Tales From The Energetic Front Lines with Rodin from WaterBaby Tarot

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Welcome to Synchrony. My guest this week is Rodin from Waterbaby Tarot. It's Mercury retrograde now. Venus is still in retrograde until June 25th. That's just a nice and key way of saying shit is fucked. What the fuck is going on? All my technology stuff now is being weird. Smash the car up, fucking missing, live readings on Patreon, just weird energy. If you're in that, it's okay. This episode is for you. Do not know Rodin, Waterbaby Tarot. It's my favorite. She's like the one energy tarot reader I consistently watch on YouTube. She's the best and I'm lucky enough to consider her a friend now.

Our conversations are always the best on air offer. The first one of these was over on the Patreon a few weeks ago and I was like fuck, what am I doing? Gating this shit. I gotta have her back on the regular show just because people need to be tuned in who aren't. I can't imagine you don't know who she is but if you don't, you'll discover her in this episode. We talk about a whole bunch of shit. This is like, this is deep woo shit. If you're someone who like really wants to get into like the galactic God fucking duality, life is a dream trip, this is the episode for you. Also, we play this game.

We like to identify as gods here and she's Ra Amthoth and if you know anything about that relationship, you won't find it surprising that we agree pretty much about everything all of the time. It's fucking weird. And like, I've rarely found people, I mean, I found people who I can talk about this stuff with and I know are completely aware and have great conversations but rarely am I so in tune with someone just from like a deep metaphysical energetic sense. And so we're gonna be doing a lot more stuff and you'll hear more from Rodin. For sure. Go subscribe to her Patreon. That's the best way. The bonus is stuff that she gives out are some of the best that I've found.

It's really easy. There'll be links on this episode, all the show notes, all the stuff. You can find it easily. And Bomi's spirit, she's getting off the ground. She basically, I'm gonna be helping her kind of just feature really cool fucking people. She has this ability to kind of like galvanize and harness energy and I'm gonna just do like, oh yeah, do a flick of the risk and try to get this up to a quantum super level. Not that she needs my help. She's fucking amazing and killing it but we're gonna work on some stuff together. So stay tuned for that. Off air, I think we mentioned we'll probably be doing some live things too 'cause we're both the type of people who can just talk really easily.

But energy, it's been dense. There's a lot going on. I get it. I get it. It's just one of these things where we're oscillating, we're calibrating. I'm learning the lesson. I think my big level up, we talk about some of these ascension symptoms in the beginning here. I think my biggest transcendence has been how to transcend challenging energy. How to actually recognize the transient nature of it and actually use it as a potent kind of leveling up tool. So I know a lot of us wanna think, especially with the imagination stuff, that why don't we just go up in a straight line towards glory and why do we have to have these dips and valleys and peaks and challenging energy?

That's uncomfortable sometimes. And there's an obvious answer that if everything was perfect all the time, we wouldn't know what perfect was. It wouldn't feel perfect. We wouldn't have anything to balance it against. But also we like this. And if you do zoom out, everything does look like a straight line going up. But if you zoom in, you'll see these little peaks and valleys of how things work. And that's cool. There's nothing wrong with that. It's kind of fun. It's enjoyable. But really being, getting familiar with how to deal with challenging energy, recognizing kind of the beauty behind it, that's something I've been learning a lot of.

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Okay, I don't wanna hear the music blast in 'cause it's about to come. I have to edit this. It's mercury retrograde, have retrograde? There's nothing more mercury retrograde than saying mercury retrograde. Look, it's been intense, but enjoy it. It will allow you to appreciate the times in your life that are smoother, much more. That's a real function of something when these reviewing periods. So anyway, that's it. How would I stop babbling? Yep, so would that be nice? I think so. Without further ado, here is Rodin from Water Baby Titter. (upbeat music) ♪ Take my soul, take my soul ♪ Cool, how are you?

Oh, how am I? Yeah, that's exactly how I would start my answer. Yeah, God, this is gonna be hard. I feel so inarticulate today. So, gosh, all right. So I feel like there's some kind of upgrade or ascension going on with me, which I think a lot of people are going through right now. Yeah. So my symptoms have been in and out. So like now it's like most of my upper chakras are like still getting worked on. I've come into a lot of cool information. There's actually a book I started reading that's below my mind that I can't wait to talk to you about. Awesome. And I don't know if you've heard of it. It's called The Book of Doors.

No, I haven't heard that, that sounds amazing. And it's crazy, you know, how the universe works. Like the way it came into my existence was, you know, just one of those like very off like coincidental things. And I was like, oh, I'm supposed to have this. I don't know why, but I'm supposed to have this book. And just reading the introduction, I was like, oh, shit. I was like, oh, shit. Like this is kind of the key to understanding a lot of stuff that's going on with the gods. Oh, amazing. I'm writing it down. I rarely take notes, but now I'm doing it. The Book of Doors, amazing. Well, and honestly, I was going to just send it to you because it's like blowing my mind and activating me like crazy that I just want to send it to all the gods.

Oh, yes, send it. I'm always receptive. You know that. Oh, amazing. OK, The Book of Doors. Yeah, there's definitely an ascension going on. All of the physical symptoms are there for everyone, all the emotional ones. It's crazy. I think like, I think I saw in your was a cancer, a new moon. And we're talking about all the things going retrograde. There was an energy where it felt like this before, where it was like clear a ton of upgrades were happening. I want to say it was like last year around this time. I remember a lot of physical symptoms and just like energy. I was in a very different position, but I just remember it feeling similar.

Like there was all these waves of like new shit coming on. It's crazy. It's been really crazy, especially the past week for me. Yeah, most definitely. And now that's the thing, time is so schizophrenic right now that I can't even tell you when it really started for me. And like it's even, like you said, it's almost like an elevated experience compared to what we've had previously, which kind of makes sense because I and this is a download that I got that basically a big wave of people are integrating into the new earth frequency because they're integrating some of us who like lay down the foundational work who are already integrated are getting upgraded to handle that wave, basically.

So we have this big wave coming in integrating and then we have people upgrading from already being integrated. And then we're going to have a wave of people waking up behind the people who are integrating. So time is like, I feel like time is almost like expanding and contracting and trying really hard to like find an anchor point, I guess, in some way. Like something to like, yeah, something to like get fixated on. So Deja Vu was not even really what I feel like I've been experiencing. I feel like I'm existing. And then all of a sudden I'm pushed back 20 minutes and reliving 20 minutes over again, which is very weird.

Yeah, it's awful actually, I don't like it. Well, because it's not fun when you're in 3D in linear time and you have that dissociative experience. I got to tell you, like the one thing that kind of helped me not only like exists in this period, but also kind of thrive. Like with the time being so malleable is ketamine. It just like it's this weird dissociative. I know Jess always like jokes that like I'm always on ketamine. I'm not. But I did do a fair amount of it starting back in October for a couple of months when I was in LA. And it kind of puts you in this place where you really recognize and just realize is the right word that time doesn't exist.

It's just this kind of like facet of this reality. And when you can kind of step out of it, it gives you this different perspective on like how shit works. But if you're like bound to linear things, I mean, this whole week just to be clear, like all of my arguments, all of my disagreements have essentially boiled over related to time. Like related to either how much time I have or how much time other people have or considerations for plans or when and where, which is like, I feel like it's all kind of coming to the surface and people are dealing with like time issues now, especially with like the Corona and like where everyone's still kind of in this weird in between like pause state from their quote unquote regular lives, like people are really looking at time.

And I think it's kind of like an emperor's new clothing type of situation where it's like, is it real? Are we sure we're actually investing in this the same way that we used to?

Definitely.

It's fucking nuts.

