Rodin from Waterbaby Tarot + Bomispirit

(upbeat music) ♪ Oh, you are an inch inland ♪ ♪ I don't know where you're coming from ♪ ♪ Oh, you are an inch inland ♪ ♪ I tell the world you seem to change ♪ ♪ I tell the world I tell you what's wrong with your heart ♪ ♪ At name, I tell the world ♪ ♪ I'm seeing the change ♪ ♪ I tell the world I tell you what's wrong with your heart ♪

Welcome to Synchronicity. We got a power pack punch. Peppasode didn't really think that one out. Rodeon is the guest from Water Baby Tarot at Tarot. That's one way to say it. And Bommie Spirit, Bommie Spirit, Bommie Spirit. She's the coolest. I love having conversations with her. She is also probably the best energy reader I've come across ever. That's saying something, I like energy readers. She's just the, she's just on her shit. I don't know how, we talk a lot about what she does in this episode. There is everything you would want on something you'd be getting on election day in the United States.

Do we want to talk politics? No, should I put in a buzzer sound? Eh, no, we don't want to talk about that. Right, everyone has their preferences, their perspectives. I put stuff on Twitter. People yell at me. Some people like it. Some people don't. It's okay. We're okay. It's all right. We're going to be okay. No matter what happens, it's not, it's going to be okay. I promise you that. And you can be, well, it's not going to be okay for some people. Well, yeah, it's okay, but that's going on all the time. And think about that all the time and do something about it. Internally make the shift is what we know.

I like to say on this. Take accountability for your world. Think lovely thoughts. Well, that's negating the suffering of the world. Okay, just fucking chill out with that shit for a little bit. Focus on your internal stuff. Do a little judo flip internally and see what happens externally. That's all I'm saying. It's going to be okay. Anyway, we talk about a lot of stuff. A lot of dead people stuff. Speaking of dead people stuff, speaking of the number 12, we didn't speak at the number 12. Finally, on the streaming sites, you will have access to my songs 12 and shout out to dead people. They're hitting all the streaming sites.

Later this week, artwork courtesy of Rameen Nasar, that shit is dope, I'll share it later this week. He's the coolest. And for patrons, they have access to those songs now. So there's that. That's, I mean, I don't need to hype up this episode more than if you know who Rodin is, you know how legit she is, how cool she is, how just fucking on top of her shit she is. It's the only way I can say it. Doing powerful stuff always brings up shit I don't know about reliably. Just always learned about Jerome Arizona today. Didn't know shit about that. It's a lot of weird dark vortexes, held portals. So are you into held portals?

You're gonna love this episode. A lot of creepy held portal stuff. And good times, you know, held portals in good times. That's what we like to talk about on this show. So you're gonna enjoy it. Hang in there, I know it's a crazy day. Why do you think I'm releasing an episode on a Tuesday? I got shit I gotta do. Fucking woke up at five a.m. this morning. Get this shit done. I didn't record at five a.m., I recorded at one p.m. It's a pretty normal time Eastern. Daylight savings, that's dumb. You just, I think what people need right now is they needed to be subjected to darkness more. They're like, you know what, we're feeling weird.

We don't know what's going on in the world. Can it just be dark in the Northern hemisphere in forever? Now can we do that and make it horrible until December 22nd when we get some relief? Is that what, come on. That's just the construct I think we can get rid of. Personally, just my stance on it. Is there anything else? Like Miami Dolphins, anyone watch that? Didn't even make sense. Toa, great, love him. Didn't show him why this is a rookie, it was first start. It's okay. How'd they win that game? It was like 145 yards of offense. How little do you care about this? It's not my concern at this point.

The Dolphins are good again. That means we're moving into a timeline that is unpredictable. It's uncertain. There's no baseline anymore. The Dolphins should suck. They don't suck anymore. The Patriots are bad. There's no Tom Brady. We've moved into a different timeline. It's okay, just accept it. That's how we use, if you want like, you know, in like Inception, there's the top that spins. And that's how they know when they're in the top level reality. The Dolphins sucking is that top, that's the spinning thing. It's not spinning anymore. It's, we're not in top level reality. That's all I'm saying.

Or we are. Or we think we are. I don't know. Shit's good. Enjoy it. Everything's amazing. Big thanks to Rodin. Go subscribe to her on YouTube and Patreon. She's the fucking best. So, without further ado, here is Rodin. (upbeat music) Hey, can you hear me okay? I can't hear you. Let me turn down my headphones, hold on. Oh, sorry. It's not your fault. That's my headphones were jacked up. How are you doing? I'm good. That's the right answer. That's the right answer. Yeah, I mean, you know, with the way things have been, I mean, it's just been a crazy, I think time for everyone, but I'm like ending a couple of really big cycles, starting some really big cycles.

Nice. Yeah, so I'm good though. I am good. Nice, me too. Yeah, I think that's basically what is going on in a lot of ways. I think a lot of like, you know what I was getting a lot in tarot the past month? I think it stopped coming up so much, but was a 10 of pentacles reversed. It was just like such a 10 of pentacles of a reverse energy, I feel like, for a while, because like there were these big cycles that were coming to a close. And, you know, depending on where you are on the spectrum of like accepting that or allowing that to happen, that was either like a nice thing or a bad thing. I hate to use those terms, but like, it definitely felt tumultuous for like a lot of people.

I know it's been nuts. Yeah, the two swords was coming up a lot. I mean, granted, I did take like a sabbatical, which was so hard for like happy stellium in me. 'Cause like, you know, September, I felt like all that Virgo energy, like people were ready to like get shit done and just like work really hard. And I was definitely in that mode. And I set up like a crazy schedule for myself and my parents, my family was visiting the first week of October. And I'm like, I'm just gonna knock out everything beforehand. And the last week, I'm in the middle of everything and I could feel it. Like I could feel like they wanted me to stop.

Then they started messing with my videos. Yeah, yeah. I know how that goes. I fucking know how that goes. That's the worst. Yeah, it was so frustrating. Like Capricorn, especially they're really messing with. Like I literally did it like twice and then both times the file was corrupted. So there was just nothing. And then even trying to upload, nothing would happen. So I was just like, you know, okay, I get it. I get it. You need me to stop. And then I was talking to a friend of mine who's actually a shaman. And she's like, you know, you need to stop working. And I was like, oh, entirely? Oh, oh, oh.

Oh, oh. It's hard sometime. It's hard, but I mean, it is a necessary part of doing this type of stuff because if you don't do that, and even if it means you don't rest that often, it still is a mandatory thing that people have to do. And like, I stumbled across something. Someone said, I think it was in a TikTok where they're like, rest is a right, not a reward. It's not like something you get as like a treat for yourself. It's like, no, you just actually have to do that. And like, I just know from watching your stuff, which me and my partner are basically addicted to, she has a question she wants me to ask you later.

But it's really powerful stuff. Like if you accept these readings for what they are, like they weave together so intricately. And like you're clearly tapping into like a lot of collective energies. I mean, it stands to reason that you would need to pull away sometimes, even if like consciously you don't want to do that. Like it makes a lot of sense that that is something that would need to happen. Oh yeah, absolutely. And I just had, like you said, it's just something you have to do. So I just surrendered and I did it and I try not to think about it. And then immediately I was like plunged into this really intense deep, deep inner work, even deep from by my standards, which is like kind of saying something as a Scorpio.

Yeah, so I didn't really work for like weeks. I actually just kind of got back into a little bit of a routine. And you know, a lot of this work like started taking on like physical components because it was just a lot. And then I did something I don't normally do. And I'm sure some people are going to be like, you don't do this. I don't really seek out like help with other light workers, like for work on myself. For a number of reasons that I'm sure other people kind of can resonate with. It's like exposing your energy that way to somebody, especially like do it. - It's a very precious thing. Yeah.

Yeah, it's a very precious thing. And you know, sometimes it doesn't exactly, you know, go the way you expect it to. Or sometimes people just have too much access. And I have so much access to so many people. It's like I feel like I have to be really, really careful of that. And I got to a point where I was like, all right, I'm doing it. I clearly need to do it. I need like some assistance. And it was pretty mind blowing. And it really helped me a lot. So it was kind of funny. She's like, you know, you process stuff really well, but you don't like totally release it. You're like a snake that shut all these skin layers and you're dragging them around.

And I was like, okay, yeah, that kind of makes sense. So I've been feeling a lot better and just like doing a lot of that kind of work. So it's good, it's good.

That's really interesting analogy there of like not of like holding like pro... 'Cause I feel like I do that too. I process and we've spoken about how we're kind of of like mind and a lot of things related to this. But like it does feel like I have this ability to quickly process things like really relatively speaking to other people and just internally. And I recognize that. But I have noticed in the past three months that like when it comes to like really these patterns or these energies or whatever you want to call them, there is, there needs to be some added extra effort related to like fully releasing some of this stuff 'cause it can really kind of like wind its way deep into our like being and wow, that's powerful.

