Ritual Union with Lacey Free

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Welcome to Synchronicity. Did you think I was gone? It was a crazy month of September. I'm gonna do a solo cast. It'll come out a couple of days after this. Probably still in September, but this episode, my wonderful, lovely, sweet, amazing guest is Lacey Free. I was just on Lacey's podcast, HorePod, H-O-A-R. Go check that out, she's incredible. Go sign up for a Patreon too. I'm gonna do that right after I record this. I've been meaning to do that. I'm by a computer, I'm gonna do it. She's the best, she's super cool, and I'm really excited for you guys to hear this episode. Before we get to the episode, big shout out to Ned, these guys, I don't know why they keep paying me.

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They're the coolest. This episode is super fun. Basie, like I said, she intuitively knows a lot. Also, I feel like we're connected in a pretty real way. September was just a brutal month for me, for so many reasons. My middle child, two-year-old, was in the hospital three times. He's out, he's doing great. He's fine. There was some interpersonal stuff that I will probably get into in the solo cast because that's for you guys. It's just been crazy. It was rough. It was really difficult. So a lot of the stuff that's gonna be coming out over the next couple of weeks is how to deal with adversity, chaos, all the fun stuff that we deal with in life, that we go, why do we have to deal with this shit again?

What's the point of that? We're gonna be talking a lot about that. So stay tuned for that stuff. I don't wanna give away too much in this episode. All I can say is you won't be disappointed. Whenever Lacey comes on, whenever I go on Lacey's podcast, it's just fun times. It's a good vibe. That's all I can say. That's it. That's it. Everything else will be at the tail end of the episode, whatever I have to say. So with that said, without further ado, here is Lacey Free. (gentle music) (upbeat music) Cool. Thanks for coming on, by the way.

Thank you. I'm really excited.

We just did your podcast a few days ago, and that was, I had a really good time here. I know also you wanted to talk about more of like the holographic stuff that you mentioned. So I figured this time on my podcast, you can talk about the stuff you wanted me to talk about on yours, 'cause I'm really interested in that stuff too. And we ended up talking a lot about kind of chaos and growth and that type of stuff. I was like in the thick of like some pretty heavy shit and it's a dominant different mental space now. I'm like preparing for a trip. So I feel like it's gonna be a bit of a different conversation, but how are you doing?

I'm good. Everything varies so much day to day. I feel like we're constantly just jumping these huge timelines as a collective. So every time I schedule something, or I'm like, I wanna talk about this three days later, I feel like a different person and it's completely new reality.

Yeah, but it's been a lot of celebration. The end of Virgo season, I just had my birthday when we talked.

Yeah.

So I haven't put out the episode 'cause I went and stayed off the grid on a bus for a few days, did some red lights, sauna, a float tank, some self-care. And then today is Maybonne, which is the witches' Thanksgiving. So it's about like harvesting the fruit. Enjoying the labor of our fruit, like the death of summer and the birth of fall.

That's also like big full moon energy, which just happened, I know. It's like a lot of like you hit the apex of what's going on and now it waxes, it wanes. Now it wanes. Is that what happens to a moon after it's full?

Yes. (laughing)

So there's a lot of that energy. That's cool. I mean, I had no idea that that was going on. I forgot it was even the Equinox. So like what on this? I want to talk about rituals too because you know about a lot of things. But I know one of your like real interests is rituals, among many others, like, you know, natural healing things. But like what rituals would you recommend for this period of time? Not just because it's Maybonne, there's the Equinox, but also like you mentioned, like I totally agree. Like the timeline jumping from day to day is almost like it almost makes you want to puke your pants.

Like it's so much, like are you kidding me? Like can we just get like a stable cohesive track for a little bit, but what can we do? Like what do you do ritually is what I should say? Like what do you, what does that look like for you?