Well, and it's interesting that you mentioned arguments 'cause like people have been telling me they've been getting into a lot of fights with people. And I've been actually, that's part, that's something else that happened to me recently that I could tell this upgrade ascension, whatever word you wanna put on it, is very different for me this time. 'Cause I literally woke up one morning and I felt everybody left my energy field. Almost like people have been banished from my energy, which is weird. So I haven't been talking to anybody. Even like when I feel the urge to leave my house, like I need a groceries for quite a while, but it was very clear that like, oh, I'm not supposed to like be around anybody right now for whatever's going on. - Yeah, shit.

I kept going out and I kept getting annoyed at like really basic shit that like used to annoy me like years ago, but I haven't really bothered myself. It's just like crowded places, just like little annoyances of going out and shit. And I was so bothered and agitated. I'm like, what the fuck? I wonder if it's just because it's like a nerve, like when it's exposed, it's incredibly sensitive until it like acclimates. I feel like maybe that's what this process is and that's why everyone's kind of on edge like with the new shit coming on. And like we still are kind of running some of these old scripts, which really for a lot of us who look forward and can feel what's coming, just feel so dissonant for the way things are gonna work.

But yeah, definitely agitation. Oh my God, it's like it's insane. Yeah, and with this new moon, there is a theme of that. Like looking back, actually I was getting downloads about going back to the beginning, like zero point, going back to roots a little bit. And kind of seeing how we've behaved in like our old ways of being and like who like the people we used to be and like the different roles we played for people and anything that still need to be worked out as far as like any shame or guilt or anything like that. So I do think a lot of old like dysfunctions and mythologies are really highlighted right now.

But like, you know, I'm laughing. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, well, the other thing that's weird 'cause you know, my job is like YouTube for the most part and like Patreon and all of that. So every once in a while, like, you know, I'm getting bombarded by like web ads and that's been the trippiest thing. It's like so many of these web ads feel like they're from like the 1950s. Oh, I know. Like it has that kind of script and feel and it's just, it just as kind of fucks my head a little bit when I'm confronted with that. Yeah, yeah, the ads, I mean, because people are, there's a enough, enough is the key word here.

People and just like energies like running these things that like when you see through them, it's kind of like you ever see the movie they live where Roddy Roddy Piper has these special sunglasses and when he puts them on, you can see all the people have like infiltrated and there's like aliens and like he looks at the magazines and you don't have the glasses on. They look like time and people and then you look at it and it's like obey, serve your masters. It's like these special glasses. It feels like once you kind of like get to this point and you look at some of these old apparatuses for like control that you're just like, what is this?

Like why is this a thing? Like how are people still running these programs of like, what to me feels like ridiculous, like almost comical control mechanisms, but then you realize like, of course, this is still influencing like a decent amount of contingent. It wouldn't exist if it didn't. So yeah, there's some weird. I also feel like what you said, like a lot of this stuff I had two readings today and one of them really dug, actually both of them we mentioned it, but a lot of ancestral and familial stuff is coming on and the way I experience it is always in the moment when I'm processing some like ancestral or familial thing.

It always feels like me, like it never feels like an energy that's foreign to me. It doesn't feel like, oh, like that's my grandfather or oh, blah, blah, blah. It just feels like me getting upset about something or reacting to something. But then after the fact, I'll look back and I'll be like, what the fuck was that? Like that's not even a viewpoint I had. And I noticed in a reading today someone was telling me they're like, you know, I have these experiences and there were these energies and like, they were really vague and it didn't feel like me, but I was still aware of them. I'm like, you know, that could be not you.

And like, I'm not saying like everything is you on one level, but in duality, we have these narratives, we have these people, we have these other entities. Like sometimes I think we're digging up shit here for the benefit of the people who didn't get to work through it in this timeline while they were alive and had bodies. And I feel like that's a lot of what's being resurfaced now too.

Yeah, I would agree with that. I would agree with that. And I feel like there's also distortions that play there too as well. Like you said, because it hasn't been able to get worked out. And so it's like energy that doesn't get to really get played out. It doesn't get to do anything. It doesn't get to transform for however long, you know, and like we said, time is not linear. But I feel like that actually starts to distort energy because energy is not supposed to be stagnant.

Right, it needs to move. It needs to move. That's, yeah, that's another thing that came up today. It's you gotta, you gotta actually flow where you're supposed to flow when you're supposed to flow or shit gets weird, you know? Things can fester and breed in stagnation for sure. Yeah.

What is it? Is it the eight of swords where she's blindfolded and walking or is that the, that's the eight of swords?

Yeah, eight of swords. That's what the, I always look at the water on that card and the wider weight and like, like listen, there's stagnating water there and it's a little gross and muddy, but you can still walk through it, you know? Like if you know that it's not too crazy, you can make that transition. Even if you're away from home, I feel like that's kind of the energy. Like it's just like, yeah, it's gonna be some muddy shit. I also heard you say that, which felt totally accurate. That 2021 is gonna be like, if it's like a game, a sports game and it starts raining, it's gonna have to play through the rain in the mud.

I was like, yeah, that sounds right.

Yeah, I know people didn't wanna hear that either, but I was like, look, let's just the reality of what I'm feeling is coming. It's not going to be sunshine and roses. Like it's just not and that's okay.

Yeah.

It just is what it is.

And you find like, and I think what people, like when they hear us talking about this, like with a pretty chipper attitude, it's not that it's like a morbid, sad state of affairs. It's just like, if you're prepared for like putting on your mud boots, you won't be pissed off that you had like flip flops on.

You know, that's basically, that's the whole thing. Like.

Yeah, no 20 CLs if you just get prepared and all that stuff.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, no, I mean, I watch your, me and my partners and these watch your readings pretty regularly just because man, you tapped in to just the collective in such a cute way. And I think it's ahead of like where a lot of people, you mentioned these waves coming and I've noticed it too. Like a lot of people wake up in these groups. Like you can see it. Like, oh, like these, my friends who are into this are kind of now like waking up to it. My friends, you know, interests related sometimes, type of person culturally, but whatever it is, it's really, I think a special thing to be kind of like trailblazing a lot of these waves before they actually happen and have some recognition that this is energy we may be moving through.

Also with like the knowledge that things malleable, everything's malleable here. We're not forced into some predetermined state, but I mean, how do you personally, like in your life, this is just, I always am interested in my friends who do this shit, like how do you ride these waves of people waking up energetically, things getting chaotic, but also having the foresight to kind of feel them coming into existence? Like what does it feel like to you on like a regular basis?

Oh man, you know, I was kind of talking to a friend of mine recently about the who is actually very awake and like, I would actually say like me and her are very much in the same spot. And this is why we were able to kind of dive into this where we can see what's coming. We have an understanding of what's coming and maybe a little bit more foresight than like the average like Starsea light worker. But what happens is like, even if we know it, we can't always share it because people aren't ready to process that information. And so it's like a lot of releasing that information to people is just about gauging.

Are they really ready for it? Are they really prepared for it? And that's like just kind of feeling the collective outdated day. But as far as like for myself is concerned, it gives me a lot of time to prepare. It allows me to prepare for a lot of what the collective needs of me and what I'm gonna be going through. Cause I'm probably gonna be going through it well before most people do. So when I feel crappy, most people feel amazing.

Yeah, it's weird, right? It's pretty crappy.

It's so, that's been my experience too. Definitely proceeding this past, since January, I felt incredible through most of it. And then like right now, I think when people are kind of like feeling a little bit better about things, I'm going through this wave of like, holy shit, I gotta grow this much now. Like for what now, why? And it is kind of this like energetic front lines thing I've heard you mentioned. Cause I've said this a lot. Like I don't know who falls in this category. I'm sure a fair amount of people listening. But sometimes it feels like we, but like at least I process a lot of other people's stuff and sometimes I'm not even aware of who they are.