Like what themes you don't have to be specific if you don't want to, but like what themes have been coming up just related to like the work that you've been going through personally.

For me, it was a lot of layers of just insanely deep inner child work. Like it always relates back to inner child at some point, right? But God, it totally blew my mind. I mean, especially in relation to like my dynamic of like what I actually felt as a child and what I took on as a child, especially obviously in relation to my parents, but how that like really kind of formed these really crazy dynamics with people. Like this year, I mean this year in general, I think people learned a lot about themselves. But this year something that was really highlighted for me is I've always had obstacles with connecting to women specifically in the healthy way and like having those healthy feminine dynamics.

And you know, I always thought it's like, oh, you know, women have that trouble. But then I realized it's like, no, I take on this like very masculine energy with them. And so it's like I almost kind of play like a masculine dependent boyfriend kind of surrogate. And what happens is they become too dependent on that. And then it triggers like the codependent abandonment stuff. And then there's usually some kind of abrupt ending where I have to like really separate myself. So understanding that is really big and where that comes from. Understanding like my voice a lot was actually really interesting.

Like the way I communicate and connect with people, like I'm really good at getting into other people's energy. I'm really gonna make them feel really comfortable, but I have a lot of like energetic shielding and they don't have any access to me 'cause I just don't allow it. So it does create a little bit of these one-sided relationships just because energetically, that's exactly what's going on.

You have cancer placements?

Yeah, cancer rising.

Cancer rising, it makes sense, adds up. Well, I mean, I totally get that too. I think this year, this past year and a half because of like personal and just collective stuff that's going on. Like I think I basically like tore myself open and became about as vulnerable as I was capable of being 'cause it's constantly, constantly doing it. And I have found that like you reap a lot of rewards. I also was someone who didn't like to ask for help and I like kind of made a commitment last year to really get readings from a lot of people in the community and kind of open myself up but also go in with kind of like the foreknowledge that like, I'm protected, I'm gonna be okay.

Like whatever happens here, I'm not gonna be like shielding. I'm just gonna be open but guarded in like a protective kind of cool way. And I was blown away at how much insight that everyone across the board, regardless of their modality kind of gave me. And there is this like key kind of energy that I feel like a lot of people are being faced with now, whether it's triggered by kind of abandonment or trust issues or security. It's like, do you want to strengthen who you are fundamentally so you can move towards what you actually really want to be? And like who you are in like a very deep level or are you gonna let those things kind of continue?

Which a lot of people, and it's not a judgment, dominate your life. And I think this vulnerability kind of surrendering energy and acceptance is like one of the most powerful things I think I've encountered. And it's just like, I don't know, today even, like we know today is a pivotal day recording this on the United States, but like I was just reading even Jess's soberish group there on Facebook, which I kind of, I really enjoy that community. I gotta say it's the only reason I'm on Facebook now. They were saying it feels like kind of a new shift into like a new kind of energy that people can sense regardless of outcome, which I think is like a key thing here.

And I don't know if it feels like people are kind of facing this shit in order to let it go rather than just facing it to like be like, oh, there's that thing again. Know what I mean?

Yeah, I feel like we are actually moving into a time of deeper sincerity. Like, and I think we're gonna have waves of this where it's like more of the stuff that, you know, we don't deal with, right? It's just gonna feel differently each wave. And then once that's like process and release, it's just like the level of vulnerability and sincerity and authenticity gets deeper and deeper and deeper. And I was channeling this, excuse me, I was channeling this for weekly messages on my Patreon. And the way I was feeling it, I couldn't even describe it. I mean, we've kind of had this conversation of like, how words just don't like do justice completely with what we're feeling.

And I just couldn't describe how deep that vulnerability is gonna be running moving forward. Even the way we communicate, like I was trying to give an example of like, how I was feeling this. Like, you know, in a lot of conversations that we have with people, people have this like tendency to go, you're like this, you do this, you're making me feel like this. And I think that's gonna go away. 'Cause it is like basically telling someone your reality isn't your reality. Like basically projecting your reality onto them, even if it is saying it like in that kind of a simple way and kind of changing it to, okay, my reality is my reality.

How can I communicate my reality without like telling someone it's theirs, if that makes any sense.

No, it makes total sense which is what we're constantly doing like my understanding currently and has been for a little bit now is that everything outside in our external reality is essentially our own projection of how we perceive this world to be. So what I've been doing recently, because it seems to be working, is if you hold a conception of someone in your reality who's doing a certain thing, you're essentially like making them run out that role. And this weaves together in like a very intricate way because it's completely dependent on our like conviction, our faith, our belief in what is going to happen in reality.

And this creates a lot of circumstances that if we just look at the external world gets kind of confusing for lack of a better term, it's just like what the fuck is going on. But if we can start to like internally withdraw those projections, take accountability for every single thing in our world individually, we start to recognize there's like a broader kind of control mechanism that's at play here that allows us to shape like a fundamentally who we are and what our experience is, but in a broader sense kind of collectively what's perceived in experience. And that seems to be something that clicks in certainly in waves, but it's also like, you know, it comes with the full spectrum of emotion.

I think that's something that is always to be remembered. Like we come here not just to be blissed out. If that's all you want, it's totally achievable. That's, I just wanna say that. That's not something that like, oh, we shouldn't do, totally achievable, but a lot of it comes here to experience like a wide spectrum of emotions, both what, depending on our relationship to them, we would call positive and negative. And if you remember that this experience never seems hopeless or power, like you have no power. And I think that that's like the crux of what's kind of coming out here. It seems like this slamming together of masculine and feminine energies is giving people the proper perspective depending on where they are.

Eventually, I don't know. It's taking a, it's a slow track through this shit. I'll tell you.

Well, and I think taking the observer position is so helpful in that too. It's like, I think that really helps people too. Excuse me, kind of ground into the now. Oh my God, grounding. That's been, sorry, I just realized that's like grounding's been a huge thing. It's like the last month for everybody, even for myself. Like I've made it such a point to go out every morning and just sit on a rock, lay down on a rock if I have to, no matter how long I have to until I feel like I'm fully grounded. And if I miss a day, it really, really throws me off. And I was trying to explain this to people. It's like the more grounded, like truly energetically grounded you are into the earth.

Like the more you can handle going up really high. Like the more you can handle these higher frequencies and not feel like you're not really here and not feel like you're scattered and et cetera, et cetera. And I find people who aren't doing the grounding, they suddenly feel cut off like from spirit. And it's like you're not cut off. You're just not integrating it into your body and into earth. Yeah.

Think about like a space mission. Like if you're going all the way out into like the outermost reaches of the galaxies and the universe, you're gonna probably want to stop on a few planets and stars along the way. You don't want to just like wander through space forever. That's like, you're gonna feel weird. You know what I mean? Like chill on Venus for a little bit. Have a good time. Like it's not so bad.

Yeah, no, the grounding too. I mean, I've actually found myself, which is atypical of me big time smoking tobacco, rolling my own cigarettes and smoking.

Oh wow.

And it's, I never do it, but I found it to be a very grounding kind of connective practice. One of my friends just tipped me off. There's this woman who's like making these sacred tobaccos and I just ordered some and it should be here any day. And I'm pretty excited about it because I'm noticing this like groundingness and connection to the earth is kind of, or feels like to me, like emerging of spirit and the physical world. And if we can kind of like ground those higher ideals or whatever you wanna call it, celestial realms into this world, we're gonna need to be pretty present here. We're not gonna be wanna be off in space disconnected from the rest of the world, which is why I think like these flashpoint events, like elections and all the other weird stuff that's happened this year exist.

It is to kind of tether us to the place we are in 'cause like we're supposed to be here. We wouldn't be here otherwise.

Right, exactly. By the way, I hope that the thunder and lightning around my house is not messing with the sound at all.

Totally cool.

It's very crazy that's happening as, you know, today of all days. And you know, even speaking on the election a little bit, like that's, it is a weird event, right? Because it's like, and maybe I'm just in the observer, observer position right now.

Interesting, I said, "preserver." (laughing) You know, I took my walk around the neighborhood and it's like, I saw people voting and it's like, you know, obviously I'm very aware that it's going on and I'm very aware that it is like, it's this pivotal timeline moment.

Yeah.

But it's like, I don't feel in it. Like, yeah, I guess I'm just in the... I keep saying "preserver," it's so weird. Yeah, I just like I'm in the observer position of it and just kind of like anticipating the fork and the timeline and just like, where is this gonna take us next? Which is like, yeah.