Yeah. So rituals are so important from the aspect of the witch because the witch runs off the wheel of the year. So that's the solstices, the equinoxes. And it's getting us in tune with the Earth energy. So the witch sort of believes, and I shouldn't speak for all witches, but sort of the pagan tradition is the energy of Father Sky. So the galactic stars and then Mother Earth. And it's a constant balance of this energy with the masculine sky. So like the galactic would be considered masculine energy. And then the Earth is the feminine. The Earth will always like hold you and nurture you, but she's also the dark feminine.

So hurricanes that can kill or the deep ocean, you know?

Or a virus.

Or a virus. Yeah. Well, and then the Father, and we talked a little bit about the Father wound, or we talked about maybe that we should tap into the energy of the Father wound. And the energy of the Father is like this masculine sky energy that we look to for sort of affirmation and protection. But the sky, the masculine energy is always more distant where the feminine you can always go grab and it can hold you and she'll be there. And so it's the energy of this archetypical Father and archetypical Mother. And ritual is so important, even when seeing the world as a hologram or time travel, because the I do holographic healing.

And the idea is that we're holograms. But I don't necessarily know if we're really holograms, but I am a poet and I think it's such a beautiful metaphor that we're this light energy that's projecting from a denser reality.

Right, right.

Yeah. And that's just simply what a hologram is, is that we're this light energy projected from a denser reality. But if you believe in the energy of the hologram, you believe that reality is all based on our perception. That the dense reality is information. And right now we're sort of in my opinion, we're in a sort of spiritual battle and the weapons and tools are like information wars. And the thing about information is that it can come in and hijack your perception. So it can come in and hijack you and how you view the world and create more fear and trauma in the mind and the brain. And by creating that trauma or fear, your perception gets hijacked.

So it's not really that the government is more powerful than you or the 1% is more powerful than you, but they're constantly putting out these messages, the messages that hijack your perception. So saying all of that is to say that ritual is beautiful 'cause it helps you step back and sort of clear and purify your perception so that the perception is truly coming from the essence of your soul or divinity rather than a perception that's been hijacked from the people in power or the energies in power.

And that feels better just if we're gonna talk about it. (laughs) Sorry, you may be like, well, I don't know if that's happening to me. I can say like if you have a device, if you're listening to this podcast, there's like a 99.9% chance. There is some information being presented to you that maybe you're not consciously aware is influencing your perception. I noticed this all kind of go wonk-a-do like overtly in my face. Like you could kind of see it in like politics and other things like this, but you know, since the pandemic, it is information is the most powerful tool and weapon and resource that basically everyone is relying on in some way or the other.

Most people I should say, not everyone, some people are just like, whatever, I don't do it. But I mean, it's crazy. Like this is the most divisive thing I've ever seen. If you would have asked people 15, nine, 15, 10 years ago, do you think there's an issue that you and your friends, that you people you know who you agree with on pretty much everything, you know? Maybe not everything, but like enough things. Do you think there's something that could come between you? Be like, what about abortion? And I'm like, no, we may not agree about abortion, but we're still friends. Like I've never seen anything like a virus and science and preventative medicine verse, allotropic medicine, verse, I mean, I've never seen anything like it.

I to the point were for a few months, and I think I really ramped down how much podcasting I was doing partially because of it, I wouldn't even bring up the pandemic or vaccines or the virus. At this point, I think like there is an emerging kind of migration to what you're talking about, which is this like cleanse. Why don't you just like cleanse? Why don't you do something that clears your mind, clears your body, clears your spirit? Nature is amazing for this. Going on walks, whatever it is, observing things. We spoke about this a little bit on your podcast, but like doing those things tends to give you the reset to that essence that you're talking about.

And like I guarantee you, even if you disagree with someone about what their like medical or scientific opinion is, you won't be like an attacking, aggressive, you know, condescending or like, and this is both sides. There's not like one side that I'm saying does this and the other side doesn't. This is like everyone can fall prey to this. That at least shows you that like maybe you're being influenced by things that you don't know shit about number one, probably, and number two, you probably shouldn't care about like truthfully. And I know that's like a dangerous statement in the age of, you know, everyone needs to be vaccinated because the unvaccinated people are the bad people.

