Creating A New Reality with Jennifer Sodini
Excellent person extraordinaire, Jennifer Sodini, makes her triumphant return to Synchronicity!
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(upbeat music) This is synchronicity. This is synchronicity. This is synchronicity. This is synchronicity. This is synchronicity. This is synchronicity. This is synchronicity. This is synchronicity. (upbeat music) Welcome to synchronicity. My guest this week is Jen Soudini. You may remember Jen from a previous episode. She is the founder of Evolve and Ascend and Phenomenalisms. Phenomenalisms? Nope. Phenomenalisms. And it's just my dear friend, a lovely person. She recently came up here to Red Hook and got a little tour of Ryan Beck and Red Hook and Met Eli. And we had a great time and had dinner with Alexis afterwards.
It was just a very pleasant day, I must say. And we got time to do this podcast. And stay tuned for the end of this episode in the outro where I'm going to be giving a few details about a new venture. I say current because it is ongoing already. Between myself, Michael Phillip from Third Eye Drops and Jen from this podcast, we're going to be starting something and I'll tell you the name at the end of the episode. And it's going to be related to cryptocurrency. Speaking of cryptocurrency, thank you for the deluge, the massive amount of emails that I've received about last week's episode and cryptocurrency in general ranging from how do I get started?
I have a little bit. How do I get into exchanges? What are you talking about? I've heard this before. Thank you. All of these different, all of these different things. So I think I got like honestly 30 emails since last week, which is definitely a record for emails related to one episode in that time span. We have some other popular ones, but they come in at different times as people find them. Anyway, the point is is there's a few things I'm going to be doing related to cryptocurrency that hopefully will answer your questions and any other things you may want to say or bring up related to this.
So one thing is I'm in discussions to get a cryptocurrency podcast from someone who I think you're really going to enjoy who's been deeply immersed in the scene for some time. And it's just generally a very smart and cool person. So stay tuned for that. The other thing is I'll probably try to do another mini episode. So for the people who don't want to hear about this, you don't have to listen to me talk about it constantly. My wife Alexis does not get that luxury, but you can. So I'll do a mini episode dedicated to that. And also I'm going to try to come up with a quick onboarding guide for just getting really basic started up and like finding out what this stuff is and then actually potentially investing and trading and doing all those other types of fun things.
Okay. That's it. Moving on from cryptocurrency. Jen, what is there to say? You will hear it all in this episode. She has gotten back from some amazing places. I think the last time we spoke was in May. She's gone all over the world and back again. She's got all in the inner worlds and back again. And I got to say, I mean, Alexis and I were even speaking about it. She's just, she seems very light these days, just very at ease. And it's really just a fun thing to be around. And I, it's great. She's just a wonderful person. And I think you're going to love this episode specifically. We talk about cryptocurrency.
We talk about darkness and negative things and what those mean and what their function might be. We do some tarot stuff. I don't even really remember most of the conversation at this point. And I haven't gone back and listened, but I can tell you. When I publish this, I will go back and listen because I just remember having a really good time with Jen. Go check out our stuff. Evolve in ascend.com also on Facebook. Like I said, stay tuned for a project that we're going to be launching along with our friend Michael Philip at the end of this episode in the outro. You will hear it then. Let's just get to the episode, right?
Let's, let's cut down the me talking more of hearing from Jen and me talking. There is a common theme of this podcast. It's going to be me talking. Okay. Without further ado, here is Jen Sodimi. Thanks for coming on. Yeah, thanks for having me. We've been having a lot of fun conversations. For the past couple of hours, but now it gets to do it on a podcast, which is nice. Perfect. So many places to start. Yeah. Where will we begin? I kind of want to, I want to pick up somewhere you, did you go, you went back to Ridmeo, right? Yes. I was there for two weeks in August. Let's pick up there because we didn't, because the last podcast we did, you had just gotten back the first time.
First time. Yeah. So let's pick up there. So yeah, I was at Ridmeo for two weeks in August. And basically, you know, the first week that I was there was pretty mellow. A lot of like just grounding and time for myself. And then the second week was really when things picked up. So a common theme that's kind of been happening was the last few, I was the experiences that I've had is that it's been taking me to like pretty dark places. And it's been a lot of work. So in the two weeks that I was there, I did six ceremonies. And the, each ceremony was like crazy. Did it get darker and darker? Kind of.
Yeah. The energy was really different. So I didn't even realize this. And I showed like somebody that studies esoteric things and wants to find the root of everything. Um, I actually had found this out recently from a shaman of mine that I did stamp Pedro with. But he was saying, you know, the reason why ayahuasca is referred to as the mother is beyond like the maternal energy. But the maternal energy is the energy that's within the womb, which is darkness. And it's the void from which everything comes forth. So it was a lot of plunging deep into the depths of that. And, um, you know, it was a lot.
Well, so like what I know from my personal experiences where. Let me ask you this. When you're plunging into darkness, which is it can be a bewildering experience. Like that's probably, at least when I think of it, the main hallmark is that like, you just don't know what the fuck is going on, which can be liberating. But it's also very scary. Cause things you can have the thought. And I've spoken about this before where like you recognize that your thoughts are creating reality. And when you reflect on that thought, you can get pretty tripped out pretty easily. And when you're on ayahuasca or any psychedelic and that starts to cascade, it can really start to get weird.
Was this something like when you were doing these ceremonies that would stay with you after you were like doing the ceremonies? Or were you able to kind of like integrate it and process it afterwards? I felt like it was a lot of, um, the integration surprisingly was pretty, pretty easy. I felt like, okay, I get it. You know, like it's almost like getting a reprimanding and then all of a sudden you're like, all right, I get the lesson. Nice. I feel good today now that I have new clarity. So like what were some of the themes? What were some of the dark things? So I got all this stuff on magic, right?
