going to be fucking nuts. And I'm trying to get at least the view of these podcasts in the can and ready to go. So there's no delay when there's another human being I'm in charge of. Hello, son, if you're listening to this in the future. So yeah, without further ado, here is the video. Thank you.

Thank you for doing this, too. My pleasure. I have a lot. I have two things that have come out of me doing my podcast, which is called Synchronicity. And one of the main things is a lot of my listeners are always like, Duncan, I'm waiting for the document episode. So yeah, it's really fun. That's awesome. I'm happy to be able to do this right after your tour or right after one of your performances in DC. The you are God tour. That's right. Can we start there? Yes. How's the tour been going? And also how? What's it been like? Well, it's been it's very psychedelic. I've never done a bus tour before. So it's really interesting. Like usually when I've done tours, I'm either driving myself from point A to point B or flying from point A to point B. Right. So there's a lot that goes into that. You know, if you're driving, it's like a three or four hour drive. And then you've got to get to the hotel and you need to have time to take a shower and get ready for the night to eat, you know, and then you're on stage and then you're waking up early to catch a flight or get in a car.

And so it's really intense and it's really time consuming. And the difference is with this, just the reason we're able to do this right now is because after the show, the bus is right next to the venue. Right. So you get in the bus. There's satellite TV. It's insanely decadent. Yeah. No, this is like an incredibly nice tour bus. It's all because of Squarespace. These are my patrons. This is amazing. For some for some insane reason, they like let me they sponsor this tour. How did this how did this come about? Well, you know, they've sponsored my show for a while. Yeah. And so then my agent contacted them and said, do you want to sponsor a tour and then talk to them about it? And they were like, yeah, we'll sponsor the tour. And so then suddenly, thanks to these sweeties, I get to like experience being on a tour bus. So what, you know, okay, cosmically, what do you what does this feel like to have something like this happen? Because it's obviously even you're saying it's like a psychedelic experience moving from place to place, being on the same thing, stopping in different places. Yeah. Like Mikey, who's a part of the tour was saying, is it Mikey Mikey? Yeah, he was saying Cameron. Cameron. Yeah, he was saying it's surreal to just be like moving because even when you're driving, like you're driving. Yeah. And then you're staying somewhere. But it's just like this moving context. So like, what does it feel like cosmically and you know what I'm you know what I'm driving at? Like what is this kind of like experientially for you? It seems absurd. Yeah. I mean, it seems like the most absurd thing. It seems like I feel incredibly I feel beyond fortunate. Like it feels like a malfunction to me in the sense that well, yeah, because it's like I'm not saying that it shouldn't be happening or it should be happening.