But I'm like, that's weird. Like I know me well enough to know that's not really my shit. And like again, everything is your shit. It's not, you know, discounting that reality. But like you can tell, like when you walk in a room, you know, and there's someone there who's like very like off and you feel it, that's not, that's an aspect of you. But that's another person. So it definitely feels like a lot of us are kind of like leveling up and like getting familiar with something that, you know, we need to even kind of strengthen our own inner resolve as things get weirder and weirder for people who aren't familiar with shit being weird.

If that makes sense, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And it is funky business. Cause now I'm talking to such a mixed bag of people who are so highly ascended and people who are like barely waking up out of like the program, you know, monkey mind programming, right? So like I try to be conscious in explaining the basics, but I'm at the point where I can't ignore the more like higher level stuff, you know? And now in the my videos, I'm just like, if you don't understand that, you'll get it later.

Like your problem.

That's kind of the vibe though. That's the vibe though. Like that's kind of how you have to approach things is just like if you don't get it, like I gotta keep it moving. You will definitely find this when you need it. It's nothing wrong with that, truthfully.

Yeah. Yeah, I just, I know it triggers some people, but it's like, eh, they'll get there. It's okay. It's fine. It just is what it is.

It is what it is.

But like processing other people's stuff, yes. I think we do that a lot. And it's interesting because, you know, maybe even just a year ago, when I would process someone's stuff, it would affect me a lot more than it does now. Like I was very aware I was doing it. And now I think I do it so much that it's just, it's just part of how I just transmute things.

Yeah.

Which I think is also just how it's easier for me to kind of just anchor energies and like timelines in the grid and everything like that. Like it's just, it's second nature for me now, like in the background.

Yeah, it's so interesting. I mean, I guess when I take the time to actually look at my evolution in that regard, that's also what I've done. It's gotten easier and easier to do as I've kind of just naturally accepted that some shit that happens, right? Rather than bucking it and fighting it. And I think that's also where people sometimes, especially like psychic or energy people, like if you fight this shit, oh man, this is not, this is not good. It's just like, you don't wanna do that. I know it's a lesson I continuously learned. I learned it with dead people, man. That shit just funnels. If I fight it, it eventually gets too weird.

And I'm like, oh, I don't know. I gotta listen. I gotta listen to what you guys are saying. I especially during readings, like 'cause I never, it feels like such a sacred thing for a lot of people who I think don't fully appreciate what death is in this timeline. That's one of the first questions I get when I tell people this world is a dream and you can prove it to yourself. They're like, what about dead people? And I'm like, they're there. I'm like, they're there. Can you imagine them talking to them in your head clearly and actually how they would respond? I'm like, that's them. That's actually them for real.

You're not crazy. But a lot of people just that thought is like, no, I don't think so. And it's like, okay, well, prove to yourself that in your imagination when you do that shit, always precedes this reality, like in terms of things that happen in the future and you'll probably be able to accept that. But I'm always like very cautious with like saying any like dead relatives or energies or speaking to people just 'cause I know it's like a sensitive. I'm looking forward to the days where people are just like, okay, yeah, that's what it is. Got it.

Well, this is gonna make you really happy 'cause I was meditating this morning and they gave me a download about that actually that that's gonna become very, very common for most people like moving forward. And I was like, oh shit, okay, that's kinda cool.

I should just tell you what else my spiritual issues are and you can tell me that you get downloads for those too because that's great. I've been waiting. I've been waiting for that one for a long time 'cause it's just so weird. And like, I don't know, like I think a lot of people must look at like people who speak to mediums and some of the more like bombastic ones or the like the past like kind of give a rep to all the others. Like it definitely makes like when something just happens to you over and over and over again and it's validated, it has such a more, more of a meaningful impact I found on people than like, you know, someone was like, I wanna talk to dead people.

So I'm going to, like it's just the different type of vibe and yeah, I think people are just like, it's happening is the truth. Like it's always happening. As far as I can tell, everything is happening all of the time, literally. So like, of course it's happening. And if you just kind of tune into that track in linear time, I think it's pretty useful.

Do you talk to dead people?

I'm kind of like you, where it's like, I really struggle with embracing it fully, but it's there. Like it's definitely there. And you know, like you said, like there's benefits to it and it's there for a reason as well. And especially with like my own family, I have family members that are like borderline ascension right now, which is like super crazy exciting. 'Cause you know, with my family, I've always been like the person who's like, been really into this and like very aware and like really into my abilities. And then they've been very much like, oh, it's a thing, but we don't acknowledge it.

So like now they're going through meeting their guides and seeing like our dead ancestors like off and on, you know? So it's like, it's really interesting. But that was also why they brought that up to me because it is gonna be so much more common place for people to be seeing dead people and talking to them and understanding that that's what's going on and that they're just always there. And that like you said, it's always happening that I'm basically just gonna have to like fully embrace it myself.

Yeah, I mean, if you don't, it just gets more uncomfortable. I guess is the only direct experience I have. Like, and it's just, and like I said, it is such a useful thing. I also think like during ancestral cleansing and purging, like a lot of these energies where like people just didn't act in their best versions of themselves. Like we have ample evidence in history that that happened even in this, just in this country. It actually becomes quite a useful skill to know how to communicate with ancestral people in your own family and otherwise just like geographically where you are because then you don't have to kind of guess.

It actually helps with trauma. It helps like a lot. So it is like a tool that I think, I think more people should familiarize themselves with. And I guess it's just happening is what your download is about too. I mean, like it certainly happened to me. So I definitely didn't ask it to bring it on. I was literally the last thing I wanted. Fuck, holy shit.

And like you said, it does help with trauma. Like, you know, with researching my family history, everything was a fucking secret. So like I really had like not much to go on. So I started researching and that actually helped me to get a little bit more comfortable in speaking to like my own ancestors very directly about some certain things. But that's also how a lot of secrets came out too. Like basically they were just confirming documents I found or like my own suspicions of piecing things together and they would just confirm it.

Right.

And then I'd go and confront, you know, the people who wanted to keep that all a secret.

Geez.

And then, you know, it's stuff that has to come out. It's stuff that has to come to light so we can just like get it out of our energy, get it out of the collective and be done with it.

That's the thing too. And I think that's the important lesson with this is uncomfortable with some of the shit maybe and the things that some of us have to go through with kind of like open hearts and open minds is like it does serve the function of clearing. Like you have to expose this stuff. The shadow doesn't exist to fuck your shit up. But it exists to like show you what to shed light on which is the function of light. So it's just, it is kind of this icky shit that we have to process sometimes. But like I've also found that those types of energies are really like some of the most powerful, you know, and if you can kind of just like call it a judo flip, just like flip them in the different direction, it's incredibly powerful and like potent opportunities for leveling up, especially like when we're talking about like healing shit for our families and healing shit for our ancestors and healing shit for, you know, anybody's ancestors theoretically like that.

That's a big kind of role to play until people really take more accountability for their own kind of state of consciousness. I think that serves like a critical function for all of us. So we just got to do it. It's kind of work. You know, I know, I'm like you, I just want you to be like happy and fun, like all the time and just like, you know, everything's great. This is a dream. We came here to play, which I really embody like 95% of the time and then you just get hit with some like collective and personal shit and you're like, ah, fuck, the fuck.

Yeah, yeah.

Tis the season. What do you, what do you think about this Neptune and Pisces? I know Neptune rules Pisces, it's going retrograde. Pisces is fucking, you know, like Christ consciousness and emotions and all this stuff. I feel like that's, that's kind of one of the more overlooked energies that coming, but I feel like it's going to have like a pretty, pretty significant role. What's your sense on that?

I feel like it's aiding the integration process. I think that's also why we're feeling it really heavy like this week 'cause Neptune's retrograding like what? Oh, tomorrow?