But I do think that like just being able to reset yourself wherever you are, whatever you believe is probably one of the most important skills anyone can learn ever. Even if there's no global pandemic, even if it's just your regular life. I know for me, whenever I get an opportunity to actually do that, which I'm not great at, but like when I'm in the middle of shit, but when I'm actually able to do that, it's the best possible thing that can happen. So I like weed so much. It's like it chills you out sometimes. And you're just like, all right, take a beat. Take a step back, bro. Why don't you see what's going on?

Yeah, it sounds so obvious, but it only hit me really in the last few months why meditation is so important. Like if we see ourselves as, again, using a metaphor as like computers, then we need like processing time. And we are flooded with all of this information. And so many people are zapped out because of excess stimulus.

Yeah.

Light pollution, sound pollution. And I didn't really answer your question 'cause you asked me what I do as far as ritual. Well, I think paying attention to where the cycle of your body is, whether you're feminine or masculine, but if you're feminine or you have a period, knowing exactly when your period is and really connecting to that blood magic, I know it sounds weird, but I think it's becoming less and less weird all the time. The fact that it doesn't sound weird to me now is proof that it doesn't sound weird 'cause I'm sure in the previous lay photo, we're like, "Oh, weird." It doesn't sound weird to me, yeah.

Yeah, I'm reading a book right now where I just got a book called "Holographic Blood." And I can't remember the author's name off the top of my head. It's a really good cross-section for you. It's like a book written for you.

I know, I'm like obsessed with it right now. And he talks of, and unfortunately, he's, he passed in this realm. But he talks about how blood is alive, but in the U.S. doctors don't look at live blood. But he, so he had to go to other countries to learn to study the live blood.

Do you know what Denise does? Is she doing live blood analysis for the past six months? She was just finishing up one of her things. Yeah, she's amazing. - That's so cool.

She has a dope mic for scrope. She's, oh, she's gonna freak out when I tell you.

Oh my gosh, I want her on Horapod.

You totally, she would be an amazing guest.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's nice for shit.

I have goosebumps right now. Whenever I just get goosebumps to me, that's like an omen of, of ultimate truth is what I call it.

Show of it.

That is so cool. But he talks about how in the live blood, you can read your energy. I know it sounds really woo, but under microscopes, he says there's real images of what's happening inside of your energy field on a holographic level. So like he did live blood from someone who is pregnant and he could see the fetus in the blood and there's pictures of it. Yeah, in the book. So just doing ritual with your own blood, even if it's just giving it back to the plants or the earth, I love connecting to the earth as well as the sky at the same time to balance both the masculine and the feminine. And right now we just have the fall equinox.

So it's about balance. So balancing the masculine and feminine, balancing your dark and light day and night. Today we'll have equal amount darkness as sun in the northern hemisphere. So it's about what I'll do in this ritual is honor the fruits of my labor. It's just to celebrate what I accomplished in the summer, even if I'm like, oh, I didn't accomplish any work or whatever, just pick out the things I did. It's just the fact you got through it is an accomplishment at this point. Yes, for real. And then by celebrating the life that was, we're able to make room for the death that's to come. So this energy between September and Halloween, the veil gets way super thin, arguably the most thin at any other point in the year.

So we've been seeing a lot more ghosts and spirits around during this time of preparing for the death. And we also want to do spiritual protection in this time. So I've been getting out salts and mixing it with like black tourmaline, chungite, mugwort. I love Yarrow and Angelica root as protection herbs. And I literally just mix it in a bowl and say affirmation of protection. The other thing about being a hologram is if we are truly a hologram and it's about perception, affirmation is spell and it's so important. So just pouring into the salts of protection and then putting it on the window seals or the doorways.

And it's the herb that shows up as Angelica root and the fruit is apple magic. So witches do a lot of magic with apples like bobbing from apples came from pagans. And apples are the symbol of death. Like you've bit the apple and then it was like you're gonna die, you know?

The downfall is from there, yeah sure.

Yeah, it's all your fault. So witches use the apple as knowing the death is going to come, death isn't as scary when we're prepared for it, when we're grounded in it.