But if I feel so insanely lucky that I get to because like, you know, you're you're we met at the Romdas retreat. Yeah. And so we we met kind of outside of comedy and we met but but you know, I've been doing comedy for a great many years. Yeah. And you know, I there there was a period in my life where I was like living off of like $15 a week. Jesus. There were times like that where I would have to like I lived in Echo Park and I would look at my bank account and like I considered my withdrawal limit part of my bank account. So if I had like $10, then I would think I have $510 because I can withdraw 500 bucks. So broke, dead broke. And and so for me to like somehow be able to be traveling around in a tour bus feels so insane. And so so so like it's so beyond right and like a nice tour bus too. Yeah. So I feel very I don't mean to sound cliche or whatever and forgive me for saying it because God, it's such a cliche fucking thing to say. But I feel blessed like I feel like man, if this isn't grace, I don't know what it is. How could I get to experience this? I certainly don't feel as though I deserve it. And it's the fact that I just get to feel what this is like to me is just really a lot of good luck. I fucking love it. I have a hack or I hate the word hack, but I do this thing where I feel like overwhelmed and incredibly grateful and like crazy shit like this happens in your life. Like, Oh my God, like this is insane. Like, this is like a dream like thing, especially when you're, you know, using the juxtaposition of having absolutely nothing basically having a note. So I get that. My hack is when I get overwhelmed by things like that, I just try to offer it to something. So in my case, because I do have a guru at this point, named Crowley Baba, and I want to talk about that with you a little bit too, because I was what I would call like a reluctant guru, like I have the same distasteful, like when I heard the stories of people were having his feet, it was like, Oh, yeah, this is weird. Like, I don't I'll never get that. Sure. I had other experiences that winded up where now I have the requisite amount of faith that like I get it, but I offer it to whatever that being is for anyone. It's like a hack when you offer that back, whether it's Valu Gita, sparrow var, whatever it is, it creates this like cycle. Yeah, you can kind of like spiral up. And I think one of the big things that I talk about on this podcast, that's a great way to put it. Yeah, right. One of the things I talk about though is really using synchronicity and using the interplay of what's going on internally and having that affect external reality. Okay. And not in the way that like I'm going to pick up this recorder now, and I did that with my mind and I thought of it, but really internally creating change, which affects external reality. Yes. Have you noticed this at all in your life? Like, because you've you've gone through these different periods of like consciousness, right? Yes, lows and highs. Yes. Everyone like me too. What have you noticed like the relationship between what's going on internally and externally, if anything? Okay, so this one thing. So I love the existentialist perspective, which is that existence proceeds essence, right? So the idea is that we come into the universe as a nothing. Sure. And then we pick up all these habits, which are the mechanisms that become the gears and the machine that make up our ego, right? Right. So, and all of them are just learned habituations that surround this kind of completely empty spot, which is talked about in the Bhagavagita. Sure. In the Bhagavagita, they say it cannot be wet by water. It cannot be burnt by fire. It cannot be withered by the wind. It did not come into existence, nor will it ever cease to be. So this is like a description of the space that has made some philosophers declare that the that life is absurd. Right. And that everything that we do is ultimately meaningless. Right. That's the very Nietzschean. This is all horrible. Right. So we're sort of always forced into this kind of fraudulent activity called being human or human being. Right.

Yeah. So, so then there's the other perspective, right, which is that actually, once you really understand that this emptiness or undefinable, intangible, the watchers, it's often called, the thing that the fountainhead or the godhead or whatever you want to call it. Once you understand that this thing is what you actually are, then you start, you get freed up. Right. And so you, number one, you immediately stop being a victim because you recognize that, oh, most of the things that I'm experiencing are a direct result of decisions that I've made about how I am. Right. And but then the other thing that happens is from that, you realize that you aren't a prisoner of your habituations and so now you're free. So the internal world, what is it? Well, in other words, if I can make a change in my internal world, if I will, my external world change, so the moment you realize that there is no difference between the internal world and the external world, then of course, any shift that you make on the way that you decide to interact with whatever you consider not you will create an immediate and drastic transformation and everything instantaneously, but that is funny, the outside inside thing. So like, so, you know, where people are like, well, I have an inside and I have an outside, like a wall, there's a difference, there's some, there's a cut being made between that. I mean, that's I think would say most people operate like that, including me, like most of like, of course, everyone for the most, I don't know, I haven't met anyone in person who doesn't have that yet. I've met very genuine, pure, excellent human beings. And but most of them even still have that barrier of somethingness there outside the inside, right, which always astounds me when I hear people talk about Maharaji or someone like that, where they talk about that not being there. Yeah, that blows my mind because I haven't encountered that in person. I feel like in ethereal or less tangible realms, I've come across that before, I've experienced that, but not like a person could be a lot of hooey pooey. It could be.

You know, the, the, the funny thing about the guru, yeah, for me right now, yes, is that the, the people, I know people who say they've seen Bigfoot, and I know people who say they've seen a guru, right? But I have never seen a Bigfoot or a guru. So it's really great because so, so we got to get to the truth. Yes. Right. Yes. So the truth is that you and I have not met a guru in the flesh, not in the flesh. No. So and the truth is that we have had experiences. Yes. That make us believe that we have contacted the disembodied essence. Yes. Of a guru called name Crowley Bob. Absolutely. Yeah. Right. So we've had, so we're in this, we are in such a more preposterous predicament. So much more. Yes. Because at least Raghu had this in front of this fucking face. Right. Right. It can be like, no, I have pictures with him. Right. Whereas you and I have to be like, well, I was sitting on the floor of my kitchen. Right. Completely blasted on edible marijuana. When suddenly I felt as though I was in the presence of a thing. Right. They completely loved me and thought that my predicament was really quite funny. And because that, my contact with name Crowley Bob has always been one in which he, in my ridiculous, subjective experience of this thing, has always been one where he, because I'm someone who on my podcast, have talked about him so much. Yes, yes, yes. And one thing that he seems to think is really funny is that I don't 100% believe in it. Right. And yet I've been like, I've been broadcasting this thing.