Yeah. (laughs)

Yeah, crazy, right? So I do think it's definitely aiding the process and I do think that any retrograde that's going on, it's also aiding Pluto and dismantling and bringing shit up to the surface as well. So it's helping with all of that, but I do think it's also adding this like, this probable time, like lower frequency timeline of like, of isolation and illness and all of that. So it's like, it's, you know, it's, and I talked about this in the Newman video where it's like, it's just about what we want to choose to be on.

Right.

Right, like it's just a choice.

Okay.

So yeah.

I just speak of my language. This is, and I think this is probably what we have to offer as much as anything else with all this energy work and talking about this shit is, it always is a choice. It really is, when you understand what consciousness is, what your function in this realm is, what you really are, you recognize like, you're constantly constructing, sustaining, and destroying your world. And if that's true, that means that there is a fundamental part of the process where you get to choose things. And it doesn't mean you get to choose the ways and means and exact circumstances all the time.

Although you can. It's that you're ultimately, you know, pointing the ship in the direction you want to go in. And I think like that's, you talk a lot about like stabilizing timelines and choosing the right ones. I mean, like, what do you, how do you kind of get people, not, I mean, it's the wrong term, but how do you reveal that truth to as many people as possible without feeling like, I mean, God knows I'm challenged on it enough. But like, really you can't do that without how shit works? It is actually for real. So how do you go about like kind of like, given that one to people?

Oh gosh, it, like, like you said, it's like people, people I think who are already like existing and like existing in that way of like manifestation and understanding what it is, like already know that. Like they already embody that. But if you've never done it, I think it's something that's so hard to wrap your head around. Like my mom is a master manifester and she always has been, even though she didn't realize that's what she was doing. So as a kid, it's like, she would get so mad at me because I basically wasn't manifesting. And she would basically always say, you just need to choose to be happy.

And it would make me insane because I didn't understand what that meant. Like in my mind, it's like, no, I am this and I feel this, but choosing that like reemphasizes that over and over and over. And actually the book of doors like dives into this so deep in like such a prophetic way kind of like Gematria, which is also getting a lot of popularity for the same thing. So the book of doors, just really quickly to get to the point, 'cause there's so much that goes on in this book. But the book of doors is a system that's derived from the Emerald Tablets of Thoth and Pythagoras' numerological system out of Egyptian priesthood.

Nice.

It's crazy.

Oh my gosh, it's crazy. - That's my shit right there. That's my shit right there.

Yeah, I was like right in the introduction, I was like shit, I gotta get the snow out.

Oh yeah, that's my real house.

But they go into the Egyptian alphabet and why it basically is alchemy. Like it's the epitome of alchemy, each letter has its own visual associated with it. And the visual, which is like the hieroglyph, right, gives a very specific meaning to that letter. And then that letter, depending on what the meaning is, is sometimes spoken, not spoken, because sometimes it's just an internal representation. And with speaking, anything that's spoken is an invocation of something. You're creating, which is why when it comes to hieroglyphs and the Egyptian alphabet, anything that is written is considered fixation of reality.

Right.

It's like, and it's like, oh my God. It's like, that's basically what it is. It's manifest, that is manifestation.

That's exactly what it is.

That is how we choose timelines. Yeah. - Yeah, yeah. That's why I tell people to write shit down. Like if they're really like have struggling with like that this is everything works, it's like you don't have to, but like even myself, like I sometimes even know what I'm doing. You know, I'll write down all these things. I am this, I am that, I'm balanced, I'm happy, I'm love all these things. And like just be aware when you do that, you're pinning something and fixing something in reality and you're putting yourself on a track towards that. So if shit gets really weird, after you start writing stuff down, like mmm, still on course, that's still like, you're getting to your destination.

This is a very thought-harmatic thing. Like, you know, words are reality. It's funny, like when I was far this off from like my coherent spiritual and mental state when I was really fucking out there, like too far out there, I thought words were meaningless. And I kept saying that to everyone. I'm like, words are meaningless. They don't mean anything. And now I realize like, of course I was like flailing them. Like they're incredibly powerful. They're like arguably one of the more powerful things we have in this reality. They combine sound, intention, you know, creation. Like it's very, that's it right there.

That's what spells are, so.

Yeah, like words are basically prophecy.

Yeah, they are. It's whether people believe them that actually crystallize them into reality. That's the real trippy thing, you know? It's like, when I say something, I'm sure a lot of readers know this. And I toe this line pretty carefully 'cause I don't like to just feed people narratives even if they're basically begging for them. But, you know, the power of suggestion when someone is in a loose in state for like an energy reading or hypnotic, any of this stuff, like the whole power is their power of belief in what you're saying and what you're feeding them. So that's why it's really like you have to be like, honor that when you're doing this stuff.

But like, yeah, that's the whole fucking thing. Like it's like there's not much else, so yeah.

Yeah, and I've noticed that with the New Earth frequency, like people who are already integrated or people who are trying to integrate, that awareness becomes very painful. Like the awareness of words and thoughts, you know, even when I was talking to my mom recently and in a more family stuff, more fun family stuff. And I had this truth, but it was like, I can't speak that truth 'cause it's the truth that I honestly don't want to like have in my reality. I don't got time to deal with that truth right now. It's really what it was. And it's like, I'm not going to speak that. I'm going to choose not to speak it because I don't really need that in my timeline right now.

Yeah.

What's the truth I'm aware of? It doesn't have to be part of my reality.

It's your choice, whether you want to experience and play it out here. I mean, I think it's the same way I look at feelings is kind of like the progenitor of thoughts. Like they come before, feelings are the same thing. You can feel a feeling, but to really engage with it and allow it to kind of dominate and out picture into your reality is a choice. That's what we're talking about. Like these are key moments in time, which we experience here, which is kind of cool. You know, these are moments where we actually get to direct this ship. I mean, I inevitably believe that everyone wakes up if that's what you call it, ascends.

They get to the point where they recognize they are literally everything, not only in this reality, but just in like every possible dimension. That's the only thing that I would in any way call close to destiny. What I think is totally made up or totally malleable rather is when that happens, how long it takes, where, why, all those things are completely up to an individual fragmented part of everything, but that's a wide berth in terms of freedom. Like that's a very, you have infinite basically choices to go from there. And yeah, don't discount like what your words and feelings like actually do to this reality.

And people wake it up to that. I think is it's either a rude awakening or just like one of the most ecstatic things that can happen in your life, for sure.

Yeah, I think people who have been super asleep, like it's rough. I think it's a very rough, painful awakening, very sober and kind of moment. But, and I talked about this minimum video for cancer that we do this as individuals, but we also do this as a collective, which is why I think the timelines are also so schizophrenic right now because once the collective stabilizes in their own integration, ascension, again, whatever word you wanna put on it, then due to whatever's going on in the collective on a mass scale, that's gonna be the global timeline, so to speak, that we're going to be anchored into for a while.

And I've gotten downloads about the possible timelines for the collective, but I also haven't been talking about it that much because I know that that is very, very malleable right now.

So malleable.

What it wants to choose, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I mean, I think for me what I tend to do is I pick the timeline where the things that are important to me happen and build in this kind of knowingness that that's the best timeline for the collective without, again, having to know what that looks like. So once shit goes wrong and crazy outside, my reaction is tend to be like, "No, this is perfect." And that can be taken as kind of like a cavalier, nonchalant or non-engaging way, like how dare you not scream about George Floyd, how dare you not scream about Trump? And it's like, you guys, it's not that I don't see it. It's not that I'm detached from society completely.

See it probably as much as anyone, but I also recognize if I've chosen the timeline that is best for me, and I've tethered that to what's best for the collective, as long as I'm feeling like I'm on track, then sure, shit, the collective is. That's kind of my like hack with this stuff.