Yeah, yeah, I love it. I mean, and I also whenever I think of death, you know, there's obviously physical death that we think about and we have physical things to remind us of that. But more often than not, in life, it's a psychic death. It's a death of self, it's a surrender to a different or newer version of yourself. It's not really either of those things. It's still always you and it's not newer or older, but like it's moving into what you would be saying is a different holographic projection. Yeah, I mean, it makes a ton of sense. I didn't know any of the bad about apples. I love apples. Some of my favorite fruit probably, why not?

I know, I love them too. I've been eating them like crazy.

Me too.

Oh my God, my, yeah, my mom has a tree on her road. And like, I guess it's just been there forever up to her house and like all these apples were there and they just pick them and they're like the best apples I've had and there's like a boutique apple place like down the block. So it's just been apple bounty. I love this time of year. I'm bucking it a little bit by going to Turkey on the Mediterranean, but I love this time of year. It's a really nice kind of reminder when things slow down. You see all the leaves start to die if you're in a place where it gets cold like you're in the hemisphere.

And like, I don't know, it's just, it's cool. I've always enjoyed it. Like the long sleeves, the sweaters, the hoodies.

I know, just you saying it, I like feel good and my body. - It's good times.

Yeah, it's good times. So I definitely. - Are you just glitter guided meditation?

I'd listen to Noah talk about fall.

I get asked on the Patreon a lot. I basically just have to like carve out some time to do what people are asking. Like enough people ask me it and I probably should just do it.

Yeah, guided, you know, funnily enough, I've been falling asleep. I had like a weird bout of insomnia for like four, five days. And like, I really couldn't sleep and it sucked. And I've never really had that too much in my life. And I was like listening to all these guided meditations, falling asleep. And you know, like these things are like six hours long. I'm like getting like two, three hours into them. Like, Jesus Christ, like, how does this person record this? He's like all like, they're not looping. It's crazy. But thank you. I appreciate the compliment.

Yes, yes.

So talk more about this live blood stuff and what you're finding out from it because like that is particularly interesting to me 'cause I've been seeing my partner get into it. But what I know for what I know about it, you know, why the benefits of looking at something live as opposed to when it dies, what the potential benefits would be, the imaging is certainly different. And there's a lot of different telltale signs of what's going on inside of the body through the blood, which makes sense. What have you learned about the live blood stuff?

Yeah, so I often like to pretend that I'm a neuroscience and a biologist because I'm so obsessed with learning about the body because they see the body as a program from the mind. So our mind is constantly making up how our body feels, how it appears to the external world.

For a while, I didn't believe that 'cause I haven't always been the biggest fan of how I look.

Yeah.

So I would say body dysmorphia.

Totally.

But then I realized, oh, my mind was totally doing that. There were different parts of my body that were like shifting, hormones only, or I was like gaining weight at different times. And I realized, oh, that weight was my protection. Oh, that hormone stuff, I was tapping deeper into my masculine because of my own father wounding. And it was, sometimes it can sound so self-blainy in the spiritual realm, like, oh, you're choosing that. You're choosing to be ugly or you're choosing to be sick. But I don't see it as that we're choosing it from our mind, necessarily. I think so much is happening on the subconscious realm.

Yeah, yeah.

And a lot of times our wounds will take the wheel or our five-year-old self will start taking the steering wheel. And we'll be like, well, I didn't want this car accident, but our five-year-old self got the wheel that morning and sort of was throwing a fit about not being seen or feeling rejected. And we had the news on and music and all this distraction so we couldn't really feel that our five-year-old self was panicking. So then that pain body collides with another car and that five-year-old self is like, look, do you see me now? And then spirituality then blains us because we created that. But it's like, yeah, in a roundabout way, we created it.

But we come with these wounds that sometimes take the wheel.

Totally, I mean, like anyone who doesn't believe that, just wait. (laughs) Trust me, it'll happen. There will be something. I think knowing that the best we can do is try to our best to get good at identifying when we're running out those patterns or wounds or trauma. Just like, that's the only thing you can do it first is identify it. I don't even tell for my-- - That's such a huge part.