So to him, that is a, that's hilarious. So, and for me, it's, I guess, in my own way, it's pretty funny. But again, we have to get to the truth. Right. Yes. Yes. So it's like, what is name Crowley Bob? Yes. What is the guru? That's right. Right. So, and you know, Ramana Maharshi, what he said, right? God equals guru, equals self. He was that he's the mystic who has like the silver hair. He's sometimes by like a lot of animals. Yes, I know that's pretty nice. He's someone who's, he's the one described as the corpse that the universe spoke through. So his famous experience was he became enlightened this way. He laid down one day and purely and fundamentally and fully imagined what it was like to die. Right. And so then he imagined it so fully that he's like, Oh, I get it. Like there's no difference. And he transcended and became enlightened and, you know, learn the keys to the universe and is known as a universal saint. His, and again, I'm using a framework in Eastern map. Right. These were some of the tools in our end. But he was of the opinion that God equals guru, equals self. So there is no fundamental difference, which is the truth.

That's good behind this. Right. When you run the you are God tour. Right. Yeah. And this is a true statement. Right. It's not tongue in cheek. It's not being made. So it's a very true state. I love the way you ended it too with the pair, because I've been doing this thing where I imagined not a dissimilar thing. But what if this is death? What if we have it flipped backwards? Like what if we are imagining this is living, but this is really we just died somewhere else. And this is where we went to as that training after life. Right. This is the afterlife. Like there's we can't nobly improve. You know what? I think it's more like the before life. Right.

There you go. You know, because because the if you have if you haven't, if you haven't. Well, I mean, the the problem is like, well, what does it mean to live? And so to say it's a before and after is to even pretend that you even know what that means to be alive. Is it so you're saying it's a heartbeat? You know, is it a physiologically or is it you know, but again, all of this stuff is all it's all very what we're doing right now. It's a lot of at least what I'm doing. And forgive me, you guys. A lot of spiritual I'm like doing these little backflips for your audience. Like, yeah, yeah, I love it. But it's like, but really, it's just it's a it's a kind of act. So it's like a show. Right. So I'm doing like, Oh, and this and what about this? It's it's valuable. But it goes that here's the thing.

It goes. So the idea is what I like to do in these moments is to follow the thing doing the backflips backwards so that I start getting and it's it's an exercise that you should do. I recommend printing. Where are the words coming from? Where is the decision making coming from? Where is like in every single moment, the threading of the necklace, where you're in every single moment, deciding this is who I am. This is the universe I live in. This is the language I speak. This is my idea of how a conversation happens. So in every single moment, you're making those instantaneous and incredible movements. Yes. And they're all synchronizing. And they're all happening completely without your decision to do anything. So that place that it's coming from.

What is that place? Where is it coming from? What is that place? What is that? And you can. So I keep going back into that spot. What do you think it is? Well, I mean, I think that must be named curly Baba. Right. Not that I am named curly Baba, but what I mean is like somewhere when I so there's a rhombus talks about people getting involved in addictive patterns, whether it's sex or drugs or alcohol, whatever. Sure. Because it gives you the feeling of coming home is what he says. Right. And I love that. And like when I can think of the time, one time I had a surgery and I got on a bunch of Vicodin opiates and times that I haven't had a surgery and taken opiates.

And which are probably definitely more times than I've had it. Sure. I think, yeah. Sure. So, but I can remember like in the midst of that kind of warm once in the midst of that warm opiate high, I kind of for a second, it felt like there was a like a hobbit style tokenized fireplace in my chest that my being was warming itself on like a hearth, you know. And so that place I think is where name curly Baba lives, not the opiate state, but I'm saying we like the opiates because it brings us to that feeling of like I'm warming myself on the fires of love. That's what it is. Yeah. That is I think ultimately from the best I can deduce when I reverse engineer it through experiences I've had in external reality on psychedelics, not on psychedelics just going through life because I just feel like truthfully dunking at this point. I feel like the culture and society we live in is fundamentally psychedelic experiences that have been I saw like my first peek into this world was 15 years ago when I was taking a good deal of hallucinogens, but not consistently like in a row, but like I was taking them every month in college when my younger years. I'm going to get peeks into this, but the culture hadn't seemed like it was fully psychedelic. The internet was still pretty early on. It only been around about a decade. Yes.