I poked the bear and get yelled at on Twitter by my friends. (laughing) I played devil's advocate and like, I think most of them, and maybe I'm just testing my friendship with people because they're like, what the fuck is the matter? But like, I had a conversation with Jess on the podcast and Romine where I was like, I'm not voting. And it's, and I have reasons. I'm not just like, I think the main thing that I come down to on this election is that the more I think about the external elements that are involved, then it's just like, who's gonna be present? What's gonna happen? And depending on your local initiatives, that's totally dependent.

There could be plenty of positive ones. But to me, I just, the more I think about it, the less interested that I am in it, I'm like, there's an energy behind it that's fascinating to me, that this is why I pay attention on any level. But the actual substance and material kind of facade of what it is, like, I can't even like juice myself up about it anymore. It's like something you used to really enjoy eating that was like overly sweet. And then you have it now and you're like, what the fuck, how did I ever have this? How it feels.

How'd I ever eat fried Oreos?

Yeah, I could eat some fried Oreos, I'll tell you. I'm gonna be ready.

No, I completely agree with you 'cause like, that's gonna how I've always been too. I've always been, you know, very adamant of like, hey, like, you know, you should vote because it is a right and, you know, there was a time where not everyone could and blah, blah, blah. But, you know, like you said, it's like, with what's going on and how things have been, it is really hard to feel like I should be doing it. You know, and even this morning, you know, I was kinda on the fence, like, maybe I should, maybe I shouldn't vote this time, maybe I should. I was going over all the initiatives and everything and the propositions and I'm like, you know, I just like, I don't believe in any of the candidates.

I don't think.

Yeah, it's, yeah, it's like, if I don't believe in, in either of them, in any of them, and even the propositions like for the state, it's like, they're not, we don't actually don't have that many this year, there was like two. And even then, it's like, depending on what happens on a national level, it's probably gonna be a moot point. Anyway, yeah, I just, yeah, I just really don't feel it. Like, if I vote for anyone, I'm not gonna feel good. I'm not gonna feel okay. It's like, why do it? Also, to be completely honest with you, I'm still like crossing my fingers that we have a crazy twist where it's just such a crap shoot that we just decide not to have a presidency anymore and then the Senate gets to run everything.

I love the wide-eyed optimism on that. I will, I'll go with you to that timeline because it sounds amazing. I just, I think that probably evolves in like a way that isn't like a cataclysmic event. It'll be like a slow unfolding of people like, what the fuck is going on? But I think that would also have to dovetail like with the financial collapse. Which I do think is somewhat imminent on a macro level, but I don't know, all these systems, you know, the cracks, people have seen the feet behind the curtain, you know, and they know something's up. So it's just like only a matter of time and linear time until it plays out.

But maybe that's why we can't get juiced up about it because we recognize there's like other major kind of veils to fall and that is probably more in essence, like symbolic of what's actually going on than like who's president or like what initiatives pass. Like, I don't know, I got gassed up over we being legalized in the city of New York for like three, four years in a row. And it's the same shit. It's like there's, it's always the same shit. And I don't like to believe those types of things. And I don't love to just take the evidence of my external senses, but like to me, weed is legalized when like everyone you know is smoking it and has access to it.

I don't need to say the government saying like, hey, this is now legal and you can sell it through these particular stores. And I think that's why I withdrawn a lot from the political realm recently. But I will say like energetically, there's a lot going on. I think people, you know, with their fears are projecting them out into the world. And until they kind of redirect that and look at like you, it sounds like you were doing this work and are doing this work about your own shit. I know my stuff was like abandonment. I was having major abandonment. I got triggered so much in like the past six months.

It was like mind blind. I was like, I don't know if I can tolerate this. And of course you can, but like that shit is what you need to go through and do. If you actually want to focus on the things that you care about, you know, like what you're doing with your time, what you're doing with your world. Like that, that seems to be the underlying message with this stuff. At least that's the one I've found.

Yeah, I definitely agree with that. Like, especially like you said, like the crazy work that you kind of have to do to get to that point, right? Excuse me. A big, it's funny that you're mentioning abandonment. 'Cause I know abandonment is like a big one for a lot of people, right? And for me, like something I didn't realize about like just my existence, like when I was a kid, like there was no space for me, like in my childhood. And so it was like, I didn't really, like my essence couldn't really exist. And so it's like a lot of my work was just like, not only needing to recognize that, but also like needing to kind of bring my essence up from the depths of wherever it's been.

And like start letting it grow, start letting it kind of expand and develop. So that was like, that was kind of a heavy one where it was like, oh shit, like my whole like, you know, suppose it essence as a kid, at least expressed was not me or mine at all. Like I wasn't even there.

Fucking a, I know what that's like. I think a lot of people went through that who ended up or are doing kind of like any energy work, any reading stuff, any transmutation things. Like I think there's a relationship there. And I think maybe this is kind of like that loop being closed in a lot of ways 'cause like it does seem like the childhood stuff like you were saying is just like, it's all there for everyone. And I think I had suppressed that for so long in my life. I was just like, nah, it didn't affect me. There was nothing there. Like anyone felt like that. I didn't feel like a trick. But then when I really started to dig deep, I was like, oh my God, what, what, holy shit.

But it is rewarding. I wish people like they can hear us laughing and like having a good time about it because when you do go through it, the stuff that's revealed to you about like how your world has come into being and like how just these patterns or energies that you can be like blissfully unaware of in some regards, but then like start to like run your life. Like you really can identify, put awareness on them, withdraw your attention from kind of the patterns that are maybe not giving you what you desire or what you wanna be doing and then redirecting it towards those things. That seems to be like a critical pre-rec for like building whatever seems to be coming.

I think like God only knows in the next like 20 years what we're gonna experience based on 2020 sounds insane to even think about it. But like it does feel like I'm, again, I think we've spoken about this. I'm very optimistic about the future. Like yeah, it feels good. Yeah, I agree. And it's like, you know, when I've tried to, oh God, the tapping in thing has also changed so much. Like six months ago, when I would tap into 2021, I could feel like a massive struggle. Like it would be harder, but it's like things would be okay. And as we've gotten closer, it's like I feel more and more optimistic about it.

I feel better and better about it. Like it's not gonna be as hard as we think. Will there be some more changes? Yeah, of course, like there's gotta be, there's no way there isn't going to be, right? But also because the timelines are like, I mean, time always folds in on itself, but I feel like the rate that that's happening has been like so exponential. Yeah, that it's like you really can't say anymore what is energetically gonna be taking place. 'Cause it's constantly adapting and constantly changing. So it's like, that's also kind of a thing I've had to get used to. I've had to get used to adapting how to function differently.

'Cause I'm so used to functioning of, I can tap into the next three to six months. And then based off of that, I can adjust accordingly, but not being able to do that, like kind of left me feeling like I didn't have a compass anymore. But that's also kind of adapting to this new 5D physical reality, right? Where it's like, you really are just supposed to understand that like time is constantly happening, like one giant moment, as opposed to linearly. So it's like making that adjustment I think is important for everyone, especially if you've always been intuitive. It's like, it's kind of crazy for a loop.

Yeah, it really does. And I mean, I've been talking about it explicitly, I think publicly for a long time now and just throwing it out like time doesn't exist the way we experience it. It doesn't mean we're not experiencing it like that. We see people grow up, we grow up, but it does mean that these energies move through a construct called time more than like we play these things out over time. And I think when your direct experience is able to kind of accommodate that, and you can still kind of like move through time, like a river, it's pretty great. It does work to your benefit as long as you can remember that.

If you don't remember that, I think time then takes on this specter of like limitation or, you know, kind of something that tests our patients. And I do think like, what a, what a mind fuck for the world that has almost predominantly and exclusively been based on linear time for at least the past 2,500 years, at least. I mean, maybe longer. That's a real mind fuck for people. But that is like when you, the way like you do astrology stuff, that's where that energy, which does incorporate time in a lot of ways really does kind of reveal these like cycles, these like cyclical movements that seem to be providing for those who are open to it, kind of a better, higher perspective on what all this shit means and kind of what its function is.

There's a question in there somewhere. (both laughing)

Yeah, astrology is kind of interesting when you think about interns of like what time is and like how we understand it. 'Cause like you said, like astrology, it is based off of linear time in some aspect, but it is also cyclical. I mean, even the way energy moves is a spiral and technically cyclical. Like, and I was actually on my walk, I was thinking about Mars retrograde, how it happens, like every like, I think it's like every two years or something like that. And I was thinking about that. Like every two year mark for the last 30 years of my life, like what has been going on. And it is like, it is a pattern.

Like every two years or so, I have like, I take on some like drastically new thing in my life or some, or I'm pushed into some drastically new thing in my life. Like two years ago, it was tarot. It's like doing my tarot channel. Two years before that, it was grad school. Two years before that, it was like, you know, basically I was starting to like live out like all my own no roommates. Two years before that, I was graduating college. Like, you know, like every single, like, you know, consistently, every single two years. So there is something repeating about time, but that's also why I fold in on itself.