So the first ceremony was about the difference between white magic and black magic and how magic really is in its essence is about inspiring creativity and feeling creation, but the way magic is used in like media and in this dark, whatever darkness that surrounds a lot of our world is its use as a form of control. And true magic is never about control. It's about creativity. So I kept seeing all these examples of like how, you know, basically like media plays to fear and, um, you know, just puts in these systems of control to keep people feeling like ironically what we were just talking about with the devil card in tarot, right?
So the devil card in tarot was most feared and misunderstood card that exists. And it's basically the inversion of the lovers card and you see the female on the male standing underneath, you know, the goat headed evil one with these chains around their neck, but upon like further examination, right? The chains are actually very loose around them and they choose to carry that around their neck and it's really a metaphor for like allowing fear to control you when you can walk away from it at any time. Right. So the question is, are you able to do that effortlessly now? I feel. Yeah. I feel like the past like.
You seem like just later in general, even after that, when we were talking last time you were, you had obviously gone through a lot from that first trip there, but there does seem to be like a greater ease. It does, it feels a lot more like the way of the peaceful warrior, you know, where I feel like 2012 was this great initiation and everything that's been unfolding since then has been higher levels of initiation and understanding how to navigate this world and learning how to navigate the world is learning how to navigate light and dark. Yes. I feel like the darkness and plunging kind of deep into it has brought more light into my life.
So like very aware. That's the process, at least what Jung referred to as individuation. You would plunge deep down into the self, which was dark and the abyss on the unconscious and these psychic waters where you kind of wait and can lose yourself and all these crazy things can happen. But deep down there is this kind of like pearl, this inner self of wisdom that you actually have to go through that stuff to get to. Which for us, especially in Western cultures is totally unpalatable. Like we don't want suffering. We don't want hard lessons. We don't want to, you know, we want essentially instant gratification, you know, all of the time.
And as much as some of us may hear that and be like, no, we don't. I've learned better. Like, I don't think it's hard. It's kind of like a cultural swing. So what have you noticed? You've also done, you went to Egypt. What haven't you done since you last spoke? Really? Is it really crazy? How long ago? It wasn't that long ago. No, from May. So basically, from when I went to psychedelic science. Right. That was end of April. Right. Psychedelic science was this like jumping point for so much synchronicity and wildness. So from psychedelic science, it was Rismia twice. Egypt's. It's been a wild ride.
What are you picking up from like all these worldly travels? What are their themes that you are picking? Like, what's going on? Like, what are you? Yeah. I think the underlying theme of it all is finding the lessons in nature and applying them to human nature. So, you know, Rismia being this catalyst for working with plant medicine and using nature as a tool for transformation, then being in Egypt. And I learned so much on that trip. It was the most single most life transforming experience I've ever had. And you've just been doing a ton of ayahuasca too, so. Yeah. So coming back from like this ayahuasca experience, then going to Egypt, it was so crazy.
So it's like I've been fascinated with Egypt for a while and especially since I don't know if I think I talked to you about this, about the dream I had with the Feather Heart. Yes. Yes. So that started before I started ayahuasca. It's been this like thread that's been woven through. That started, do you think? 2012. Okay. You want to hear something interesting? Yeah. I'm trying to remember the exact date I got. It was a little before 2012, but I have a cat. Oh, it's my mom. She's at my mom's now. Her name is Isis, which most people now, it's just like, why would you name your cat? It's like, it wasn't a terrorist group.
Okay. It was an Egyptian goddess. I love the goddess. Yeah. And the Osiris story too. So I also had a very weird, probably from like 2007 or eight until 12 is when I had Isis, I was weirdly into Egyptian stuff. It was very much like, I had, I remember like an early, early, like one of the first iPhones, they had an app, like the Egyptian God, God's app. And you could just scroll through and read about them. And I would do that kind of obsessively. There does seem to be a connection between the Egyptian stuff of yesteryear and kind of what is going on now. So what, what about the trip with so? So it's interesting that you mentioned that Isis and Osiris story because that was going to be one of the first things that was going to mention to you.
I was always captivated by that story, right? And an Egyptian philosophy, gods and goddesses are referred to as netters, right? This is a netter. I come to find out that netter actually means force of nature. So the gods and goddesses are all like similar to Hindu tradition where these avatars that are forces of nature, forces of the godhead. Right. So on the trip, one of the people I went up meeting was this man named Yusuf Aoyon. And his father was on the show Pyramid Code that's on Netflix. And he, his father was the founder of the Kemetology School, which is this long lineage of secret keepers.
And for 400 years, they kind of guarded the secrets of the pyramids. His father, his story is unreal. And Yusuf's awesome. He's like this like badass, like, yeah, like he's carrying on the lineage, but he's like, you don't want to mess with him. So we're talking he's, he's the one who had kind of like imparted the netter nature wisdom. And I had asked him, like, I have a question. I'm like, why, why was Osiris always portrayed as green? Right. I'm like, in all the mythology, I heard that the reason that he's green and none of the other netters are portrayed as green is because in the myth, he's ripped into all these pieces.
Isis puts them back together. Right. And he's basically like a zombie, you know? So he's the reanimated force. He said, no, that's not it. The myth changed over the years. He goes, the reason why Osiris was portrayed as green is because he was the closest to nature. That makes a lot of sense. Yeah. This is the force of nature. And he was the closest to that. So I mean, that that was a completely unexpected, like mind blown. This makes perfect sense. Amazing. So what do you think we could also explore more themes related to the Egypt stuff and just kind of where you've been the past few six months or however long it seems like so long and long.