Now, how old are you? I'm 30. I'll be 33 in July. Okay. So I grew up when there was no internet, and I remember like being a kid and like a dial tone and like you had to go meet somewhere somewhere and there were some text messages or cell phones. So yeah, now that doesn't exist. And again, in what you were talking about tonight, you're talking about technology a lot and how this is now really could just be fundamentally classified as a different species. And on an evolutionary curve of life, absolutely. So I, what I think is going on is we're moving to ever increasing the realities that we're shifting into. The transition point that I think we're in the midst of right now is creating a breakdown and dissolution much like what happens on psychedelics in objective reality without school. That's great. I really think this is what's happening.

And I think people have predicted this long before I ever had this notion of people who I'm just finding out about now, like Rudolph Steiner, who I'm seeing has his hands. I didn't know. And you know, Rudolph Steiner? No, excuse the motherfucking genius. Of course, I've heard of him. Of course, me too. And so like, I had someone on the podcast who had founded these centers, and he put me onto it. Like, I always heard his name. I was like, Oh, kind of like a weird, interesting, yeah, mystic guy. Motherfucker's a gene. Have you heard of Waldorf schools? Yes. He founded those. Okay. Have you heard of biodynamic farming? Yes. He founded that. Like, in addition to all of this, so all these people have existed and saints and mystics.

And I think they've tapped in to this thing that's going on. And I think people have pulled back in whatever culture they're in, whether that's going to be manifested as a God. And I think that is slowly, not that slowly, actually, but that is what's percolating and manifesting in reality, ever more so. And so I think people, yeah, right. Because okay, so I like what you're what you're talking about is, so certain people become the spinner rats through which this stuff comes spraying out of the nothingness that's like, I think anyone personally, everyone has that potential to distill that crystallization.

It's called printheads. Exactly. Right. But some of us, true, it's clogged up or we maybe we don't have enough ink or something, whatever that whatever you want to follow that. Sure. Really. But but the the the the the the the the the um the difference, right? So Steiner, I don't know anything about him, but let's take someone like I don't know Karl Marx. Sure. So like Karl Marx, his philosophy has transformed the planet. Absolutely. But imagine what would have happened if he could have disseminated his information instantaneously through the internet. Right. So that's what you're talking about, which is like, it's like the same people are emerging, but now they're using the internet to connect and to transfer this information. And so that's why we're experiencing what all the new age dude, so I mostly talked about, which is this is the so I wonder, see, I think it's a simultaneous parallel thing happening.

I don't necessarily view technology, and I'm not claiming this to be right at all, but I don't necessarily view it as the vehicle for why this stuff is happening. I think it's just something that is born out that is on a more immaterial level, and it's the manifestation in reality of something that's being the clear objective scientifically based model that everyone will accept for disseminating information. Do you know Tejhard Deshardin? So this is someone else who I am at the level where you're probably at with Steiner. I've heard his name all around me. People I really respect who I think are great consciousness explorers. His name keeps popping out from me everywhere. I don't know.

You're going to love him. Okay. So he so his idea is actually kind of reminds me of McKenna, but his idea is that so everything is being drawn into God, and he calls God the Omega point. Sure. So the transcendental thing at the end of time. That's it. McKenna's thing. That's it. Same thing. Right. I'm sure McKenna was influenced by him to some degree. Must have been, but so the idea is God is drawing us into God's self, and as we get closer and closer to this Omega point, then what we're seeing is ever increasing levels of complexity and harmony. And that the Omega point is absolute harmony and absolute complexity. So ultimate to the billionth degree complexity, meeting to the billionth degree harmony, and that's the heart of God. Right. And that's what we're being drawn into. So technology and industrialization and all of the stuff that is so astounding to us is actually just the form of God emerging through the medium of time. Right. I think that's what it is. So the question for me is like these are all great thought experiments, but practically how do we have that makes sense in our lives? So I heard you talk about it in your show, and it was the Dalai Lama's pieces of advice, real practical, beneficial, can raise them be kinder, be more patient, be more loving. And I think every school that is valid and every path that is valid has those principles kind of at its core. And there may be techniques that differ and there may be things that resonate with people differently. But that's pretty much it, which goes back to what I think, what I'm hoping this podcast communicates in any way is that it starts on an individual.