Yeah, it always does. I think that's amazing if we can grasp the power in what that really means. 'Cause that means any state, any kind of perspective or emotional or spiritual state that you can perceive, you actually have access to, you know, it doesn't mean your perception of it is gonna be the same all the time. You know, your circumstances will change based on what you're feeding yourself. But that's like the quantum, I feel like that's gonna happen a lot for people. It's the recognize that like, holy shit, this is my life. I actually can internally shape my external reality by doing that first, changing how I feel about things and then allowing that to shape my reality.

I think, I think that's a big shift that a lot of people are kind of slowly beginning, not even slowly, it seems like that's also ascending. I don't know, maybe that has something to do with me. Yeah, I can about it all the time. (laughing)

Well, I mean, it gets easier when you work through, when you, the more you process fear, right? I think the more you understand that process, they get rid of that veil, you know, in a lot of ways and just learn how to deal with it when it comes back up again, the easier it is to do that. Yeah, but yeah, I agree. I mean, people are learning it, but it's definitely in their own time, for sure.

And always love.

You know, and I also wanted to ask you.

Yeah.

As far as your mediumship is concerned, has that changed at all on the last month or so?

I mean, it has in the last month. I've been getting a lot of ringing in my ears. Again, I am what you would call a very reluctant medium. I will say that what tends to happen if I don't like listen, if I don't like pay attention to like energies or who or what I think it might be, I will get like explicit reminders in reality. And so that starts to happen, you know, with like weird synchronicities or like odd things. I do feel like a lot of female like matriarchal energy has been coming through pretty clearly in the form of my grandmother, but also just like in general, even in my readings that I'm giving with people, there seems to be this kind of like feminine presence that's like relatively calming for most people.

I don't usually bring it up in readings 'cause I don't like, I don't do like mediumship stuff like that, but yeah, I mean, it's been, I think the doors, I think once I plunge through a lot of that fear, a lot of like fucking just like deep shit that just felt like gunk that needed to come out. And no small part to your readings too, like they're fucking phenomenal. I know for like so many people who are actually tuned in, like I was like, this is like, people if they only knew that like a Patreon subscription could like erase like 25 years of therapy if they just like pay attention, like you could never pitch it like that yourself, but I'm just like saying for people out there, that's really what it does.

When you move through that shit, I think you have like more access to whether you wanna call them gifts or psychic abilities. And then once you get in touch with that, you know, depending on your appetite for it or level of pursuing it, it can be pretty helpful, I think. I'm learning to be more open to it. I also physically have been learning that like, if I don't process things like spiritually or emotionally or psychologically, it will show up in my body. And that would be like, fuck. Really? It's like, all right, let me just figure out which one's gonna be the one that feels best this time. (laughing)

Yeah, the body stuff has not been fun. Like definitely not. Yeah, I got so bad to the point where I couldn't move my arms without like excruciating pain.

Yeah.

And it was like, okay, something's like really fucked up and wrong. (laughing) But mostly the physical stuff I've like worked through, but I asked about mediumship just because the last month or so, my guides have really been pushing it like in my face.

Yeah.

A lot more.

Yeah.

And they started, I was talking to my shop and friend again. And you know, I told her like what they've been having me do. Like, you know, with grid work, sometimes they'll have me drive around just to like kind of spread some like frequency and energy. But lately it's been a little different. And I told her about that. And she's like, you know, she's like, it's almost like the mayor from Naima for Christmas when he's going to the town and ringing the bell. And I was like, oh shit. (laughing) I was like, okay, I get it. Like they're trying to prep me for some crazy like mediumship work. And it's like, and it's like you said, it's like when you kind of clean out the pipes, you're more likely to embrace it.

And I'm getting to that point where I'm like, all right, I guess I'm ready.

That's kind of where I'm at. I have so much respect for people who are like really open and tapped into that in an authentic way, just because, wow, it's such a vibe. I've had it come through inadvertently. Last year in particular is when it was just like flooding in. I was like, Jesus Christ. And it gets emotionally overwhelming to be clear. If you're sustaining a mediumship with a real person who's no longer physically in this world and they're aware of that, they can take advantage. They're gonna be like, you're gonna feel everything I'm gonna feel about this thing. And I'm like, I don't even know what this is about.

It got weird last year. I think embracing it is probably going to be my move. I think we all feel like there's always a lot of shit going on in our lives, not in a bad way, just like, we're dealing with a lot of stuff. There's a lot of things going on. I guess it's one of those things where, like, if someone came to me for a reading and I was giving them advice about something, I'd be like, yeah, you probably just have to do it at this point. It's one of those things you know you have to do. You're probably not gonna feel totally prepared for it, but the signs are there for people who are getting that call.

Probably because it's related to that collapsing of time and recognizing that just because someone physically isn't present or an energy isn't physically present, doesn't invalidate its existence. Our senses are, like, a pretty small filter in which we perceive reality. So that type of stuff does seem like it's kind of piping in.

Yeah, yeah, definitely. And like you said, that whole feeling of, you might not be prepared for it, but it's happening, you know, regardless. (laughing) Might as well just get on board with it. Yeah, there's just, there's a couple of locations that they've been having me go through and they're locations I've never liked. I've always felt really, like, you know.

Where are they?

So Jerome is like the, is a very obvious one, but they've been having me go sleep there a lot. And I, there's so many reasons. I don't, I don't enjoy Jerome on a spiritual level. I mean, it's a cool town. Like, hey, go check it out. And like, it is kind of fun, funky on like a physical level. But energetically, there's just so many things going on that's just like needs to be rectified. And mining towns in general make me nauseous and sick.

Yeah.

Just 'cause the earth's been so like scarred and then on top of the other like human things that have happened on top of that in most mining towns. So yeah, Jerome is like one. (laughing) And especially 'cause it's like still such a lively town and these buildings.

I don't know anything about it. I haven't even heard anything about Jerome.

Oh my God. So let's talk about Jerome.

Talk about Jerome, early wife coming up.

So Jerome is an old mining town. It's still very lively. It's been around since like, oh goodness, I'm gonna, I'm gonna botch the year, maybe like 18, 20's, 18, 30's. I think I'm botching that year. I feel like that's when people started like going out there and establishing and whatnot. I mean, most of this area was just kind of settled by homesteaders anyway.

Right, of course.

So with Jerome, it's a mining town. It's like, it's on like super edge of a cliff. Typical like Wild West stuff went down there. Like, you know, murders, debauchery, you know, brothels, that sort of thing.

debauchery.

Huh?

Gotta love debauchery. (laughs)

Oh, it's, you know, yeah, exactly. And it's always part of the landscape of Wild West, right? One other biggest claim to fame is this old hotel. I think it's called the Grand Hotel, something, something along those lines. It's, you can see it from like miles away. It's like the biggest thing in Jerome, like on top of it. And it used to be used as a hospital.

It also had an adjacent building. I believe that was technically an asylum. And so of course it was converted to a hotel 'cause why not? (laughs)

That's a good move, energetically. Go ahead, yeah.

Yeah, and so the infrastructure is still there. Like they haven't changed much of it and people live there, people have businesses there. It's a very much alive, you can't even call it a ghost town. I don't think people really do. So these buildings are still there, people are still doing what they were doing. It's like there's still bars and things of that nature. So it's like so many energies and spirits are still so attached to it.

Right, right.

Not to mention like the insane amount of murder that took place. And it's a tiny, tiny little mining town, like super minuscule. You could walk around the whole town and like maybe like 20 minutes or so.

Oh yeah, wow.

Yeah, yeah. And yeah, so it's just when I'm there, you can just feel how crowded energetically it is.

Yeah.

Oh, I forget the name of this theater. There's a theater there too. That's pretty infamous for spiritual activity. I don't like walking by it, let alone walking into it. But the hotel is definitely, I would say, a hotspot of just really distorted energies. Like, and I'm sure you've experienced this as a medium where it's like you have spirits that are like made up of aspects of other spirits.

Yeah, and they're just kind of like, they're like instinctual kind of like entities. I don't know exactly what it is, but yes, I do know what you're talking about. And I just, I am pretty strict with what, like I've fucked up a couple of times by like inviting everything in. I'm like, I'm gonna heal everything. And then I open up a point. I'm like, this was a huge mistake. Like what is, I'm a moron. Like why did I do that? Like I don't know what I was thinking right now in time. So after learning those lessons, I'm pretty, but yeah, once in a while, you'll get a weird fucking, it just feels like a, like a spasm of things that are kind of like bunched together that don't have any real substance.

They're not like a person or a spirit or a being. It's, I've encountered that for sure.

Yeah, and then on top of it, it's like, I mean, some people call them like shadow people. Like they, you know, they got a lot of that going on up there.