That's the other thing. It's just time. We were talking about this before our affair. It just feels like whatever you want to call it, the imaginal realm, the mythic realm, it feels like it's just bleeding into our reality, not that it always hasn't been present. And I know this, one of the beautiful things about having this podcast be called Synchronicity is a lot of people write into me with synchronicity behavior or occurrences. And it's amazing. I've recently had people because I did an episode where I talked about where my life was a giant synchronicity for three months. I've had several people write and be like, Oh, my God.
Like that literally happened to me. I can't believe you just said that, which personally, I don't find that I didn't think I was so unique that I was the only person who was having it happen to, but it does feel like there's this kind of wave that is happening right now and has been happening, which is vague and nebulous, but it feels like there's some practical importance to it as well. I mean, what's been your kind of take on this? Yeah. It really feels like in the past, like there was this kind of finding a way to make time work for you as like you're working against it. It feels like it's more effortless flow.
Like time is working with you. Yeah. It's more symbiotic relationship. I know. And synchronicity has been off the charts. Like I was actually just thinking of this and you're like put two and two together, but how this all started was in April when I had restarted my podcast. You had just gotten in touch. One of the first people I interviewed that I actually liked interviewing was Jerry Brown, author of the psychedelic Gospels. Jerry told me to go to maps. I go to maps before I go to maps. I meet Brandy via telephone from Rythmia. Brandy and I, fast friends, go to Rythmia and then boom, boom, and everything has been this thread of psychedelic reality and synchronicity and how it all can expand our worldview.
I wonder. I've been in this space in my life for at least really 15 years. It's going on 15 years. And it now seems like a lot of people are joining me. And I don't want this to sound in any way egotistical or anything. It's just straddling two worlds figuratively and conceptually is different than experientially. I've tethered myself to this reality in the past through various different things. Now, though, it seems like the tether is still there, but there's this more acceptance of merging into this other aspect of reality, which I think does, again, it seems like it is -- we were talking about it before.
It seems like people are getting what they're asking for. Whether that's conscious or unconscious. One could argue, like, who asks for Donald Trump? Well, I think we all ask for him. This is something that kind of seems like a necessary thing, and I don't mean it's a good thing. But in the same way that maybe in a real world examples, an illness in the family that someone overcomes, that can often strengthen a family, can make them more grateful for each other and the things around them. So it's weird, though. And it seems like it's happening just exponentially faster. And I know that's kind of like a meme and a trope that's thrown out so much, but I mean, it really is just astounding.
It really does feel that way. And I think you made a really good point by bringing up the Trump stuff, too, and, like, perspective shifts on that. And, like, you know, all the weirdness about Keck and, like, the chaos matters around it. But it is true. It's, like, he is this chaos that's bubbled up to us to look deep into the darkness and realize that this is something that still exists, and it's a system that needs to change, and it would never change unless we could look deep into the darkness and stare it in the face. Yeah, and I think we would be Trump. Yeah, well, that's -- but what's weird about it is we all still kind of have this -- I don't know.
My dad asked me a question yesterday. I didn't have a good answer for it. I want to pivot here. Not really, but kind of. He's like, "Do you believe in free will?" And I said, "Yes and no." And I said, "Yes," because I do believe, like, if I pick up this card and flip it, and it's the star, that I intended to do that. But I also recognize that there's some other thing where that maybe was destined to happen and I'm just enacting it. What are your takes on free will? And I ask this -- usually, I'll be -- I'll fess up to this. When I ask someone a question, I usually have an opinion. I don't know that I have a solid opinion on this.
What is your take on it? I don't have a solid opinion on it either. I think it's a paradox. Yeah. All to me is, like, part -- maybe it is free will. All time is happening at once. There are so many different layers to reality. Right. Is there free will? Because if we're all one and we're all connected to the one, and, you know, we're just lost in this illusion of separateness, it's so trippy. I don't know. I have no solid answer. Yes and no. Yeah, yes and no. And neither. Which is what I said, too. Yes and no. And neither, of course. It's weird, though, because it does feel like we do on some level -- I'm comfortable enough with going on this metaphysical limb saying that we incarnate as people to learn something, to grow or transform, whatever we want to call it.
So in that capacity, that, to me, does indicate some level of free will. I don't even mean free will, like, how we think of it now. Like, I'm going to do what I want. But I mean pre-incarnation, some intention to experience something. And I do think there's a practical benefit for that. But, again, like, there's just so many -- like, synchronicity. When it happens and it cascades and continues to happen, it really just fucked with your ideas of, like, how this stuff fits together. Even you just recounting, like, when we initially met and just kind of what's happened since there. I mean, I imagine anyone listening to this, think of what you were doing in May, right?
Like, think of who you were doing in May. That's -- was Trump -- Trump was elected already, right? That's what's fucking crazy. Yeah. It's been over a year. How did that -- how did this year fly so fast? I mean, that's the thing. Time. It sounds so cliche, you know? You know, but it really is moving so much faster. And I try to get people's opinion on that who are older than me, because we only have -- essentially the same age -- we only have our perspective throughout time. We've only been alive for so long, but I speak to people older, and they seem to say that it is speeding up, like, significantly.
And we know also physically that is actually happening if you look into it. But I don't know, like, the other thing we were talking about, too, which I think is -- this is what I'm really -- and by the time this comes out, I'll have devoted an entire episode to it. So some of these thoughts won't be new. But the cryptocurrency thing that's happening now, you are one of the only other people I met -- and this was back in May -- you recommended I buy Ether. I had Bitcoin from back in 2013. We have your Mt. Gok story on the record. Cryptocurrency now is going insane. It's literally the market cap, the money flowing in, the instant millionaires, and people are able to pay off debt, is completely changing whether people realize it or not, like, a whole structure of reality related to money.