Just, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, and I think that's the responsibility of people, of people like us. Like, and that's kind of how I look at it. Like, you know, some of my family, like they don't understand sometimes like why don't have like more people in my environment or people in my life or, you know, why don't I do more like 3D like things? And not to say that those things are bad, just to say like, I mean, those things are bad, but I have responsibility to hold a very high frequency. Like if I am at a low frequency, that affects everyone I'm connected to, which is not just the collective, but, you know, a lot of their higher selves and how I influence that carry the timeline.

Like, like, no, I have to be responsible in being in a high frequency as much as possible.

And that's like truthfully it's, it's ultimately everyone's responsibility, but I very much know what you're saying. I also love that we can talk about this shit and like just acknowledge that it's not just like an ego reinforcement, that like, you know, I'm responsible for a lot of people. It's like, nah, like we are. Like, I know this, I've seen shit happen, that like it's, it's not like, I don't want it, like, do you think I would consciously be like, yes, sign me up from my mood being related to like external reality for other people? No, I wouldn't choose that, but like, nevertheless, here we are.

Yeah, I mean, that should show everyone that that is ultimately their responsibility as well. And that also if people just follow the math on that one, you see that if you tune your shit up to high vibe all the time, real, like not just like the LA use of the word high vibe, but like actually tune, tune yourself up to a very high frequency and stay at that frequency. Look what happens to the people in your life. Look what happens to your immediate surroundings. Like really you start to like build this protective emanation of like light and harmony and love. And if everyone did that, what do you think this worth?

It turns into the new worth, like immediately. So it is this game. I think the trick is, and I know we're coming out of it a little bit, thank God, I'm sure it'll ramp up again, but you know, all of this fever pitch, COVID and fucking racial injustice stuff coming to the surface, it's so easy to look out at the world and engage with it only that way. Like shit that's going along, shit that's not working out, even in our own lives, the personal examples of things not going right or blah, blah, blah, blah. If you can just remember that this is like a pressure test for like a very good timeline and a very good life for yourself, you'd be shocked how quickly things flip around.

And even though like it feels like when we're in it, like the fever pitch of like protests and people dying, if you take the broader view of like just a year, like it's nothing, it's a flash in the pan. And I think that is like, that's something I think Buddhist and a lot of Eastern philosophies kind of nailed is this transient nature that we find ourselves all the time. Like things just move in and out, in and out. It's like a breath. And you know, if you can remember that, when shit is going fucking haywire around you, you'd be surprised how quickly you can stabilize pretty fucking badass timelines.

And I mean, we're doing it for as crazy as shit is. And I know our past weeks and days have probably been might've been fucking nuts, man, like just crazy, but still over on the whole, I feel pretty fucking great. You know, most of the time, 95% of the time. And it's not like a delusion. You know, I've been not feeling great at various times prior to this, but like, oh no, I definitely clicked some shit in the past year and a half. And there's an awareness of how to maintain that. And I think that's another thing we're basically trying to convey as much as possible.

Yeah, absolutely. And it's interesting too, like you were saying, like with 2020, and I think like moving to Sedona was a big part of it, like just to really choose a physical environment that aligns to reality that I need to create for myself and for other people. I've never been so calm.

Right.

I just feel really calm, I feel really happy. Like I feel really, even like when I feel incredibly shitty, like there was a whole month where I couldn't work and I was dealing with some like peeling of layers. And it was really just to get ready for the collective to go through that, which I think a lot of them are kind of going through now and at the tail end up for some people. But yeah, this is the most calm and self assured I've been about what's happening and where things are going.

Yeah, that's the best. I mean, it's putting in the work to like going through that stuff, like that onion peeling layer shit. I mean, a big theme I think for a lot of this is, and this is a lot of cancer energy that we're in like, it is this opening up those claws and like hard protective layer and like letting people in. It's a lot to do with the divine feminine. I know that's like a major energy that we're still in for a while. And I think as independent of gender, as we kind of open our hearts and feel and allow ourselves to be vulnerable, that's kind of the ticket right now for a lot of people.

If you want the quantum leap, I mean, I think a lot of people who are going to be alive for a few more decades, regardless of their spiritual kind of ascension or not, you're going through this shit. But if you want the quantum leap, if you really want to like just like level up, like level the fuck up, it's time to get like super vulnerable and like be very honest about, you know, what is working in your life? What isn't working? And like, what makes you feel good? Like you took the action of moving somewhere. I took the action of moving somewhere and, you know, and exiting a relationship that, you know, wasn't right for anyone, truthfully around it.

And, you know, these are big moves that people make. And I think a lot of times people just want the affirmation that it's like okay to do that. And like, if not now, specifically, when, like this is literally the time to be making these moves just because what other signs, I guess, are you looking for? I mean, like what would you be waiting for in reality to show you that this is like, this is it? Like you want to jump, you want to go to space, you want to be like a galactic being and live in a magical realm, like all the time, this would be your entry point.

Yeah. And like you said, just making those choices of things that will just make you happy. Like, and I know we've talked about this before, but like manifesting a happy timeline is just that simple. Like it's literally just, oh, this is making me unhappy. I will exit this now. Oh, I'm happy. Like, yeah, it's really just that easy. And then as you're happy, you make more decisions that just kind of enable that happiness. And it's all cyclical. Like if you're choosing things that make you miserable, you're just going to keep choosing things and make you more miserable, so.

Yeah, it sounds wrong, but it's not. It's just actually how it works. And it doesn't mean if you experience unhappiness on a happy timeline that you're doing something wrong. I think this is another important thing that like I've been getting a lot of downloads about is sometimes these experiences are literally there for us to basically like very clearly, like very clearly get a reference point for what we don't want. Like just like very accurately be like, hey, guess what? Don't want that. That sucks. Like that's something I don't want to either be doing myself or having someone else express. Like that it's pretty simple.

And like people don't, I know I didn't get that for a very long time because any type of dissonance, any type of disharmony, I'm like, this sucks. This is bad. Don't want any of that in my life, boom, boom, boom. And like, yeah, there's a function for moving away from it. But if you don't catch the essential wisdom that like, oh, you created that situation. It happened for a reason. It wasn't random. No one did this to you. You created dissonance. If you miss that, you'll keep replaying this shit until it happens. I like to use the third times the charm method that if I get caught in an energy, and it just always seems to come in threes for me.

And the threes can be decades apart, but the things come in threes. So if there's an energy that I'm meant to transcend and I don't just like get it immediately, it never takes more than three times. And I think that that's just a pretty good rule in life. Like if you express a behavior, like I had a behavior today where like, I was just very inconsiderate. Like I just, I wasn't thinking about my partner's feelings. This is how much of an asshole I was, just the full disclosure here. So three days ago at the beginning of Mercury Retrograde, I just wanted poker. Like I've spent all night while I'm playing poker with some friends and I won, and I was feeling really great.

I was just like, yeah, my God, I'm the best. I knew I was gonna win. I imagined it before. Just like riding so high, so confident. So we get in a car to go get, I think I was trying to get McDonald's. And I back up her car, which is a nice car, into a tree and smash up the back of it, like the window smashes. Yeah, and like just because she handles this in the best way any human being can handle anything. She basically just feels bad that I fucked up. You know, it's like she's totally cool about it. It's like, we'll get a fix. It's not a big deal, we'll deal with it. Flash forward to this morning.

And I'm like, yo, I gotta get this shit done. I have all these readings. Like you've gotta do it now. All called the insurance company. And she was just like a little slower paced about it. Way more like easy breezy, relaxed, kind of like cool about it. And I'm like, nah, I gotta do a blah, blah, blah, blah. So I eventually like we get in a little fight about it and then I leave, right? I go to my place here to like do these readings and just like, you know, get my day started. And it turns into like probably one of the biggest fights we've had where she's like, you know, maybe you should just spend the night there.