Yeah, like even for me now, like, I've almost, I won't say I've given up, but like, I don't try to even stop some of these things when they're going on and I identify them just because I recognize the most important things is being able to identify them and then later action will inevitably follow if it's something that like, I suppose an issue. But yeah, I mean, like, this is just how we kind of run through things, taking, I don't want to say control, but having awareness of like, when that's happening, allows you to potentially using the programming analogy or metaphor, you can essentially program another way of reacting or a way to transcend something, not in like, oh, I don't want to deal with it or it's not important.

Like the trauma and all of this stuff that we process and we go through is very functional. Like, that's the most important thing to remember. If you view it as kind of like a bad thing or just pure chaos or evil or a malevolent force, you're demonizing something and like demons are pretty strong and they'll probably rock your world, especially if you created them, it's you. Like you're the only one who can actually like, fuck with yourself at the end of the day. So like, if you create a demon out of something, that shit's going to really mess you up. So being able to identify and then recognize, even if not immediately, that there is functional value for going through these things, that it probably is trying to teach you or allow you to grow in some real beneficial way for your life and the people around you, that can help.

And I will totally acknowledge that that's not easy, usually. It's not like this thing where like you just get to like, you know, waltz through it and like, oh, no big deal. Like the reason that we have words like trauma and you know, like distortion and like psychic issues and all of this stuff in the world is 'cause like it is. It's like, it can be very, especially if you're sensitive, it can be a lot to process. But yeah, I mean, it's good. I don't wanna say it's good, but there is a use to it. It's not like torture. If you start thinking it's torture, I think you're liable to fall into some type of like long-term depression or like a weird form of psychosis.

It can go either way, just because like, it's not, it's not.

Yeah. And when you start to see it as torture, which I definitely have, and I think I still go through periods.

Totally.

Of like being, like feeling like a victim because of what I've been through. And I don't stay there very long now, but I just like, I'll visit there. But then I quickly realize that I do have control of my perception. Even when something shitty happens to me, I'm like, I let myself feel the darkest timeline of it of like, oh, I just wrecked my car. I don't know why this is my example. Clearly I do not want to do this. But oh, I just wrecked my car. Like this is the worst. I'm not going to be able to buy a new one. Like I let myself feel all the bad things and worst timelines, worst scenarios with that.

And then by experiencing it and feeling the emotion in it, by feeling the emotion, I release some of that emotion. And then I can perceive it differently. I had a really whack-a-doodle psychologist as a teenager when I was removed from my parents by social services. It was mandated that I went to this psychiatrist. And now I see her as a holographic healer, but I didn't have the words for it at that time. And she was very straight-laced on the outside. But internally, she was like telling me about time travel. And she was like, I was like 12, 13. And she was like, you are magic in a way. People are not going to fully understand.

And she's like, you can travel back in time and reprogram the information of the trauma that was done to you.

Totally.

And by reprogramming it, I'm changing reality. So now I do that with people. And it's really cool because you can like bring, you don't have to re-experience the trauma. I wasn't going to talk about trauma.

You know, it's a natural thing.

Yeah, and you don't have to re-experience it to heal it. You can just take a person to their home when they were 10 and leave synchronicities, or gifts, and talk to that 10-year-old from your 30-year-old perspective. And you're being a guide for them. And specifically by leaving gifts or synchronicities or numbers or songs, you're encoding that timeline. Does that make sense?

It makes a lot of sense that something occurred to me when I'm hearing you say this, because that's something that I came across with Neville Goddard with this rewriting past and these imaginal things. But it occurs to me that if you may be someone who hasn't come into direct contact with your guides yet, you may be a guide for someone else. And by doing what you just described, what do you think the person who you're taking back and leading whether it's you or someone else? And you can certainly do it for other people. What do you think that experience would feel like for them? They'd feel like there's some benevolent guardian angel helping them get across like a difficult time and a traumatic experience.