What -- I mean, you were lucky enough to date a Russian hacker who really had, you know, knowledge about this stuff. How do you think that fits into what we're talking about? Well, so, okay, so if everything's related to consciousness, and time is something that's flowing through consciousness, consciousness is expanding at a faster rate because technology is allowing that. And technology is growing at an unprecedented rate. And I think the smarter we're getting and we're aware that we've become, we are learning to kind of peek beyond the veil, and the illusions of mirages of days past are now becoming tired.
So, I mean, I think cryptocurrency coming into consciousness is a byproduct of this evolution that we're participating in, because money is merely an illusion. And this debt-based system is a bunch of -- like, it's just garbage. It's just the latest nonsense that really -- it's what we choose to opt into. We don't choose, do we? Do we choose to opt into it? I mean, like, we could say that we all have -- I said this, I think a couple weeks ago, like, you can change any aspect of your life at any time. You could do whatever you want. Like, literally, you could leave the country, you could get out of a relationship, you could begin a relationship, you could, you know, kill someone if you wanted to.
You can do whatever the fuck you want, and it significantly alters reality. But this cryptocurrency thing, the way it's kind of shaping the money -- it seems like, for the first time, at least in my life, that I can remember, we have an opportunity to unplug from this debt-based system that has dominated our society since bazaars were overtaken by the coin of the realm. When someone said, "I'm going to control the money, this is how we're going to do it out, this is all you can use as money, if you don't, we'll kill you." This is our first real opportunity. And what you said through the lens of technology allowing this stuff, it does seem like the prism of technology is allowing this consciousness to kind of allow us to maybe unshackle from this.
Totally. Which to me is insane. I feel like I don't want to be too evangelical about something as new as cryptocurrency, especially something that the vast majority of people don't really understand at all, just because it's so new to people. But it does feel exactly what you're talking about. It is allowing us to appeal -- imagine whoever's listening. You had no money concerns, ever, for the rest of your life. I'm not saying you can go and buy whatever you want, like Lamborghinis and whatever, but you just don't have to worry about it. You don't have any debt, you can afford to live where you want to live, you can pay the rent you can pay, you can buy a house, do whatever.
What would happen then in your life? I know a lot of us think that it would be amazing and we'd be happy all the time, and I'm sure our happiness would increase, especially if we had no money before, but that's not what would happen. We'd then be able to focus on like other issues in our lives. And that's what I think we're getting the opportunity to do here. Completely. I am. And I think that being freed of kind of the financial shackles of this current money system, I mean, the fact that all these millionaires are emerging from the Bitcoin boom, a lot of these millionaires are progressive thinkers.
So it's exciting to think about the potential of what somebody that is concerned about our future can do with resources like this. For me, I've been lucky with Ether and diversifying my crypto portfolio and I have a pretty positive trajectory for it. But I think about us having this conversation yesterday, what I would do if I didn't have to worry about money. And I would just create. Yeah. And that, I mean, that's my wheelhouse is creativity and putting out stuff that matters to me. That's why we get along so. Yeah. And it's like, that's what it's like this new renaissance that we're living in because the role of the creator and the doer and the mover and it's so important right now.
And it feels like if you ask me whether people recognize it or not, that just go back to something as recent as the 50s, I think that everyone's natural impulse is to create. I think that's what play is. That's what imagining is. That's just what our natural instinct to do. However, that I can just tell you from my personal life over the past year and a half, how many times I've wanted to create something, but I couldn't. I had a work to make money or I had to do this or have this obligation. So if we did open up kind of the portals that money can provide with time, you know, give you some time to do things, I think nowadays people would want to create.
And that's not to say like, if you don't have a creative impulse to make art or anything, consuming creativity over time seems to have a positive correlation between creating yourself. Like that's what inspires us. You know, when people say there's nothing new under the sun, some people take that to me and like, oh, that sucks. But no, that means we get to draw on this entire legacy of art and culture to be inspired for new stuff. So it does seem like that's the kind of what we're trying to get to underneath all of this. On the flip side, you know, there are a lot of responsible people who are progressive thinkers who are really thinking about how to better society through a lot of these technologies and, you know, newfound wealth.
There's also a lot of people who aren't, right? I mean, that's the flip side to this and not that it's some evil, horrible thing, but I mean, I can tell you having gotten heavily involved in crypto over the past week, there are some goons out there who are making a killing, who are just absolutely making a killing. And it's how do we balance the people who are going to have immense wealth and imparting these types of qualities that we think are important, you know, honoring each other, honoring the earth, you know, making sure that your neighbor is taken care of in you and you're not greedy. Like, how do we make sure that that somehow gets filtered through all of the crypto?
And I think that's kind of the big question for a lot of this stuff, too. Well, I think that's just the universal paradox coming to play, where it's like this never-ending Star Wars saga. It is, right? Like, do you go to the dark side or are you a Jedi? Are you ruled by fear in the material world? Or are you in love with life? I'm saying this isn't looking at the devil in the lovers' cards. Yeah. You know, it's a really good metaphor because if time is cyclical and holographic and all these different layers of it, I mean, the same cycles will repeat itself, where there will be the progressive thinkers that want to be a part of the Renaissance and they'll be the people that make millions and still want to buy, like, a million cars.
Yeah. You know, it's true. And I mean, I think to not get discouraged by that there's two sides of this, you know, it does to me always just come back to the simple thing that you work on yourself first. You can't worry about, you know, the shitheads getting rich and, you know, not worrying about it and doing horrible things. I mean, I think of anything over the past few months we've seen, especially with the sexual allegations stuff that's all coming out. Like, we're seeing a flip. We're seeing women emboldened to talk about commonplace things that are just, like, totally not. Also, I just, like, I was unaware that raping was an okay thing to do for, like, the majority of men out there.