And I'm like, oh shit, I fucked up like real bad. Like this is where we're at right now. Like I fucked up and it occurred to me like after a long kind of like I went back there, I took her to the place like, you know, we made up. But like it occurred to me like, holy shit. I was really, I didn't even think that by me leaving, like she was left in the lurch and you know, it was just kind of a rude thing to do after like I was the one who fucked it up and she was really cool about it. But this was like a third example of me kind of not intentionally being inconsiderate but not recognizing how my actions affected me.

And I think the reason this one blew up so big is like this was the transcendent one. This is the one where it's like, okay, this little innocuous thing from my perspective, like I didn't realize I fucked up. I was like, why is she getting so mad? Blew up into this thing because like this is a dynamic that like isn't productive for any relationship. You don't want to be inconsiderate, especially with the people you love. So I bring this up as an example of like, this is something that I had to play out a few times before I really became aware of like what I was doing. And now that I have that awareness, like rest assured, like I don't, if I repeat it, then I'm just an asshole.

And that's a different type of vibe, you know what I mean? That's a different vibe than just being like kind of like a doovis and like who's caught up in his own bullshit. That's a very different thing. So yeah, I just think like a lot of these energies, a lot of these things in relationships in our lives and our careers, money things like they're coming up for us to review. We got Venus, Mercury and retrograde, Neptune's going in, just like everything. Like I feel like this is such a potent opportunity to make that shift towards the timeline we want. And like as long as you don't get freaked out by the chaos, it's actually like to our advantage to recognize that.

Yeah, absolutely. And I'm kind of excited for the dance of the masculine femme. Like, and that's a thing like now with everything going on, I feel so weird even saying masculine feminine. Like I know we have to label these things to help us identify at least as far as like 3D 40 realities concerned. But I feel like masculine feminine will fall away at some point.

Totally.

But the dance of what we consider to be masculine feminine energies is gonna be really interesting for the rest of the year. 'Cause we have Mars going home into Aries. It's gonna be there for the rest of 2020, which is kind of crazy. Like it's six months. That's six months of Mars being in its own energy.

Yeah, geez.

I wonder why we're fighting. I wonder why there's arguments before this happens. (laughing)

Yeah, I think I actually saw that too. 'Cause it's like, it's gonna move over at anytime a planet moves into a new sign. There's always some kind of like uptick of that kind of energy. And then Venus is gonna go into cancer in August, which we're gonna have Mars in very masculine energy and then we're gonna have Venus in very feminine energy. And there's gonna be a nice little balance for a while until Mars retrogrades. And then Venus is gonna have to kind of be a little bit more highlighted and kind of almost nurture masculine energy a little bit. And of course, it's all like with energy. Sorry, go ahead.

Feels like ISIS energy there feels like big time. Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, definitely, definitely.

Yeah, shit is gonna get real fucking cool. That's all I know. I know it's, I mean, luckily people who listen to this show, like they know already kind of the vibe that it is. So like people are like, why are they being so like cavalier about these big energetic shifts? It's like we're not, we're like just kind of excited that, I mean, this is how we move to the place that many of us have felt and intuitively known is just like a better way, objectively, subjectively. And this is just the process of how you get there. We like to think it's just this glorious straight shot, like amazing. And if you look at it from a wide enough lens, it is that, but if you really get into the nitty gritty, like there's dips, there's changes, there's permutations, there's failures, you know, there's all these different things embedded in it.

But I know you probably feel like, I do, like, I feel, I'd rather go through that shit and have something real and authentically amazing than some like weird facsimile that like you believe in because it's convenient too. That's just, not as fun.

Yeah, no, I agree, I completely agree. And like you said, people have, whoa, and I've experienced this personally, that a lot of judgment for my kind of cavalier attitude about like things going on. But it just has to happen, like it just has to happen. Like that's just how I see it. These things that people are, you know, seeing as this is terrible and this is awful and this is crazy and it's intense. It's like, it just has to happen. So it's just, to me, it's just another milestone of, oh, we're closer, oh, we're closer.

That's kind of how I like to view it as well. And I get some of like the cultural, like I also like, I say this to people, I have a pretty diverse listenership, I know. And like, I say this as like a straight white male, like having the position of shit is good and knowing that it is as a straight white male, it's a little bit of a job here. Nothing to feel bad about anyone for it, but like, shit is good. And if you find yourself in a position of privilege, this is something I've been really trying to like, figure out my thoughts on, especially as a lot of this, like racial injustice, just like systemic injustice comes up to the surface, regardless of that.

Just know that like, when you intuitively know how your reality works, you can rest assured that your success is everyone's success. If you feel that your success is at the expense of someone else's, then that ain't it, that's wrong. But like, if you find yourself in a position of privilege, whether as an energy reader or someone with money or someone with power, just objectively like, use it. Just use it for good. Don't feel bad about being in that position 'cause that'll fuck your shit up forever. Like you can be in this shame spiral, like oh, I'm bad. And like, I'm doing a bad thing 'cause I'm part of a bad system.

It's like, no, then turn into a Robin Hood. Turn into someone who's working from within the system to kind of dismantle it or repurpose it to something that's more constructive. Like, it's just, I say that 'cause I know I get these varying messages and I know we were speaking about a little bit. I mean, the whole Black Lives Matter thing was like crazy for a week just in terms of the messages I was getting. They range from like, thank you so much for your perspective. I really appreciate it. To like, you're a fucking asshole. Why don't you talk about this shit? Like, your silence speaks volumes.

And I'm like, oh my God, like first of all, I talk about this shit way too much. Like, I wish I talked about it less. And it's like, second of all, it's like, no, like, that's not how reality works. Like, you don't shame people into changing their behavior. I've literally never seen that work. Even dogs, like outside of like a Pavlonian response, it's like not effective. It doesn't actually teach them what you wanna teach them. But it is like, I just encourage everyone to maintain, your faith is nothing more than loyalty to the unseen world. That means when you get a vision or a premonition or a feeling, if you trust that and believe it, that's called faith.

And that's it. And that's the whole generative mechanism of this reality that we call Earth in this 3D world. That's like literally the whole game. So don't let other people or external situations fuck your shit up. And it also doesn't mean distance yourself too. Like, you know, hold the vibe that systemic racism and injustice is funneling up to the, and percolating up to the tops of people's consciousness to be dealt with. Not because it's like bad and something to feel bad about. I'm like, oh, it's so fucked up. It's like, no, gotta deal with this shit. So yeah, I mean, I do think I find myself kind of trying to embody and remind as many people, like it is, this is your life.

Don't run someone else's script, especially if it doesn't feel good. Why would you do that? It's stupid.

Yeah. Well, and it's funny because like, I don't know if I told you about this download about packs versus tribes. Do I talk about this download that I got? So again, can't remember when this came in. (laughs) Maybe it was at some time in the last month, maybe. Just a little bit more recent, but who knows? Anyway, so I got this download about pack mentality and that there's a lot of shedding of that that needs to take place and understanding the difference between being part of a tribe or it's true soul tribe where there is like an interdependent, supportive, dynamic going on, while you all have like your very interdependence, your own individuals and have your own roles.

'Cause we do each have our own role where each a little puzzle piece of different cognitive machine, so to speak. But with packs, it's a homogenous dynamic where we are kind of like absorbing other people's, like you said, scripts or ideologies, things like that. And we've all done that to some extent in our incarnation, whether it was family, like the way we were raised, right? Or different friends we've had or different work cultures we've had, even society is kind of like a pack in a lot of ways. So there's a lot of needing to shed that so that we really are standing in our own true essence, like our own true voice in order to actually choose and see the path and roles that are really truly met for us.