It's great to want to change the world in every way. And that can be your noble cause. But if you start with yourself, that fundamentally will have a greater impact on the world. And however you choose to extend that out, truly, that really creates like that's what happened. You must experience this all the time through your podcast, because you're reaching a lot of people who are resonating with you in very real ways. And so these connections, genuine connections are made. So you get like, that's what that's what's so interesting to me about where we are with podcasts and media in general, like the two way communications are just there. They exist now. That is fucking mind blowing. But you know, the I think one thing that you're bringing up, which I love, is like, listen, sure, the fucking Omega point, the singularity, the, whatever the second coming of Jesus, yeah, whatever the the matraya, whatever the whatever your fantasy is, right, whatever your fantasy is, really consider that it just may be that you're using this fantasy, because you don't want to be oh, yeah, well, the Virgin Mary and give birth to the Christ in your heart. And so what you're doing is you're creating all of these ridiculous, you know, I don't know, end time scenarios or whatever. And they're so fun. And they're so cool to think about. But in all of that, you're forgetting, you're forgetting that if you are the mother of the world, which you are, because you subjectively, everything that you're experiencing is 100% being processed through the filter of your neurology. Yes. So if you're the mother of the world, then that means that you get to decide in any given moment, whether you want to give birth to Christ or Buddha or not. Right. And you get to decide whether you want to like be the midwife and the thing giving birth at the same time. That's it. Singularity who cares. It doesn't really matter. You may be the thing itself. This is one thing I love Jack Cornfield for as he says, we want you, we don't want you to be a Buddhist. We want you to be the Buddha. Right. Well, that's the that because that's what every, if you cut a crawl, cut down most of these spiritual paths and traditions, that's what everyone is saying.

They're saying there's no difference between me and you. That's that's the the the person who's going to say this is the only way and I have the answers and I'm the only one who does and you can only hope to know these. That's not someone you should listen to. That's that's a charlatan. But most of them say like the I love the thing you're saying about mothers because the Buddha says treat the world with a motherly love and the reason isn't just like, hey, like that's a nice way to be because mothers are nice. It's because carmically what Buddhists surmise is everyone has been everyone's mother at one point through the turn of through the cycles of life.

Everyone has been everyone's mother. So he actually means like do it that like everyone is your kid and that's how you're supposed to be thinking about about everything. Isn't that so heavy? So like look like I mean it sounds absolutely insane but one version of the Messiah that I've heard is that the next Messiah will be the satsang. That's what it is. So that the next Messiah is not going to be one person. It's all of us. A proliferation. So that means that if that is true then we all on the individual level have to give birth to that Christ energy in our own lives because until each of us is that midwife then the satsang won't fully have given birth to this matraya and so that's what it is.

So that means that you have to have the courage to midwife the Christ living in your heart. Yeah it's hard and the birth pings that you're feeling are terrifying as birth pings must be. You're you know man. I just went through these classes my wife likes is about to give birth. See it is crazy. It's crazy and it's scary. But it's such a great metaphor. It's perfectly I mean listen the podcast is called synchronicity because these things tend to come about like I don't think it's a coincidence that this metaphor is emerged right before we're about I'm about to have a kid. I think that there's there's poignancy there and it has meaning and I don't think I'm just describing meaning to a situation. I think that's truthfully what you're describing is 100% accurate.