It's so crazy. And it's crazy. Like, I've had enough female friends for my life that I've heard stories from even, like, right out of high school, like, this shit has been prevalent. But it does seem like there is this other kind of, you know, wave that's happening. And it's not happening. We can't predict it, right? We'd love to be able to say, oh, yeah. Like, this shock-d wave of feminine energy is going to just take over and everyone's going to be great. But it's not how it happens. It happens in these weird, like, starts and Donald Trump's and this thing and that. And I think it's trying to figure out how to ride those waves without getting thrown off or if you do get thrown off how to get back on.
Because that seems like we're talking about all this stuff. And I think this tends to happen in a lot of my conversations. I'm incredibly optimistic. You're incredibly optimistic. We want to live in the future where we're in the utopian society and nothing bad ever happens. But this is not how life works. So how do we gird ourselves or give ourselves the, provide ourselves the ability to move through those difficult times with as much grace as possible to, right? Yeah. I know. So what other adventures have you been on since we last spoke about this left, too? Because, I mean, like, you went through these dark themes with Iowa, and you're telling me about this cool alien experience or UFO experience in Egypt, which is a lovely counterbalance to the last story you told on this, which is this very dark triangle, like, gave me the chills.
What do you think that shit is? So that was the thing, you know, where I'm trying to make sense of what it is that I saw. Right. So, you know, the night of the full moon, we got to have time in each of the three of the great pyramids. And after leaving the first pyramid after being in the King's chamber and, you know, having this, like, completely transcendental experience, looking up to the sky and seeing a cluster of bright lights. And at first it was a little, and then I was telling Noah, telling you that, like, at one point, there was like 30 lights just flying so fast through the sky. And there was about 15 of us looking up at this.
Like, this is happening. This is unbelievable. There's no... There's... This is not birds. Yes. And there's enough of us that independently validate that this is happening. These are giant orbs in a cluster flying through the sky above the great pyramids. And then not to, you know, about 15 minutes go by. And then a military plane flies over the pyramids. You know, the guide had said to us that the pyramids are a no fly zone. And this happens all the time when, like, phenomena, like that happens. So in my head, you know, if it was me three years ago, like, "Elly is!" Like, "Oh my God!" But I don't know if it's as simple as that.
If the veils are lifting and we're becoming more aware of this multidimensional reality, what could it be? You know? Like, I don't know if necessarily it's something alien, maybe it's... Could be you. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. You know, like, maybe these are our souls looking down. There are so many different ideas to what it is. And, you know, I told you about the dream that I had where I had this really powerful dream where I see these beings that were squashing versions of the communion alien. And they said to me, "The more that you heal and awaken, the more we'll reveal ourselves." And I don't know if it's just the screen memory of whatever.
But it could be so many things. Yeah. But it's just life is so much more magical and we're just scratching the surface. And... Yeah. It does feel like that. I mean, that seems to be the theme of what I was trying to express to is I'm not granted. I smoke cannabis every single day. So my reality is different than probably people who don't. And one could say I'm living in an altered state of reality and maybe that's delusional. I can tell you, I've lived in this kind of both worlds seeping into each other. When you live here long enough where these things are bouncing off each other or merging on top, you have one of two choices if it's a really long time.
You can lose your shit completely. Just like totally lose it and be like, "What the fuck?" Or you can just learn that there is a skill that is being acquired here. There is some method that allows us to communicate things that maybe aren't completely overt or obvious that are still carrying some weight. And I'm thinking that this is the time where everyone is getting the opportunity to do that. Not just the people who smoke cannabis every day or take psychedelics or go to Egypt and see crazy lights in the sky. And I think, again, this is validated by the types of people who hit me up about this stuff.
This is happening everywhere all of the time and I think if we can kind of identify what our personal issues are, first of all, those will most likely be collective issues. But if we start identifying those, this goes back to what I was talking about. People are getting what they're asking for. If there was ever a time to test out prayer or intention, this is the time. Trust me on that. This is the time. Maybe like my biggest prayer over the past six to eight months, especially I ain't fucking money. I need some money. You should is not going the way I intended it to go. Lo and behold, Alexis gets a job, a great job.
Lo and behold, this cryptocurrency that was worth something but nothing crazy all of a sudden, even on a down day like today, is worth a lot, way more than my debt minus the mortgage. But, you know, that should happen. You can say it's just a correlation, but I think this is the opportunity that we're being presented with. And that means we get to work on whatever the fuck we want to work on completely. That's it. Oh, man. Yeah, it's wild because it just feels like things are a lot more malleable. You know, when you put out thought, it reflects back so much faster. Even the Egypt trip, the other weird synchronicity of that is I started working on the Oracle Card deck, which is about the Egyptian Netter Maat, which is the feather that your heart is waiting against.
The, you know, the whatever in the book of the dead. I start working on that. I connect to the artist Natalie Miller from Instagram. She's never been to where I live. She lives in Chicago. We hit it off like you wouldn't believe. I love this girl. We start talking, she's like, oh, you live in Esbury Park. My best friend lives there. Where does she live? Oh, weird. That's the same street as me. I'm like, it's a very small town. What's your friend's name? Yeah. I look her up on Facebook. Her best friend is my downstairs neighbor. And there's only six apartments in my building. So then all those other weird stuff starts happening.
Then I get gifted this trip to Egypt. Right. Like I got gifted the trip to Egypt. I didn't have to. I paid for it, too. And I'm same with Rythmia, where it's been a lot of like you put out the thought, have faith in it. And find its way. And it's not always going to come how you imagine it. No. But it will come back. No, it will come back. But it is so true that, you know, I think that's like that we're looking at the devil card. This is just going to be in our periphery and in our vision. But like, you know, there's the famous story of like, you know, the devil makes a bargain with you. And it's you get what you ask for, but not in the way you wanted.