Like we're not able to really embrace that fully if we have all this like pack crap, like layered onto us in our own energy. - Yeah, so true. And I mean, I guess the trick is to just try to recognize when you're caught up in that shit. It happens to everyone. I think this is one of the gifts of being like sensitive that a lot of sensitive people kind of fight and don't like it first 'cause they pick up on so much shit and they can kind of feel like swayed by it. But like you have this awareness of how to individualize or like contextualize situations that are separate from the pack. And it doesn't mean you're like this lone wolf all the time just on the hunt.

I mean, on a deep level, that is kind of what it is. If you're, I wasn't saying it is got, like when you really get it, it is kind of that, but like initially you don't have to like go out forever and like Game of Thrones, the one wolf that's just out there. Like you can go back to your people. It's just, if you are the type of person where like a certain ideology that may be served you in the past like doesn't work anymore, you don't have to like distance yourself from those people in reality. It's just energetically you recognize that like, all right, that's an energy. I don't really need to engage with it anymore.

And that's like, people get, like the only time I really ever recommending people like totally cut off like energetic ties like fully is like if someone's physically abusing you mentally, any abuse, anything that like really is like violating your freedom and limitlessness. Like that's when you can like, you know, distance yourself energetic. Otherwise like just kind of try to get outside of the energy, play around with it, see what it looks like, and then try to figure out if it's something you want to integrate with. Like that's, that's life. That's what we did before we became human. We tested this shit out.

We weren't dumb. Like do we really want to do this? And we're like, oh yeah, I really want to do this. Then it's like, fuck, I did it. Why did I do that?

Yeah, and I think you're right. I think some, like, and like you said, sometimes it's just a matter of perception. But yeah, I don't, yeah, that was exactly what I meant. Like we don't have to like be alone in our solitude and away from people to be our unique selves and play our roles. It's just a matter of recognizing where you start and where the rest of your tribe is.

Yeah, tell me more about this book of doors though. I'm super into it.

Oh my God, I've been waiting for you to ask me. I was like, I was trying to like wait for like a nice--

No, no, no, no, I'm on it, I'm on it, I'm on it.

Okay, 'cause this book has been blowing my mind. It's like really tickling the nerd within me. So basically these two authors really teamed up with some Egyptologists. And it seems like these authors were already fans of Thoth to begin with. So they took the teachings of transmutation and alchemy from the tablets. And they also took the system of Pythagoras. And you know, well, Chris Pythagoras was a mathematician, but such an occultist as well. And I think that's one of the reasons I'm such a fan. To me, he's just kind of like the father of metaphysics in a lot of ways, at least mathematically speaking.

So the way this system works, it's based off of squares. So the alchem, Jesus, that word is so hard for me to say.

How chemical?

Thank you. (laughing) Energy of squares, which is basically taking a vibration, excuse me, multiplying it upon itself, right? So it's basically a table of 64 positions. And of the 64 positions, it's one through eight rows, one through eight columns. Each position is associated with the energy of that number. It's like one is totality, two is duality, three is unity, those basic laws. And each row is considered a family of gods, a family of deities from Egypt.

Fuck.

Yeah, you see where I'm going with it?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm so excited. (laughing) And they refer to as, I'm probably gonna botch these names. That's the thing with this book. I need to really read it over a lot, 'cause there's a lot of like just, you know, Egyptian language wrapped up in a lot of this. The naturu, I think is what they refer, is how you say that. Just to embody all of the gods and goddesses, including what's referred to as the primordials. So if we start at one, the first family, those are the primordials and there's eight of them. And then you go to the next row, that is the family of heaven, and then they're eight of them. So in each position, each position plays the role of that number within the number of that family.

So position one is totality, but within the primordials, that's the totality of totality. So the naturu of naturu. So that's night, that's the masculine version of night. And so in the first family, everything is cyclical within the system, right? There's no beginning, there's no end, it's all beginning and ending upon itself. So the first family are pairs of principles of night, obscurity, secrets, and oh, what's the last one? Oh, what's the last one? Oh shit, I can't remember the last one. So that's the first setup, and then you just go in order. So you have primordials, you have heaven, then you have fire, then you have moon, and then you have sun, and then you have wind, and then you have earth, and then you have water, which is underworld and water, which is basically death and rebirth, right?

Yeah, so this whole system breaks down the alchemical process that can happen using the energies of these gods and goddesses. So we were to put it in the context of the gods waking up. Every god and goddess in the system has to come in a specific order in order to actually have a full on death and rebirth process of reality. Oh, holy shit. Holy shit, yeah, I need to book. Holy shit, so that explains a lot about what's been going on, and I think some of our felt experiences that are weird to say the least, shit. I bet this is related to these waves of the collective coming on too. I think this also has to do with this responsibility factor, 'cause if you think about just historically when there were gods and goddesses, there were entire groups of people who'd be devoted to one or the other, and if you think energetically what that does as kind of gods come back online and recognize their own kind of power, induality.

And I do believe just to be clear, everyone is a god. I do wanna convey that. It's not your awareness of where you fit on that spectrum and how much you identify with that actually determines your role in reality, in this reality. So that's, I say that as well. Like I know people sometimes are like, how do I know if I am or who am I am? It's like first, just stabilize your shit. You'll know if you can accept that. If your world starts to feel like a gods world to you, then you're probably on the right track. If it still feels like you're getting knocked around constantly and have no awareness or control, you're probably not ready to step into that energy fully yet.

But fuck, I wonder. I wonder.

Yeah, and baby steps 'cause yeah, that's something I get asked all the time too. And when I tell people that it was a process for me, they're really surprised and it's like, no, it has to be a process. Like you can't just wake up and be like, you know, I'm set, like you can't just--

Oh, I tried to do it. I tried to do it. I didn't do it like with that awareness, but 20 years ago when this happened to me and I had the same kind of things come online, I just blew a fuse. Because if you let your limited human conscious mind, I don't say this in any derogatory or, you know, pejorative way, but if you let that start to think that it's running the entire thing, you will crash. Like you will crash, it's inevitable. There is a deep kind of resonance subconscious intuitive. It is a feminine driving force. I mean, this world, study your philosophies, your cosmologies, this world is always female, you know, whether it's Shakti, whether it's the concert of Brahman, like whatever it is, it's female, because that is what it is.

Birth and death is a female energy. You know, it's, it is. You can't escape, you can't escape it. It's just that when we're here, you have to kind of go down the path of living in something that's more powerful than what you perceive consciously. I do think people who really get this, though, are capable of building bridges between their conscious and subconscious, their masculine and feminine, their objective and subjective. Like that's, that seems to be like kind of the blueprint or like cheat codes for this reality. That's, at least in my experience, if you can connect those two, whether it's tarot, whether it's astrology, whether it's any type of energy work, like that, it's such a gateway towards understanding this stuff and being able to practically use it, which I think is the goal.

That's what everyone wants, you know, be able to practically apply this shit to their lives. Otherwise, it's just like, what are we doing? (laughing)

It's like, what are we doing, man?

Yeah.

Oh, man, ah, give me this book. So where does, like, give me some examples of the godsets, like do you have?

Oh, okay, yes. And this is also a blue in my mind. So the way that they organize them in the numerological part of it, like what God should go where, they actually didn't do it based off of Egyptian mythology. They based it off of alchemical principle. Like if the gods matched up in their alchemical principle, which is also based off of the Egyptian alphabet, which is like what these certain letters mean relation to what these gods are all about and what their roles are. So it's interesting because, I mean, you know, a lot of your listeners probably already know that like Jessa so states herself with Seqmet and Marcus Horace and all of that.