I have gone to the inside the hotel once before I really knew it's history when I was younger and I was visiting with my parents, the whole area. And we just went to go eat and it was like the whole time. I just, I couldn't focus. I couldn't feel comfortable. And there's at one point where we were going, I was waiting outside the restaurant in the hallway and granted this place used to be like a hospital. Like back in like old mining times, right? And I could just feel all of these people just standing around watching me. And it's like, I hate that feeling and it is like prevalent, but these people, these energies are not well, right?

They're not like, they're not high vibe. So, sort of energies. I mean, these are energies that are feeling stuck. They're feeling, you know, like they're still like kind of holding on to the physical reality in a lot of ways. And it's just a really heavy, somber, awful feeling. And then of course there's energies that are taking advantage of those other energies. So it's just not a cool place to visit. But anyway, so that's one area they're having me sleep.

Cool, awesome, gotta go there. (laughs)

It does have a great view though. It's like a mile up high up on the mountain. So it is like very scenic.

Of course, I mean, any dense place is probably gonna have some profound beauty attached to it without a doubt. There's a reason a kind of energy collects there in the first place, I'm sure.

Yeah, oh yeah. Plus like all of the metallic resources that you can like mine out of the area. And then there's like, so West Sedona, this is like something that I don't think many people talk about. Or maybe just people don't like initially pick up on this. West Sedona has weird mess of energy too. I actually don't like West Sedona. I don't enjoy being there. And there's one spot in particular. I don't know what to call it other than just like a really bad energetic spot. And I mean, Sedona has like vortexes everywhere. It's like one giant vortex made up of vortexes. And when you have that you're gonna have funky spots that are not like beneficial really, or just like create weird distorted stuff.

And so it's actually around this place. There's a restaurant there called Relix around that spot. And actually it's out of business now. And I'm not too surprised about that.

'Cause they set up next to a negative dimensional hell portal.

Yeah, yeah.

Not good for business.

Yeah, really not good for business. It's like even when I drive by it, I just, oh, it just like really makes me cringe. And what I've like felt around there has been like, it's the weirdest thing to describe. I actually have never come across something like this as far as like when I've really tapped into like my medium abilities. It's almost like collection of dead people. Like, like, not that they're just being held there, but like they're being collected there. Like they're pulling there. And then here's some, not to get all super creepy, but it's like they're kind of, they're, it's almost like they're frozen.

I've never seen anything like this. They're almost like mannequin-like. It's just really-

Are they like, is there like an essence or spirit to them? Or are they just kind of like things waiting to like have something put in them?

Definitely not the latter.

Right.

Like I said, I've never come across something like this. It's the most bizarre thing. I've, like, yeah, I know it's not repetitive, but it's just the most bizarre thing I've ever encountered. Like, yeah, it's definitely energies of people. And I think people who died around the area, but it's like they've been pulled together and they're just like, like even their inner, their essence is almost like frozen, like energetically. I don't know how to describe it. And a Sedona has a lot of elementals and I've picked up elemental energy around there too. And here's something else that is also very strange.

So when I was moving here, I had to do a couple trips back and forth. And so I actually ended up staying in a hotel. I didn't realize it was right across the street from this place. So I showed up and I was, huh?

I said, nice, of course, of course it is.

Yeah, and I was like, oh man. I was like, well, it's across the street. How bad could it be? Like, I'm aware of this stuff. And I honestly left early. I didn't even stay the full like four days. Like by the second day, I was like, you know what? I can't do this, I'm out. Like the first night, of course I wasn't asleep. Of course I wasn't gonna sleep through this. But, and I'm used to like spirit traffic, but this was insane. This was like busier than like Grand Central Station. And it was kind of going to that area. Like again, like being pulled, right?

Yeah, of course.

Yeah, Jesus Christ.

So I wasn't sleeping well. And then when I finally did sleep, I was having like fucked up astral experiences. Like, like I was astraling, but I couldn't really get anywhere. And I think just 'cause there were so many other energies, like being pulled, like around me to that spot. And then the next day, here's what made me leave.

Yeah.

I woke up and I felt like I was dying.

Oh, that's not good.

No, like I woke up and I was like, this is what dying feels like. Like instantly I knew. And I was like, all right, just shake it off. Like it's nothing. And that feeling wouldn't leave me. And I thought, I was like, you know what? I'm out. (laughs)

Yeah, probably worth staying in that ever for anything. So what the fuck? You don't have to go do work there, do you?

Well, here's, well.

You're gonna pass by? You're gonna pass by?

So, okay. So with my living situation, my lease is up. And I've been having a really hard time fighting a place. I think I told you this personally. So I did get a backup plan for winter, like a hotel for winter 'cause the Airbnb is ridiculously expensive. But the only hotel I could find for winter that accepts cats, I didn't realize, was right next to that place. And I'm like, of course, of course it is, of course it is. But it's not the hotel that was across the street. This one's like next door. (laughs)

Was cried with you last time?

No, no, he wasn't. And so I kept.

Yeah, at least energetic buddy. That's, you know, worst case, you know, through there. He's there.

Yeah.

And I figure like, it wouldn't be allowed to happen if like you said, if it wasn't prepared to handle it.

No, it's what you want, ultimately. I mean, this is, I mean, you were even mentioning that like this fear, you know, fear is there for us to kind of like transcend. That's why it exists. It's not there to fuck us up. And even these types of things, there is obviously like a boundary and like discernment and about how much we wanna engage with. But you know, your world has a funny way of reflecting back to you, what needs to happen when you accept it. So, you know, but you don't, I don't know, when is your lease up?

The end of the month.

That's a lot of time. A lot of time that doesn't exist and folds in on itself for things like that. (laughs) You never know.

No, it's true. You never know. And like, you know, when I find a place, I can make shit happen pretty fast. And I'm not like, I'm not worried about it. I just, I'm really just going with the flow with whatever I'm pretty centered with at the time. And I'm looking in different states and stuff. And so it's just like, eh, we'll see what happens.

Yeah, wow. That's fucking crazy though. I mean, there are those vortexes all over the place. And I think my experiences of traveling a lot over the past year, just like different places I hadn't been before is like, you kind of just like pop into the reality you're supposed to be in at any given time. And that can be anywhere. But like it does, it's, I'm really of the opinion now that what we perceive is moving around and like locomotion and like experiencing things. It's just like a very convincing projection of like constructing our reality in front of our faces constantly. And we do it together and it's like a really convincing magic trick.

And I think like when you tap into that, you can kind of put the movie in, you want to see on the projector, no matter what. I feel like also that's what's happening with the Corona stuff. I know we spoke about this a little bit the last time, where just these patterns are being so interrupted for everyone that like, you might as well start experimenting with this shit. You might as well just be like, hey, listen, if there's a place I really feel like I'm being, I'm just getting like, I've had people tell me they'll get like flashes of like places where they kind of like see where they're going to be.

And having experienced this sometimes years before this like happened in my world, I'm like, just accept those. Like accept that is something that's definitely happening. And if it gives you a certain feeling, like try to jump into the picture if you can and experience it until you believe that it's like imminent. And then that seems to have a direct correlation with your experience in this world. And I don't know exactly what to call that as like a metaphysical practice, but seems like a lot of the astral stuff that we do while we're sleeping is becoming directly applicable in this world. Does that make sense to you?

That's what it feels like to me.

Yeah, and I mean, it kind of makes sense too, right? Like now that we're in a 5D physical reality versus like a 3D physical reality. So yeah, I definitely, I definitely agree with that. And it's funny you say that. 'Cause again, that's like, I'm used to functioning that way, like seeing it, feeling it and just being it. And so with moving, it's like, I don't know what needs to take place in the next month, but I feel like I'm clearly being blocked. Like every time I try something, like move-wise. And it's like, I don't know if that's Sedona trying to keep me here. I don't know if it's other things.

'Cause yeah, I was feeling and seeing Washington for a while, that's kind of gone. I definitely don't feel like I need to be in Arizona too much longer. And like, I honestly feel like I need to leave now, but then I've tried and then it's like, I'm kind of blocked from that happening. And then I just feel generally like just letting stuff kind of come in of like what feels right. And then there's like nothing.

So what kind of climate do you like?

I like the cold. I really love the cold. I love wet. I love ocean. I love rain. I really don't like the heat. I'm so not made for the heat.

Yeah, I'm not big on like big sunny days. I'm really not big on that. Anything over like 65 is like kind of warm for me.

Wow. Well, you're always welcome in Upstate New York because it's fucking brick here. It's like, that's not been getting... I was like, saw a 65 day in like next week on my please hold up. Please let me move to the reality where it's 65. 'Cause I grew up on the East Coast and it's just like, it's always been cold. Like everywhere I've lived. And I'm just like, oh man. I don't know, I don't think I'm gonna be like someone who leaves every single time, but it does like my, I'm like, oh shit, I gotta go somewhere warm. But if you're like cold, I'll tell ya, Upstate New York picturesque and fucking brick.