So we're always interfacing with each other as the one and I think the more flexible we can be about how all of this stuff fits together and works, but keep the intention of like trying to make it like pretty fun and cool. Overall, it doesn't mean there won't be dissonance and discord and disharmony at times. It just means overall, if that's kind of our vibe, I seem to have found a lot of people in life purely based on that intention and kind of way of thinking than any other thing. Like there's no explanation. I used to be like, oh, well, you know what it is? I smoke a lot of weed. So like I'm around a lot of people, you know, and they smoke a lot of weed and they tend to be chiller.

But now like the majority of my friends, like I'm just like the last remaining stoner from everyone. Like I'm the one smoking weeds though. Most of my friends are just like, yeah, I smoke once in a while, it's no big deal. But so it's not that, but it is an intention of like trying to genuinely help yourself and help other people and also knowing that that's okay, that that's not like an intrusion or something bad or that of course knowing that it's possible. So I love that, I love that.

Yeah, when I do it with other people, I'm not really there in the room with them. I just help them set it up. And one of the biggest things is asking them what they would bring their younger selves as a gift. And some people have such issue receiving at all, but especially like receiving pleasure. Or they had voices in their head telling them, you don't deserve this unless you clean your room. You don't have good grades. You can't have this. So they're already trying to make their younger self work for it or punish them. It's like, it's really cool to just be an observer and watch how people interact and dance with their younger selves.

It says so much about who they are right now.

It really does. I think some of the more powerful work I've ever done has been going back and interacting with my younger self. Just seeing how I reacted and was trippy enough as it is, but then having the ability to actually provide some, you know, most people feel like every five or 10 years that like the person who they were five or 10 years ago was pretty stupid and didn't know that much. So if you had the ability to go back and be like, hey, listen, you know, you're doing pretty good. You're gonna end up in a great place. You know, here's some extra help or here's a hug or whatever it is. It really does cascade forward in what we perceive as linear time and people would be amazed.

I think if they tried some of this stuff just earnestly, you don't even need to do that much. Like here's the thing, like, I think the reason I feel compelled to still speak about a lot of this stuff is like I'm not that diligent. I'm not like this, I don't, I meditate less than anyone I know who does this stuff. Like I don't really, I'm really like on the fringes of like actually putting in like the work in reality to do it. Yet what little I do pays enormous dividends. So it doesn't mean that's gonna be like it for everyone, but it does mean that like it's not to do with like, you gotta sit down and meditate for 10,000 hours and then contemplate what dying is like and think about that and do 10,000 different rituals.

It's really just about finding what works for you genuinely. And when I say what works for you is like, what feels right? And you can change that. You're not locked into like some rigid protocol for the rest of your life, so yeah.

Yeah, I think the opposite of healing is rigidity. You know, like rigidity is so hard. And just doing it once is healing. We are like in our culture, we always wanna plan and schedule ahead. And I just tell people like do it once, do it one time, journal about it. You don't ever have to do it again. 'Cause a lot of people won't start that first time because they're so scared of not making it again next week or not doing it consistently. But judge themselves for being inconsistent. And that inconsistency is actually freedom. Magic is so connected to inconsistency. It's hard to predict an outcome of a spell or a ritual.

And it's like embracing that inconsistency can be so fucking fun and like, and when the world is in this big shift right now, sex energy is so important too. And that's not something that we can easily predict an outcome and like sometimes the best sex is the inconsistent energy of it.

Yeah, no, I mean, it's true. And like sex is the joining in the physical of the masculine and feminine, not alone. And I don't mean it has to be a man and a woman. It's just those energies are what are the attractive forces. And that could be between anyone. But it really is like a representation of that balance you were talking about with the pagan stuff. And just like all I think great wisdom traditions, religions, philosophies, whatever you wanna call them, understand that balance. Understand the mind, matter, balance, the father, mother, the sky, the earth. Like these archetypes aren't compelling for no reason.