And that's usually construed as some like trick by the devil who played a fast one on you. And now you're screwed. And you're like, oh, I'm your hands or something. But in reality, if we take that parable to me and that like, you know, yeah, you're going to get what you ask for, but in the way that you need it, right? The Rolling Stones long can't always get what you want, but you get what you need. Yes. That certainly seems to be, it's just so fucking hard to remember that when shit seems to be going wrong. Totally. That to me seems to be a kind of recurring theme of what I'm trying to work on.
And I don't think it's unique to me, but when shit isn't going right. Not that I collapsed into myself, but like the cascading thoughts of like, Oh, my God, this sucks. This is bullshit. Or it's mercury retrograde. All this shit. Why is this going wrong? Fuck this. How to maintain that sense of equanimity through it and know that this is going to pass just like the other thing. And on the same token, the flip side of that is when things are going great, how not to get too attached to the greatness of the things and the magical best amazing things, but to be acutely aware of it, but experience it in the present rather than worrying about it going.
Or worrying about it going away or blah, blah, blah, blah. Totally. It's about balance, you know, and I think that you made a really good point because this year has been nothing short of magical, but the year before it was hell. This is like the worst thing I ever went through in my life. I wanted to give up. I just felt so defeated, but I kept working at it and fighting through it. And I feel very blessed for the path that's been presented, but I will never get too cocky because I know the opposite side of the coin. And I think that's the thing. These things happen to us so that we can seek gratitude for each moment and find the lesson in it.
I think that's true spiritual growth is like finding the lesson in the metaphor and looking back and saying, well, oh, this is what I learned so I can be here now. And I'm learning this so I can be wherever the next part of my chapter is. That's right. But I don't hate the adversity, man. You know, like even what happened was Mount Gox, if the civil rehabilitation does go through. That was a long-term savings account. I know. And we were talking about it like most people who had Bitcoin throughout that entire time and could have moved them probably would have, right? I was looking through my blockchain transactions and I saw what were clearly bets.
I had sent to like, you know, like betting things, Bitcoin betting things. I'm like, oh, this bet that at the time was $20 is a $6,000 bet. I put on some stupid, which is like, oh, but you know, truthfully, like, it is true how these things can flip, like such a horrible thing. All of your Bitcoin worth, you know, tens of thousands of dollars being sold could potentially be reimbursed at hundreds of thousands of dollars. It does show the malleability of what's going on. And I think, like I said, that puts the onus on us to kind of figure out what we want to do with that responsibility, right? With great power comes great responsibility and that besides being a spider man thing is really true.
And it doesn't mean we have to be good people weirdly enough. There's no rule as we all knew that you can get what you want only because you're a good person. That's not how it works. Donald Trump wanted to be well, maybe he didn't, but he seemingly wanted to be president and he got it. Donald Trump is not a good person. No one would argue that he is, even people who like him. So there's no real correlation necessarily between being a great human being and achieving what you desire. The question is, can you reflect on what you're doing to make sure that the things you desire or want are actually going to be useful and productive for you.
That's kind of the trick that I think we all kind of have to go through in life. And often like what you're saying, like, you think you want something and you don't really. And I think that creates a lot of trouble for people too. I see it all of the time, like friends, you know, acquaintances on Facebook, like they're miserable because they thought they wanted something. They got it and they didn't get like our friend Gerard, right? Like perfect example, right? Yeah, I, it, there has, and again, like the reason I bring this up is like, especially really to the crypto. Do you know how many Gerard's they're going to be?
Yeah, like, do you know how many there are right now? Completely. We've been in the rat race of trying to bring up, get as much money as possible and all of a sudden you have it. Then what? Then what? You know what I mean? Because you create, it's very obvious. You create, it leads to income for you in a variety of ways, but you create because you have to do it. It is very clear. A lot of people in this economy, the digital economy, especially create because it makes them money. Yeah, well that was the thing because when I started, when I started evolving, I just started on Squarespace with no idea what the hell I was doing.
You know, it was just like, I just have to do this. I don't have any other choice but to write what I'm feeling. And it's funny because in the same conversation I had yesterday too about similar stuff. My friend had asked me, where do you see yourself in 10 years? Do you see yourself working? And I'm like, well, I don't look at what I do as work. Well, I will never stop creating. I will never stop creating, I'll be a little old lady looking to ways to learn new art techniques or writing techniques. I never will stop. Yeah, it's an innate curiosity and engagement with the world that not everyone has, but I think everyone does possess it, but not everyone is in touch with.
And I think that's like something that even Michael Philip, who we're talking about in the podcast, I didn't check him in the conversation because he was on a really good rant, but he was like, you know, everyone experiences boredom. And I'm like, I don't get bored. Like, I maybe, maybe like distracted board or something, but like, there's always shit to do. I've never bored. I don't know if that's an only child thing on my part. I'm not an only child. I don't know, Lexus gets bored and she's an only child, I don't know, I don't think it has anything to do with that. I think it just has to do with this innate.
My dad seems to be a similar way, just fascinated by whatever, like I was telling you before Hamilton. I can't believe you asked about Hamilton. I mean, like, honestly, but seriously, I don't get bored. How can you be bored in this world, if anything, there's not enough time to explore everything. And I think that impulse is what is at like, that's like the beauty of the human existence, is we have this ability to explore what we want to explore. We have this ability to get into the things we want to get into and to kind of just like waste that is just not something that ever appeals to me. And I don't want to make it seem like I have just to be clear, like, I never want to sit on a pedestal.