When you say brick, what does that mean?

Oh, it's a New York tour. I picked it up for my fucking friends in the Bronx. It's cold. It's just like very cold. That's what I love.

Oh, okay.

I know it's New York's like, I lived with someone from the Bronx, from the South Bronx for like almost four years. And I picked up like a lot of terminology that like makes no sense to anyone else. And it's just how it's ingrained in my consciousness. But yeah, just very cold. That is the translation of brick.

Okay, yeah, 'cause like when you said it, I'm like, is that a word I should know?

No, no, I didn't know it. No, I didn't know it. It's just the word, it's so funny. No, no, I didn't know it. But yeah, it's fucking cold. That's interesting. You don't like the heat and you're in Arizona. It gets cold though, like now though, right?

No?

I mean, not for me. I'm like, and to be honest with you, like 60s, I can tolerate 60s. My preferred temperature is like the low 40s. Like if every day was like low 40s, I'd be super happy.

Holy shit, well, this is my reality. If you wanna trade places for a little bit, be my best. You do have to be a pair of two kids, but you know, whatever, it's a small price to pay for those low 40s. That's, yeah, I mean, why don't you go move to the East Coast? That's like what it is, the fucking Northeast for nine months of the year, eight months of the year. It's cold.

You know, I've been to the East Coast. I am not a fan really of the East Coast. And maybe, huh?

There's a lot of energy up and down that sucker.

Yeah, that's definitely like the biggest part of it, that I'm not a huge fan of. It is older, like infrastructure-wise. There's like modern infrastructure, right? Yeah, there's just a lot of shit that's happened on the East Coast, especially like Southeast. I mean, Southeast is too hot for me anyway. Even like Northeast. Yeah, yeah, it's just, it's too much a gnarly history that still hasn't been cleared out.

Look what I have to do. I have to smoke sacred tobacco from the West Coast. I think from Arizona to here, smoke it here 'cause it's fucking heebie-jeebies. Since I moved into this place, there's been crazed, there's a police guy, I'm right by the train station, right by the talk about energy passing through. Right by the dock, a policeman committed suicide. There's fucking the postman who worked there for 25 years, died a week after I moved here. It's like this weird vortex ville. This is weird shit up here. It's definitely, you know, we all have our grid work to do, right? In our respective zones.

Have they come into your house to say hi?

No, thank God. I mean, like I did some cleansing inadvertently when I first moved here, not knowing it. That's how I do most of my stuff. I've realized it's not very intentional most of the time. It's like, oh, well, I just transmuted some shit by accident there. That's typically how it's done for me. No, it's pretty cool. Like I have a nice little beautiful zone here that's like pretty picturesque, but it's like, yeah, it's old energy. It's like, it's very complicated. Most of this stuff in people's lives when they were living here, even to present day, many of them, like never worked out, like deep inner issues.

And you're talking about mediumship. Like that seems to be the function of why people are like booting up as mediums. Like it's time to transmute some shit that people weren't able to do. And there are this particular timeline that we're experiencing and they kind of cascade into our being our ancestors, whatever is around us geographically. So being able to like access that and then like, you know, not transmute for other people, but like resonated at a frequency that allows them to do it for themselves. Or I don't even wanna say them, but allows the energy to kind of harmonize with itself. That seems to be a lot of the work.

And what that looks like sometimes in practical 3D, 5D terms is like, you know, it was weird shit going on. It's like weird fucking things and relationships and circumstances and global events. But I mean, it is kind of this, this cool, harmonizing dance that I've, I enjoy, I guess that's why we do it, is 'cause we enjoy it. That seems to be the overarching message that I get ultimately.

Yeah, and you know, that is an interesting layer to it. Like you were saying, like transmuting to like hell, like again, not to transmute energies for people, but it's like, we're so affected by the dead and people don't realize that sometimes. And so when you do transmute those energies or work with those energies, it doesn't neatly help the living. And also, yeah, and for me, like, I've had these instances come up this last month where I was just like, I'm not trying to help people, but you know how it goes when you're supposed to help people, it just kinda happens. I was getting my teeth cleaned of all places and the dental hygienist and I were talking during that.

And then of course, it like, it led there. And oh my God, like this poor woman. So she has abilities that she's been ignoring that scares the shit out of her. And of course, all of her kids have abilities too. And now she has all these like dark energies like in and out of her home and like, and she has one kid who like, I kinda isolates himself to like deal with these energies by himself and that kinda made me worry just 'cause everyone else is afraid and he's not, but they're like dark energies. And I'm like, I don't know, this doesn't feel good, right? And so she's telling me more and just ends up, I just end up basically giving her a piece of advice to like deal with that, right?

'Cause instantly I knew these energies she was dealing with were not like normal, chill spirits, right? And probably because she's afraid. And so it's just attracting that.

That's exactly how it works too. Which is why when we talk about these things, I think a lot of people, like I get questions about this a lot. I don't push away fear. I just am like, all right, here it is. I understand what this energy is. I'm choosing to lightly take my attention away from that and focus on like a deeper resonant message. But that's how I deal with fear for these things. But admittedly it can get terrifying, you know, if this shit is actually happening and like there's weird shit going around you and you're kind of perceiving it, yeah, it can get really freaky. I'm not gonna deny that.

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, there's some crazy ass shit out there.

There's some crazy ass shit out there, both of them.

And then also like the healing that can happen for the living when you can relay certain messages, right? Like I recently helped someone who was very close to me and he lost his dad a couple of years ago. And even though he lost his dad a couple of years ago, I've been very aware of his dad's energy around him, but I don't say anything, right? It's like, I don't like to intrude and sometimes like people aren't ready to hear this sort of thing, right? Especially if the grief was really hard on them or they had a really bad relationship with them. It's like, I really don't say anything until it feel like I really have to. - A hundred percent.

Yes, I know this, but this is the only way to be, I feel like as someone who really understands what's going on, I don't never wanna do it, basically. I have to be pushed to do it, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, 'cause you don't wanna make someone upset, all of a sudden they get scared or what have you. But that moment finally came where it was like, okay, it's time to let him know about his dad and all of that stuff, and he needed that. He so needed that healing and not just on a superficial level, but for this deeply rooted relationship that he's had with his dad that was not functional. So yeah, I like that layer to it too. So there's so many reasons to kind of embrace it, but yeah, it's definitely a hard ability to work with and be comfortable with.

It's weird, it can be overwhelming, it really throws your concept of reality on its head if you're used to experiencing it kind of linearly. It brings up a lot of conflicts that need to be sorted in a healthy dose of paradox that you have to live with experientially, but it is real. I know that, I tend to shut it off more often than not, but it does come out in waves for me, and I think it is something that's omnipresent, right? It's always around us, it's not like we're actually, it stops at any point, it's just like, we're tuning it out, like kind of like a frequency on the radio, and it's useful, ultimately.

I mean, that's like my main message with this stuff is that it does serve a function, it's not there to just freak people out and make some people be skeptical. It does serve a function in our reality. And I think it's, I don't want to like lighten it by calling it a game, but it's a narrative that we engage with for a purpose, you know, for lessons or whatever you want to call it, broader perspective, there's value to it. And yeah, I think it's good, you're convincing me to kind of re-engage with it. I've got, it's so fucking, you know what really kicked it off for me last year, I gotta say, is a Mezco.

My sister was like, she started giving me like Mezco that she was getting from Mexico and holy shit. That just fucking was like a portal to dead people. And I'm like, what is this? Like how is this mentioned, you know, looked into the, you know, spiritual and metaphysical significance of a cafe and all this stuff. And I'm like, oh my God, this is literally dead people juice. This is like, this is crazy. But yeah.

Yeah, it's funny you say that because she sent me a couple of samples and I'm like, there's one when I opened the box. I was like, I wonder if she deliberately sent me like this one in particular, just 'cause of the name. I don't even remember like the name in Spanish, but when you translate it, it's low list tears.

I'm sure she did it on purpose. I know Tess, I'm sure she did. It's insane that stuff. It really is like, and it's not like drinking alcohol. It's really something different. And it's kind of gone under the radar, I guess. But yeah, that's kind of my portal. It always makes me think of like, you know, like the stereotype of like the psychic, like smoking a cigarette and like drinking when someone coming in, but having like deadly accurate predictions. I feel like that's what Mescal does for me. It just like puts me in this weird zone. Or I'm like, oh yeah, I guess this was an ability I had in some incarnation that is like coming out.