It's because they genuinely symbolize what we're trying to do here in terms of what I would say is maintain, like I don't know if people are aware of this. It's a tremendous amount of energy required to stabilize what we perceive as this reality. It's insane. It doesn't like people don't even recognize it 'cause if we just do it, we're like, oh, we're alive now, I'll be alive for this long. This is how it works. But that's really like not what you're just seeing a subsection of what's actually going on. It's, I think when you take enough psychedelics you go deep enough into like meditative work.

You know, if you really plunge into this stuff and contemplate it, you'll come across these very interesting, I don't wanna say boundaries, but these liminal kind of boundaries between things. And it's like, whoa, whoa, like this is like not just what you are perceiving it to be. There is a whole other dimension and function for this. And it requires like to think up of time and stitch it together linearly in an experiential way. Number one is just one way to experience reality. Number two, like that's complicated. That's like a complicated process. Everyone is engaging in who's on this frequency.

And I think, you know, it's no wonder people are getting overwhelmed and it's getting weirder 'cause I think people are becoming more aware that their consciousness and thinking and thoughts and feelings are literally generating their physical experience of this place. Like that's, I think that's what's going on essentially.

Yeah, and in my perception, we're, we gods, being autonomous, being to create our own reality. We're, we are creating our own reality with our perception. But I also believe that there's the energy of the matrix and the word matrix derives from the word mother. So the matrix is sort of this artificial mother. And the matrix main goal, like according to witches is to take the being from the earth mother and have them sort of succumb to the mom matrix artificial mother. So taking them out of nature, plugging us in. And not that I'm like anti being plugged in, I think we can make every weapon our own tool, but it has us plug in.

And by doing that, we become less of our own gods. Every time we go to this suck the tit of the artificial matrix mother, we are giving up some of our own power to a higher authority. And what I think a mass awakening is happening right now. People are getting off the tit of the matrix and they're like, Oh, I don't have to work 60 hours a week at a desk. I hate. And every time we unhook from the matrix a little bit more, the idea of what a human is completely expands. Right. So we become more in tune with our own superpowers or creating our own reality. And I feel like every time a God wakes up, there's an opposite and equal reaction or sort of rumble in the matrix to get the gods to go back to sleep.

Yeah. And a tool or a weapon of this matrix is media. The matrix uses media to sort of hijack our perception. And the word media comes from magic from witches in my opinion, the dark goddess Medea. Medea was a dark goddess and a witch of illusion, delusion, foresight and prophecy. So it makes a lot of sense to me that our media is using the dark magic of the dark goddess of illusion to try to fuck with our reality to get us in a place of fear so that we're not autonomous gods, but we still are. And that's also kind of like what I look at is like with fear and all the media and the conspiracy stuff and the divisiveness that seems to be sown there, it's like, are you better off? Are you happier?

Or like, are you doing, are you feeling better at all? And people could say like a cynical person could say, well, the point is not to feel better. It's the face reality, the hard and cold truth of reality. And it's like, reality is malleable, buddy. Like go talk to 10 different people and you're gonna get 10 completely different pictures of reality, I guarantee it. Like people do not have a consensus and that's becoming more apparent because we do have this fractured kind of like informational state. I mean, I'm always joking on Twitter that like, you know, YouTube or TikTok or the Akashic Records and it's only like, I'm only half joking.

Like you're literally creating a physical record of something, it's going somewhere. It's a part of the collective. You can tap into pretty much any element of it if you have the desire to do so, much like the Akashic Records, it's not that different. So I just, when people look at whether it's the media or whatever it is, whatever informs their opinions and beliefs, is it improving your quality of life? Is it making you feel hopefully that there is freedom is possible? It's certainly worth striving for. It's definitely worth experiencing. Do you want to sacrifice that for something that makes you feel not that great?

Like the alternative isn't like, oh, well, we got this amazing thing on the other side. You're gonna be, it's not even like the 1984 shit. There's not even a drug really. It's like, there's no drug that even does that. Trust me, I'm trying to add drugs. Like there's, if you haven't hit the drug that makes you feel like the people in 1984 where they just give up all autonomy, hasn't happened yet. So it's like, you know, I just questioning what you're doing if it's bringing more kind of positivity. I don't even want to use the word positivity, but more like potential for enjoyment. I feel like that is worth striving for.