For the past month and a half, with my free time, when I'm not taking care of Eli, when he's down for his nap, I'm playing Hearthstone. So I'm not like Mr. like, "Hey, I'm going to go read a whole book all of the time." But I'm certainly not bored when I'm doing that. And I try to think of like the reasons I'm doing things as I'm doing this. So even if it seems like a mindless game, like I know the reason I'm doing it. I'm the same way. I mean, my guilty pleasure, my ex-Russian hacker turned me onto this Russian card game called Durak. So I'll play that and I'll play poker and then I'll read and then I'll draw and then I'll listen to something and watch a movie.
I feel like there's so much that it's so hard to get boring. Do you ever see the movie adaptation? Yes, I love Nick Cage. Yes, remember the scene where he's like, "Oh, I don't feel inspired." And the teacher got so mad at him. Yeah, yeah. Like, "Fuck it. Like, what are you doing? Like, there's so much." I'm not. Get out of here. Yeah. And I wonder if it's a cultural kind of operating system that snuffs that out of people because this is this again. Like going back, I just feel like so many people are, turns my cannot famously refer to it as culture as the cudgel of society and consciousness. It just beats us down with what we need to do and what we have to do.
But I don't know how people would react if that was just gone. Do you know what I mean? If you were just like, "Hey, you don't have to worry about this anymore. You don't have to go to work anymore. You don't have to do this. What are you going to do?" I think a lot of us would probably just like fuck off for a little bit. But then what? Well, I think the thing is like I may seem unorthodox by the stance that I take on this. But, you know, all the talk about the divine feminine right then. Yes, yes, yes. I don't think it necessarily means female. I think it means activating the feminine aspects of mind.
Yes. Which are intuition, creativity, maternal nature, connection to magic and nature. And I think that that's the thing. It's like activating that part of our minds. Yes. And it's beyond just being a female thing. I think it's awakening within men too. And that's back to the Egyptians because they believe that too. The scarab actually was a symbol of the human brain. So there's a frontal cortex and there's a left side and the right side. Wow. Because they revered the brain as the force that nature filters. Yes, filters. Yes. Yes. So you know, male side is logic, zeros and one, science. Analytical.
Yeah. So I think that's what that really means. That is 100% accurate and something that I think is really important to point out. And there's two aspects of that. One is that women are obviously having a moment. Female energy is going to impact women and cultural movements and women more than men because women possess more feminine qualities on the whole than men. Period. But what you're saying is 100% accurate. I'm not a woman. I've felt this thing come in since 2001, if not before. It's activated in everyone. I mean, I noticed it when taking care of EY. I got a maternal instinct, apparently, that I had no idea existed.
That's just like a natural thing. It's amazing. That is really important that these qualities are possessed by everyone. And the balancing that's going to happen isn't like all of a sudden there's no male leaders and it's all women. That would be fraught with difficulty as well. It's that we have to be aware of these energies inside of ourselves. And be open to us kind of letting go of what we think is going to happen for ourselves or with all this stuff. And just kind of seeing what happens. That's like the most important thing because any time I've tried to create my reality to heaven, like just like art.
Just like art. Whenever you really try to focus on it, you're doing so much. That shit, usually. It's like you're overcompensating. You're not just letting it happen. You're forcing it. So I think it's very Yoda. It's very hard. There is no try. That's exactly right. And it becomes very clear and we luckily have all these tools and modalities now that are just like sprouting everywhere. Just everywhere. And it's an amazing time to see this. But one thing I do hear from people is they get overwhelmed with a lot of this stuff too. Not everyone has had the benefit of figuring out how to listen or getting in touch with their intuition.
So for us, we're riding the wave here. This is kind of like second nature at this point. Not to mention all the shit we had to go through to get here. But how do you suss out? How do you figure out what's going to be the right thing? I know you got some tips on how to do that. You teach a class on intuition. Well, it's like the back to Terrence McKenna. Don't give in to the astonishment. Because there's a lot of glamour and illusion and mirage that is very attractive. And desirable. But you have to learn how to navigate the mirages better. Because there is no quick fix when it comes to the spiritual path.
I've actually been studying Alice Bailey's work for a while. And I just am starting the path with the arcane school. And one of their initiation questions was, are you prepared for the cost it takes to tread the path? Yes. And it's not a financial cost. No. Because it's not all of a sudden I've read Gabby Bernstein or Deepak Chopra or Gala Darling. And now I'm just living in this magical reality. And I manifested a Ferrari with hot pink leather interior. It's not like that. It's a lot of revelation through experience. And it's not always going to be what you expect. And you know, when I teach people about tapping into their intuition, it's not about tapping into the psychic faculty in mind so that you can like, you know, completely hack reality.
And like, it's about connecting to the language that was before words. You know, because feeling is the initial language and we're in this known society. And when we learn to feel, we can kind of experience more synchronicity and dissolve this illusion of separateness and ego. Man, that's super fucking profound because that I think is one of the gifts that empathic people have. I didn't know that was a term that I had described to myself in the past, but I know there's many other people. All different walks and life and everything. We're empathic and they feel this stuff. And those are the people who tend to have these type of, I don't know if you call it existential questions, but these feelings, these, you be out in public and you get a weird vibe from someone and you don't know why and you don't want to be judgy, but that's weird.
Getting in touch with that is kind of the root of like, sussing out what's going on. And we do feel a lot of friction when we go out in the world. Like, I just know when I go to the grocery store, luckily, I'll tell you a beauty of having a kid. A kid is like a force field. It's fucking insane. You're so lucky. It's fucking insane. It's literally you go anywhere. It's like a force field of like happiness. And, you know, like any force field or any attractive force, the people who don't like kids or for whatever reason are not happy with themselves, they fucking don't like them. And they'll be weird around them.