It's, I don't know, and it does feel very, I think there's like a feminine energy that needs to be present with a lot of this mediumship. Like if it's too objective or rational or kind of like trying to get from point A to point B, it doesn't work so well. But if you can kind of accommodate what's coming through and filter it in like a loving, nurturing way, it works a lot better. And then I think you're less susceptible to kind of those weird distorted things that can get attracted to that type of thing, which is sometimes what happens. Yeah, mediumship. (laughs)

I know, I mean, clearly we're supposed to talk about it and I could feel that too, like for a while. Like I need to talk to know about that.

Yeah, yeah, it's vibe, it's fucking vibe. It's just something that's in the ether, literally, I guess.

Yeah, well, yeah, obviously, literally, right. And you know, something else that I'm actually really loving about like where we're going in this new physical reality, you know, as people like do the work. 'Cause obviously, like when we say collective, I think our definition, our understanding of collective is also gonna be evolving a little bit more. 'Cause yes, we are a collective, but it doesn't mean everyone in the collective is going to embrace these energies.

No, and almost specifically, they won't, if you understand it correctly, because that would then be a static experience, period. Like, this is a wave that we choose to ride or don't. You catch it or you don't. It's always kind of like an internal shift that's made. My understanding of it, at least.

Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. So I think people are gonna be adopting that a little bit more. But for those who do catch these waves, I mean, something I've been experiencing with people who are like catching these waves, is almost like, it's not even telepathy. I mean, maybe it is, maybe it's just advanced telepathy, where I'm talking with them. And I know every word that's about to come out of their mouth.

Yeah.

And I love that. I so love that. It gets me so excited. It's like, oh, this is like next level communication. Like, where's it gonna be like after this? You know, after we transcend this part of the advancement.

I do, so here's what I am looking for. I know exactly what you're talking about. I also look at deja vu and extended states of deja vu in a similar vein, which is what I think we're experiencing here is like, we're the actor, right? We're the avatar. We're producing writing, directing this as well. But our experience here is that of the actor. And we don't recognize we set up a production, written a story, and then directed the action that's gonna happen. And I think we do that when we're sleeping, when we're actually projecting, when we're in like that in between state where you can get on, you know, substances or whatever it is, just meditation.

If you're there, you actually start to construct which we later experience in our strong together experience of linear time. And I think when you have that happen, you recognize that like, oh my God, like this is actually, like we're resonating at a frequency with each other where we're like actually in sync perfectly. And that opens up like it's a very exciting energy because if that's true, we then have the ability to kind of like harness that skill and then move through what probably seems like insurmountable obstacles relatively quickly because we're like constantly like up leveling and resonating.

And it is a lot like ringing the bell, you know what I mean? Let's like you start ringing at a certain frequency. The bells that are made of a similar material or, you know, close will start ringing as well. That's like, that's what it feels like to me predominantly. And I don't know if like my perspective on that is just why I continuously move through that experiential timeline, but that feeling hasn't left me in probably my whole life. And I think that's also one of these things that really helps with like trauma clearing or whatever you want to call it. Just working through your deep core shadow material is like, you really do discover like who you are at your core.

Like you really, really start to like home in on that. And to me that's just it is being made out of love. Like that is ultimately what I always come back to. And it doesn't mean everything's love and light and fucking utopian all the time. But it does mean ultimately that is your essence. And I think for people who that who resonate with that, some of them might hear them be like, no fucking way, like I'm fucking the opposite of that. But people resonate with that. Like the more you accept that, the more harmonious or at least your ability to make your reality and your perception of it, harmonious goes up.

That seems to be where at least a lot of people who are like I'm connected to are interested in moving towards. It seems to be kind of inevitable the way I look at it. (laughing)

Yeah, I'm definitely inclined to agree with that.

For sure, for sure.

For sure. Oh my God, well, this, I mean, is there anything, any other, you uncovered mediumship? Is there any other fucking stuff? 'Cause I always feel like we have more to talk about. I mean, we covered, I had a question from Denise, my partner who probably is like one of your biggest fans. Like just, it's because, you know, she follows all the signs that you give for the readings. And I don't know if you're aware of this. I'm sure you must be on some level. They weave together perfectly. Like they are literally like the multi-perspectable view that comes from this. And what her, what she was saying is, and she was like, you should ask for this 'cause I think it's really cool and I'm wondering if she's aware of this, is like she feels like by you pulling the cards and bringing perspective to these energies, it is a transmutation process for a lot of people.

It is like an in-the-moment kind of uncovering energies that are present or are likely to occur and giving kind of a boost or a perspective on it that is very helpful to a lot of people. Like are you aware of kind of the transmutation properties of the readings? Yeah. (laughs)

Oh, this is gonna be a layered answer.

Awesome.

Oh gosh, it's like, where do I start with answering this question? - I know.

So, short answer is yes. The, like basically when I'm doing a reading and I'm channeling information and I'm channeling energy, the way I receive information and understand it is on like a massively like macro level. And so most of like what I'm actually saying to everybody is not exactly what I'm channeling, but I'm saying it in a way that's under, that you guys can understand on a micro level.

Right.

And when you do the macro to the micro it is, it is a transmutation. So it's like, it's so, it's so hard to describe 'cause it's like, yeah, just when I get the information, I just see how it all falls in, but I know I can't really communicate it that way for most people.

Yeah.

And so when I'm just talking, it's, it is a way, yeah, I don't have the right words to describe. - I know exactly what you're talking about because this is what I do when I'm giving readings for people is like, it is a process where you're like zooming out so much that you're letting that kind of like those energies and perspectives flow down through everything, eventually into cards and just like you hear things or at least something you feel. And to try to put that into exact terminology in words is difficult, but I think you gave the most important reasoning behind it, which it is this macro to micro thing.

So it would cascade down and flow and sync up perfectly. And I was like, yeah, it's fucking, it's real. It's the coolest thing I've seen. I don't follow a lot of readers. Like I'm lucky enough in this reality to call you a friend, but like you're one of the only people I reliably tune into just because it feels like, you know, you like are drinking water and you want like good clean water, you know? You don't want shit that's been bottled at a sewage plant or like, you know, extracted from the earth by Nestle. You just want like good pure like well or stream or waterfall water. And like you're, you're given the real stuff.

You got the goods. So yeah, it's appreciated by I think a lot of people who tune into you and I'm sure you know that, but it's always important that we let people know because that shit's awesome.

Oh, well that really means a lot. And yeah, I love this work. It's just, I can't imagine, I can't imagine not doing it. And I like putting information out there. Like it feels weird for me to like have information and not share with people. Like you know what I mean?

I do. - Yeah, actually, when I have that, well, I've had a couple sessions with a couple people like to work on some of this stuff that we were talking about earlier. But that very first one where she like said the comment about me like being like a snake with the skin layers and everything, she picked up on how I see things and how I like receive information. And she couldn't describe it. And she's like, I don't, she's like, I've never seen this before. She's like, she's like, you just like you see the web. Like you see, like you just, you see it all. And I was like, yeah, she's like, but you give people like puzzle pieces.

And I was like, oh, that's actually a good way of putting it. 'Cause I do kind of talk like that. I feel like I just give people random pieces of information, but they, you know, they kind of do it all around.

Put them together. That's the thing though, that I think like a year ago, I tuned into that very specific idea, which is everyone has these pieces, right? But giving them, showing them that they exist and allowing them to put them together for themselves. It's like, I realized this with having kids. Like at first, when I, when my first child, like I was always putting the puzzle together for him. And then at a certain point, I'm like, this isn't teaching him shit. Like he's just watching me put a puzzle together. Let me show them, you know what I mean? Then I was like, oh, like this is what people are doing, including myself, like I get it.

Yeah, it's a service in knowing that that's kind of what you're supposed to be doing. And I mean, I think that or like something that people should catch here is like, you love doing this because you know it's right. And it feels like what you're supposed to be doing. And I think the more people can kind of honor that, whatever it is, no matter how weird it may seem or out of sync with where you are now, it's super important to acknowledge that 'cause that at least puts you on the path to like figuring out like who the fuck you are. Which is usually a very awesome person, always basically. So that's cool.

Yeah, and like to be open that that might change too, at some point, you know. It's like, you might, excuse me, you might like do something for a little while, and like you really love it and it feels right. But then maybe it's time to like expand or just evolve on whatever that is. You know, I think sometimes people get kind of afraid when that moment comes. When it's like, wait, but this has been working. And I've been enjoying it. Even though deep down, like they can feel that it has to change. They can feel like they're gonna hit a wall of some sort. Yeah. It's a vibe, it's an energy to be looked at.