And so like we've all been connected, right? So me and Jessa have always had this thing with triads or triangles or like having like that special number of three or like having another person. Yeah, we've always felt that. And we never understood why, we just always knew that's a powerful number, right? So I'm looking at this grid and I'm looking to wear Seqmet Falls and of course, Seqmet Falls in a third position. Right, of course. And actually, hold on, let me, the book is right here. Yeah, yeah, whip it out, I mean, that's the whole point. And for me, Ra, Ra's kind of an interesting case. So Ra is actually the head of the family of the son, which is the fifth family, but Ra also has its own position in the family of heaven as the third position.

So all of these gods that fall in the third position are related to each other in that same way of uniting and having that association with triangles and triads and the power of three. And like, and how that can also aid manifestation and the process of transmutation. So it's funny that me and her both fall in the same position of three and we always like felt that with each other. And with Horace, that was always interesting because I haven't spent a whole lot of, I haven't spent a lot of time talking to Mark, but I love, you know, Mark says it.

Of course, of course, of course.

Hi, Mark, if he's listening. But I could always feel that there is something there and like we both knew like we're bird people and I just attributed it, oh, we're just bird people. Like is what I just attributed it to. And then I look at this grid and I'm like, holy shit. And he's number seven in the Ra family.

I was thinking so.

And I was like, oh, oh, you were?

Yeah, I was thinking seven, yeah. I get one in three and seven. Those are like big kind of like when they come up. I like 13 a lot. And yeah, seven, always had an affinity in threes. 'Cause threes, there's something about this reality where threes are incredibly important. 'Cause it's the transcendence of duality, I think. It's kind of like that lover's card where you have the duality with the masculine and feminine and then that angel kind of above. It's like that is what creates here. So I think for people who like recognize that, there's like a natural pull to that number qualitatively. It's also just like a very powerful number.

I tell this story a few times. There's this great book called "Psychian Matter" from Marie Louise von Franz. She was one of Carl Jung's like main disciples and translators and she tells this amazing story how there was this Chinese dynasty and they were debating whether to go to war with a neighboring province. So they took a vote and the vote was eight to three to go to war. So they chose not to go to war. And the reason they did that is 'cause three qualitatively was a more auspicious number. It had nothing to do with the amount of votes. It had everything to do with the quality of the number.

And three is, it's just such a potent thing in this reality to like get attracted to 'cause it is the generative frequency. I'm quite, I'm pretty sure. I'm confident in saying that at this point.

Yeah. - Yeah.

Oh, absolutely. And the system pretty much supports that as well. So like in the system, you know, if you look at the families, for example, the first family, the primordials, if you look at the generation of life and like how these cycles are supposed to work, that first position is potential energy, basically. It's the existence of the matter that we can do something with. And the second position is about amping that up, the family of heaven. It's about multiplying that potential energy and like getting it revved up in aggregate in order to be able to do something. That third position, which is fire, is actually the fragmentation and going from potential energy to kinetic energy.

Like kind of like the Big Bang, if you want to like associate it on that level, right? It's like the first positions are just about getting that energy ready to do something. That third position is it explodes into celestial bodies in order to- - That's the general ideas. Exactly. It's like the world of fuel totally, totally, totally.

Yeah, exactly.

Where are thought and ISIS, do you know?

Let me look, let me see. And that's, okay. So that's the other thing about this book. There's so many, so they use the ancient Egyptian terms and come to find out, 'cause this is something I didn't realize. A lot of the terms we have for these gods are not actually Egyptian.

Right, right, right.

They're actually from other cultures. So Faf is considered, I think it's Tehuti, I think is how they say it. Hold on, hold up. Let me look this up. Oh wait, did you just confirm for me?

No, no, but that sounds right to me because if you think about the spelling and the etymology of it, it sounds right.

Hold on, I know it's in here really quick. Let me look at this real quick. Yeah, Tehuti, Tehuti. In the fourth family, which is the moon, position of five.

Oh yeah, there we go. We got some time.

So the moon to the sun.

Yep, we got some turning. We got some turning from the moon to the sun to reflect it right, like to the generative, totally foundational. I love it, I love it. Fuck yeah, I need this book. All right, so that's clear, that's clear.

Oh yeah, I'm definitely gonna just send you. I think I'm just gonna send you a copy.

I'm gonna buy right now.

No, no, no, no, no, no need. I'm literally gonna go on Amazon and get this shit. Are you kidding me? This is like, this is my shit. You don't need this.

Well, and here's the other cool thing. It comes with a deck. It comes with a Oracle deck with.

I just got this animal card deck, the spirit animal deck that I saw you use. I don't know when, it's so fucking good. Holy shit, so good. Oh, here it is, the book of doors.

I love that deck.

Oh, amazing, I'm getting it.

It's so good, I love that deck too. It's like, I use it now, it's like one of my main ones. Holy shit, all right. Well, we've of course already spoken for an hour. This is how it goes. We always are gonna leave people wanting more. Where can people find you if they wanna tune into you? There's links and I'll be yacking about you all the time, but from your mouth to their ears, where can people find you?

So you guys can find me on YouTube and Patreon. Just look up Bommie Spirit or Water Baby Tarot, either way you'll find me. I'm trying to get Bommie Spirit to be a little bit more of like the frontal branding, so to speak. Or you can always check me out on Instagram or the websites @bommiespiritinc and Water Baby Tarot.

Yeah, and there'll be links to all this stuff and I'm gonna help you with all that too. That's a commitment. And now I'm putting it out in public so everyone can hold me to it. We're gonna get you in good shape with all that stuff where you wanna be. Let's end with three questions and one open end question. What's your favorite color?

Black.

What's your favorite number?

13, I don't think these have changed.

No, they haven't, but you know, what's your favorite animal?

Oh, oh yeah, this was hard last time too. Oh Lord, you know, I really, honestly, I really just been digging on the wolf and the eagle lately. I think those have been really like prominent animals for me lately.

I love it, I love it. I fucking love it. And last question, practical tip that's helped you in your life that you can share with people listening.

Let me try to think of a new one.

Yeah, I know, what people don't realize is like the last episode came out on Patreon, so only like some people heard it. Like everyone else is gonna hear this and she's like, they're gonna be like, what do you mean last time? This is also just a clever way of me being like, if you wanna hear the first conversation we had, which is fucking nuts too. That's on Patreon. So it's like clever tactic from a hermetic principle. Yeah, any practical tip, you can even use the same one, but you know, whatever feels right.

Hmm. Hmm.

Oh man, this shouldn't be this hard. Wow, yeah, I don't know why I'm struggling. Like this should not be this hard.

No, no, you're on the spot. You know, you gotta change up these answers. The collective is waiting for it. It does also just to be clear, like people have spoken about like having nice socks. It doesn't have to be a big. This is just literally anything that you're like, yeah, that has helped me in my life.

That's so funny. I hate socks.

I hate them too, me too. Me too, do you know? I literally, there are socks thrown about every house I've ever dwell in because I take them off like in random places 'cause I hate them so much. Wow, that's weird.

I'm not surprised. I hate them because I just like they just shouldn't exist. Like we don't need them.

We don't need them.

That's how I feel, like my feet are not supposed to be. That's what it is. I've always liked my feet should never be covered ever.

I'm with it. Like I don't even like to wear clothes.

So that's your practical tip, fuck socks. That's your practical tip. Look, you see how easy that was? Why are we wearing socks? There you go. Don't wear socks.

Yeah, yeah, though. And honestly, it helps you ground better as well. Like I guess it, maybe that is what it is. Maybe if it just always sense that. Like that's just a part of my body that has to touch the floor and the earth and all of that.

So, amazing. This is super fun. I'm sorry. I always feel like I'm cutting our conversation short because I feel like they're like infinitely long conversations in reality. Like we're always having them. So I feel like whenever I like stop a conversation for a podcast or something, it's like, wow, that should have been like another 10 minutes. (upbeat music) (upbeat music)

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