The more I've worked around spiritual communities and organizations people are still people but the communities that can surround are greater than the sum of the individual parts. And the more we can and it's hard like it's hard like I can tell you everyone still has an ego no matter what your aspirations whatever your things are everyone still has an ego and those things rub in so many different ways and I've had it happen with people I'm close to I respect I love it admire I've had it happen everyone with their family I'm sure but if you can transcend that and push through those things in a way using the burning metaphor again and really let that I hate it to sound hokey but like let the love proliferate in your heart yes you can actually really create fucking amazing things in the world. Dude I you know I believe in synchronicity and I believe that the universe speaks to all of us in every single moment and I think that it's very funny because we create all these boundaries because you don't always be in class you don't want to always be in class right so um you know there's times when now I'm learning I'm sitting in a class or wherever you think you're getting the seminar or whatever the thing is you're in now I'm learning but then if you're in line at a Starbucks or I'm starting you start hearing a conversation where someone's telling you the exact device you need in your life you ignore it because you're like well I'm not in the right place that I would be getting that about my life right because you want the universe to be behaving in the way that that you think the universe should behave you know so the the the the the teaching right the teaching is happening right now and it's happening in any given moment and the universe comes to you in ways you can't expect like I was just visiting my nephew and my brother was like you know why don't you read to him my brother went upstairs and we sat down and he went to pick a book out and the book he picked out was like Jesus in the manger was the book right and he was got this big grin on his face and he's like read this amazing and so I'm like oh Maharaji yeah you look at you my nephew now you are not letting me out of this right you're wanting me to be in even what are you doing that situation it transcends it's like I feel like the sliver of what Rhonda's must have felt when he realized that Maharaji was talking about his mom and saying some shit he never like it must his mind was spinning at first I feel like you must I at least in my life I've had periods where everything is a synchronicity for extended periods of time yeah and when I say everything I don't mean like gaps here is one here is one here is one I mean unimpeded yeah for months at a time that alone was enough of an experience in the world to validate that I think everything is a giant synchronicity and it's up for us to kind of clear the signal and the transmitter to get this stuff yes and I think so that okay so I know because we're gonna make this one short and we'll do this again obviously I'm sure helps that person will definitely well and I want to make sure Alexis doesn't murder me you're being late but I end every podcast with asking a guest for some practical tips that help them in their life this doesn't have to be like I speak to people in this this isn't exclusive I have the tips I have the tips what are the tips so if you want to change your life yeah many of us do yes here's what you do I got this off her at it I've tried it totally works here's what you do empty your sock drawer put it in a plastic bag get rid of all your socks all of them and then go to like a real like a nice store I like the American apparel socks but there's you pick go to a nice place don't buy cheap socks and buy two weeks worth of socks so 14 pairs of socks and then put them in your sock drawer and you will have one of the greatest two weeks of your life because every day you'll put on these wonderful fresh new socks and it's the greatest thing ever that's my advice to you for the spiritual stuff keep listening to this podcast but my advice is gig that's where I that really is where I'm at I get great talk can I tell you so I just revolutionized my sock game because I was using shitty socks from this is not a joke seriously not a joke I I started buying Miami dolphin socks which is my team I have an unhealthy sports relationship with and I've been replacing all of my socks with dolphin socks and it really has made my life better it's not even a fucking joke like it makes my life better having nice socks that I care about and you might find that your team does better if they do I mean that I mean but yeah it is that is a great that is try it just try it's a little bit right or ridiculous but trust me I love it I love it thank you thank you for having me on let me walk away oh oh oh let me walk away underneath the cheese just down let me walk away let me walk away just down let me walk away underneath the cheese just down just down one of my favorite episodes I really like this episode it was fun again another in-person one love talking to people in person it's really great thank you again for listening to the very end past the music that what you just heard there was actually something some ideas I put together for a girl group in New York called Francis Rose Sarah and Michelle I haven't worked with them in shit maybe like four or five years but they sent me something a while ago and I found it on my hard drive and I kind of like this so that's what that was and thank you again to everyone who writes in and says nice things about the music and encourages me to finish and put these things out there I really that's that's been maybe my favorite part of this whole kind of podcast experiment thing that's going on here as always I got some really no has some really cool shows coming up and I am going to get those done before this baby is born because I don't know what my life is going to be like once the baby is born I know it's going to be different but who knows all I've been saying is it sounds like a psychedelic the same way everyone used to describe psychedelics to me like you know you're going to do it's going to change your life it's going to be different nothing's going to be the same this is a lot of things people would say before you do psychedelics which is true but maybe don't say it like that always but that's what it sounds like the baby is going to be like just a total total game changer for lack of a better statement or word there so yeah thank you as always for listening I'm really happy you choose to listen to this every week like I said there's going to be a pretty big announcement related to mind pod network hopefully in the next week or two I'll have like some pretty serious details but I think it's going to be stuff you if you're listening to this podcast I can almost guarantee you're going to love it so cool I'll see you next week