They know it's going to hit a baby or push a baby, but you can tell. But for the most part, it's just like, I remember going out in the world and just being like, you know, pretty open and outgoing. I have conversations with people, but you can feel people's reactions to you with a kid. It's like, it's amazing. It's just like the weirdest thing. It really is like a force field that extends out from the kid where people are just like, oh, you're cool. I have fuck with you. Oh my God. You're so lucky because honestly, like we talk about triggers, the grocery store. I lose it in there. I fucking love it.
Every time I go, last time somebody like smashed into my ankle with a cart and say, sorry. I'm like, excuse me. That hurt. So we have, we have two grocery stores here. And one is the smoothie one where we just were. We won't name the town. But one is the smoothie one and people are angry in there. I don't know why. I don't know what's so important in their lives making money or whatever it is. But they're just angry. Like I've been in there with Eli and I'm like, there's a narrow aisle where we pick out the soy milk. And this person just gotten a huge huff behind me. And I am the person if you tailgate me, I'm going to slow that down.
I'm going to slow real down. So I took my sweet time getting the thing and I'm like, why are people like, what is so, like you're not, you can't be that much in rush. I go to the grocery store like one in the afternoon. Like no one's rushing to get back to make dinner. But the one in our town, everyone's super friendly. Everyone's really nice for whatever reason. But no, I know the going out in the world can be a very stressful experience. And having this little buffer child is a beautiful thing to have because you don't have to really worry about it. Like you're not a weirdo by yourself out there.
You're like, no, look what I did. I made this. This is cute. Therefore, I'm okay out here people. No, it's very interesting. But I mean, I'm trying to think of the practical tips that we can, we can, it seems like the world is changing, has been changing at an incredibly rapid rate. We have now these outlets, whether it's crypto, whether it's spirituality, whether it's just investigating ourselves or dreams or art or creativity. We have all of these tools. What do you think is something that has helped you kind of follow through? Because you're someone I look at, I mean, before I reached out to you or we got in contact, you know, I was incredibly impressed with the evolve and ascend, not even necessarily the content, although the content was really, you could tell the cohesiveness of the intention behind it.
So what has kind of helped you in your creative and professional or just life life kind of like figure out what you're about and get that out in the world? That's a really great question. Really, I think it boils down to the experiences that good and bad have kind of been this test where, you know, in the past, like when I was younger, like 20, I'd try on different hats, right? Like, do I want to have a t-shirt company? Do I want to work in radio? Do I want to just be a housewife? These were all these questions I had when 2012 happened and I had this remembering awakening, starting evolve and ascend and following this path, I had no other option.
There was nothing else I could do or be or try on. This is who I am. And when you really connect to who you are and your true nature, you'll fight for it. And fighting through the adversity and the times where shit was tough and I was like, "Didn't even know how I was going to pay rent?" I had no choice but to keep fighting. So remembering the lessons that have got me to where I am now and remaining humble has been like an integral part of the lightness, I guess maybe you feel too? Yeah, I mean, it's very clear and I mean, I've noticed it in other people too and many of them have done ayahuasca, some of them have done full meditation retreats, but it doesn't seem, I'd love to say that ayahuasca or meditation or whatever it is you're doing is that's the thing that's going to work for you and you're going to be good.
But it doesn't seem like that seems just like it happened to work. It happened to be what your mind accepted as the thing that was going to get you to the place where you could start doing what you really want to be doing. And that's all we're talking about here. When you can't do anything else except the thing you're doing, there's a reason I'm still doing these podcasts. I don't have time for this shit, but I'm doing it because like, I can't not do it at this point. And it's not just because I'm egotistical and want to see people listening to me. It's because there's a reason behind it. I can't necessarily define what exactly the reason is, but it's there nonetheless.
And I think that's kind of like the core of like, figure out what that is. Just for yourself, figure out what that is. And letting go of attachment to how it's going to manifest, you know, like you made a good point, like it could be that you have some remembering or awakening through Ayahuasca. It could be through meditation. It could be through a synchronicity. It could be through like, you know, walking down the street and finding a random tarot card. You know, you never know what it's going to be. And when it starts to unfold, don't attach so much to the worry and the fear. Feel into like the good feelings.
Yes. And the astonishment too, which you pointed out, you don't want to get swept away with this stuff because then you kind of lose. It's like the difference between a micro dose and a macro dose, not that everyone is the same. But one of the things I love about micro dosing is you have a little bit more awareness and control, not that you really have control, but you can kind of play around with this space. If you get into a heavy dose of any psychedelic, that's like a dose doing you as much as you're doing it. So if you have that ability to kind of reflect on what's going on, that's a great entry point.
All right. So we're going to wrap this up. But I want to ask you the last three questions. Yeah. What's your favorite color right now? Favorite color right now? Oddly enough, it's black. Cool. Yeah. You're wearing all black. Yeah. What's your favorite number? Eleven. Cool. What is your favorite animal right now? Favorite animal right now, which is funny and probably why I told you to get those little boots is the red box. Foxes are so fucking cool. They're also terrifying when they make screams that you heard the fox. Yeah. What's the heart of that song? What does it sound? It's a horrible screech that you think banshee is coming for you.
It's not good. Same with koalas. That's horrifying. Really? Yeah. I know they're like, I heard like koalas are nasty. They're nasty. They carry syphilis. Oh, lovely. Yeah. But we'll end it on that. Yeah. That's the other thing. I think we should end it on this is no matter where the path takes you and where you go with spiritual enlightenment and conscious evolution. Don't lose your sense of humor. Oh, the source. Got to laugh through it. You have to. You really have to. Jen, thank you. You know what? Oh, we just glad I did it. [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC]
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