I mean, these are always my favorite conversations. Have you ever, did you ever look at Twitch as a streaming platform, by the way? I just got into it. It's kind of insane. (laughing)

Well, I've always had like gaming friends and like they've always been like huge fans of like Twitch. And even when I started my channel, they're like, you need to get on Twitch. I'm like, I'm not. - It's like nuts. I think you might like it. I've been experimenting with it. It's very interactive. There seems to be a spirit of generosity there that comes from the gaming or younger generations that it's like, it's really interesting. It's a very different place. I've like have been forcing it on my patrons and YouTube people and they're like revolting a little bit, but it is, there's something to it.

You might like it. Just something made me think to tell you that because it is a, there is an energy there. There's like a spirit there that it's qualitatively different and not too difficult to access if you're interested.

Okay. Yeah, I'll definitely check that out. Yeah, I'm actually going to start really putting time into my writing again, which is like, yeah, that's like, that's a big thing for me. Like all the inner work I did, like I realized I had like a massive block when it came to, when it came to writing and like getting my writing done. So I'm kind of excited to see how that pans out now that I've worked through it.

I am really excited about that. Holy shit, I can't wait to see it. I forced myself to write every like tarot stuff at least twice a week just because like, you know when like you're good at it and you're like, you know the writing voice that's different than like the speaking and channeling voice that like to people that, that one's a good one. It's like an elegant nice voice that usually comes through. So that's fucking awesome.

Yeah, can you still feel like the little remnants of like anxiety?

Of course, but that's how you know it's good. Come on, you know, just like I know, that's how you know it's the good stuff. You know what I mean? Like that anxiety, that resistance, like it's not, it's usually a part of something that like is very powerful and potent for us that we're gonna experience. And I think the transcendence of it is basically why it exists. So I think, yeah, I also like, come on, please. I have no, it's not hard to imagine you being good and effective at writing. So I got you on that one. If you need, if you need me to imagine that one for you, I got you.

Okay, I mean, you're so mercurial too. I might send you a little like, please of what I'm working on at any given point.

Amazing. So where can people find you? I've mentioned it a couple of times in Patreon, but like where's the best place for people to engage with what you're doing?

I mean, YouTube and Patreon is definitely like, you know, the most prominent. So it's just under water baby tarot and balmy spirit. There are two brands that I technically have right now. I'm trying to consolidate them into just one, but yeah. So water baby tarot and balmy spirit.

You're the best. What, do we wanna give election predictions? What are you feeling included?

Let's just be wrong. We could just take opposites. What do you think is gonna happen? We're in the middle.

I honestly feel like Trump is going to win technically, but I think there's also going to be like, I think there's also gonna be a lot of dragging ass of delays of like fraud claims and all, you know, I mean, that's like, they've already primed the collective for that, like so much of like, there will be fraud. So I think that's gonna go on for a number of months. And I don't think until like honestly February and March are we gonna have some kind of like finalized way of just going about the next presidency. But like I said, I'm still really hoping that it becomes such a shit show. And other stuff happens that really needs to be dealt with as far as like on the state level of chaos that the states are just gonna be like, we need to handle our shit.

So we're just gonna start handling our shit.

I don't know if government's a fucking mess and we need a real solution here.

No, I do think that's not far off. I mean, I oscillate between like pretty sure Trump is gonna win to like maybe this is just like the pendulum swings are getting more erratic and faster. And this is just gonna swing hard to the other side. But to me, that also feels like more unrest than what actually feels like is imminent. So I don't know, we'll see. We'll know in hopefully two weeks. Not tonight.

Everyone knows, they already know it's not gonna be tonight. It's amazing.

Yeah, there's no way. I mean, even the way like voting has gone about in my area, this is like the other reason I was kind of like thinking I couldn't even vote at all anyway. Because like we aren't remote with everything going on, it's like, you know, obviously in the most states they've been encouraging like absentee ballots. But where we drop the ballots off here are the most random ass spots that I'm like, wait a minute, this doesn't even seem legitimate. Like in the middle of a parking lot.

Someone just kept up like a shoebox, just like a shoebox or an incinerator and Mark put in your ballot. Yeah, it's great, vote, it's important to feel the beauty. All right, we'll talk soon, I'm sure.

Definitely, 'cause actually there were a couple other things I realized I did wanna talk to you about.

Mention them, we can tease them for next time. What are the two things? I will promise we won't talk about them, just this is cliffhangers of cliffhangers, what are they?

Okay, so I've been getting November 14th, like excessively as a really important date. And I know like Newman's Scorpios are in that time. I feel, and when you said the word portal earlier, I forget in what context, I'm sure you said it more than a couple of times.

Yeah.

That date came back to me. I feel like there is something about, oh, when you were talking about Mescalle, that's what it was, you were talking about Mescalle. I feel like that date in Newman's Scorpio is gonna be a weird portal situation. I'm kind of excited to see what happens with that. Also, I wanted to ask if you've been getting, 'cause for a number of months, we kept getting all the downloads about gods and things like that, and I think that's quieted down a lot. I think we needed that for a transitionary period. But I have been getting downloads about titans and the giants, which I thought was also interesting.

And releasing of titans.

I've heard more mentions of titans in the past three days. I just think randomly, even from commercials or something, it's very interesting, you mentioned that. I don't know. I mean, I know that Saturn wasn't Saturn Chronos. Is he a Titan? Is he a god for a Titan?

Yeah, he's a Titan. No, he's a, wait a minute, what is he?

It's a Titan, I think he's a Titan, no?

Okay.

What's in he? (laughing) I'm gonna Google it, 'cause I actually wanna know. Saturn a Titan. Saturn a Titan.

I do think Saturn is associated with Cronus, like you said, I think that is for sure.

I mean, mythology, this is how we figure it out.

No, I mean, that makes sense, because that's a big war. Yes, he Cronus was a Titan. Saturn's original counterpart in Greece with Cronus, Cronus was a Titan. Yeah, because he, I remember this story, because he ate all of his children, and Zeus was saved because his mom wrapped a rock in his place, and he ate Saturn Aida, and then they hid Zeus. So Cronus had dominion over land, sea, and earth, and they suspended him, they gave him to centars. Yeah, I remember this shit. They gave him the centars, and the centars suspended him in a fucking hammock thing on the forest branches, so he wasn't on any of those places, so Cronus couldn't see him.

And then he later came up, and he killed him. He killed his dad, classic myth. But that is how I remember he's a Titan. So I know that that mythology, a lot of edible stuff, it does feel like, and this relates to the childhood shit, there's a lot of this stuff, like mother wound, father wounds, like these big kind of deep energetic schisms that seem to be now kind of clashing with gods in a certain way, and I feel like we're just cycling through a lot of these types of energies, mythologically and archetyply, it just feels like the pattern. It's kind of fun, I gotta say. (laughing) Yeah, it can be, it definitely can be.

Like for a good like few weeks, I was getting Poseidon really strong, and Neptune, I'm like, why am I getting this? And I looked at that for a little bit, and then I started working with the Nomos for a little bit. And then out of nowhere, Oceanus came up, and I'm like, who the hell is Oceanus? And I was like, oh, that's a Titan? Like it's a Titan no one talks about, who like stayed out of shit. And I was like, oh, this is interesting. Who stayed out of things, and then like helped the gods defeat the Titans. I never heard of this, okay, so we gotta get into the Titans. I gotta do my research, and look into this stuff, 'cause I eat this.

This is like, I remember the first things I was into as a kid was all the mythology stuff, so fucking cool.

Also, are you an anime fan?

I, okay, so I wasn't an anime fan until like four or five years ago when my friend put me onto one punch man, and then I started getting sucked down the vortex of like all the spirited away, all those movies, like every single one of them. So whenever someone recommends anime, I usually watch it, but like, yeah, it's fucking amazing.

So have you seen Blood of Zeus?

No.

This is a new anime that was shoved in my face during all of this, and I was like, clearly I need to watch this. And I was floored with just the first like five minutes compared to like all the downloads and stuff I was getting about Titans. I'm not gonna like spoil, I'm not gonna spoiler alert it, but it opens up with basically talking about how the Titan, when the Titans fell, giants were born of their blood, and then demons were born of the giants.

Oh, this is gonna be sweet, awesome. Well, you're really cool, yeah, we gotta talk more. We gotta figure out how to have more of these conversations because they're great. And I know people get a lot out of them. People always love this stuff, so.

Yeah, and absolutely, like now that I am emerging from that like crazy cave, like inner child, whatever that was, yeah, I feel ready to like mingle a lot more with people and talk to people a lot more.

Yeah, it's fun. I know, I know it was like, I couldn't do shit for like two, three months. The fact that I was even getting a podcast out regular, I was like, how the fuck did I do that? I was just getting walloped from week to week and I'd pull it together. Like, yeah, I just get the shit kicked out of me this week, but we're good. (laughing) (laughing)

Broden, you're the best, we'll talk soon.

All right, this sounds good. Thanks again for, you know, setting this up. It's always fun. But yeah, take care, take it easy, especially today.

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