I mean, I don't think that the vast majority of people naturally tend towards dark cynicism. You may be aware of the darkest shit ever in the world and the metaverse and universe wherever it is, but the natural tendency is not to kind of cascade into that for most people, not saying for everyone. So if that's true and you're feeling like that's kind of where you're going or what you're taking a note of like what's going on and that's how you feel, you know, recognize you definitely have the ability to step back, pull out of the matrix. The matrix is a weird term. It ebbs and flows in popular culture in terms of like really representing something.

I think we're definitely, there's a new matrix series on HBO coming out, I think in October. Like there's a clear wave going where people are recognizing like maybe you can unplug from what people are telling you. Maybe just start there.

Yeah, and it's hard to even know how it's affecting us. And I think there is like a collective PTSD happening even if we've had an amazing pandemic. There's still this sort of collective fear bubble and I talked a little bit about on my podcast how the media sort of deteriorates the prefrontal cortex in the brain. And this happens so much on a subconscious level. So for me, I'm like, the news doesn't affect me. I don't watch the news, but I do get on Twitter, you know, and I do violent images will randomly come up and I didn't even click on it. And that affects the prefrontal cortex. Well, how do we heal the prefrontal cortex?

How do we heal the brain from trauma? It's called neuroplasticity and it helps rewire the neurotransmitters. So our brain regenerates itself, our body regenerates itself. It sounds like a woo-woo spiritual thing to be like, oh, I get a new body every few years, but we literally do. And this idea of a hologram, like a real hologram, a projected image from a denser reality, you can like slice the hologram in four pieces and each piece of the four contains the whole of the hologram. So I'm talking about a 3D hologram. You have like holographic stickers. That's not the same 'cause that's 2D. So if you cut it, it's not gonna have the whole.

Right.

But this is sort of a metaphor too, meaning that each part contains the whole and I do readings on bodies. And we see it with like our palms, if you do a palm rating, you can see the whole of someone's energy field in their palm. I've been doing a lot of work around the energy of the feet 'cause a lot of people have been coming to me and they read energy from the frequencies of the soles of their feet. So they can pick up the frequencies of the earth and other dimension. I know it sounds so weird.

No, it's cool though. I mean, it doesn't sound weird to me.

Yeah, and taking care of the feet is so sacred. And even in mythology, one of the number one body parts mentioned in like ancient mythology is the feet. And in the Bible, I believe I don't, I'm not great at the Bible, so I think it was Jesus. I'm gonna assume it was Jesus who said--

It's a good guess. For someone it might be in the Bible.

Yeah, thank you. Jesus said like wash the feet of your brother.

Yeah.

And I remember, I don't know if I've told this, but stop me if I have, but I was in a women's studies class and I was super young and in college and it was a women's studies class on the ancient goddess and the paleolithic time when we worshiped the divine feminine. And it was a mundane class in Boulder, Colorado and there was a girl in the class and she just was hysterical and couldn't stop crying throughout the whole class. So the teacher was like, do you want to talk about it with the group and or do you wanna talk about it personally? Do you wanna go to a counselor? And she just like kind of yelled out that she had been date raped that last weekend.

Yeah.

And my teacher had us all put our books down and had us walk to the river. So it's Boulder, Colorado. There's rivers by the campus. And we went to this river and the professor took her out and sat her on a rock in the middle of the river. And she told us we would each take turns washing her feet and staying affirmation and spell over her feet. And at first, honestly, I was like a little hungover, 18 years old in college and I was like, why don't I have to touch this bitch's feet right now? And then I like get in the river and I'm holding this girl's feet and I can just feel the energy of her whole body.

And I almost felt like I could feel the energy of the person who perpetrated early, I elected her. And but none of that really mattered because it felt like the water was just absorbing it. And I was just like washing her feet and she started crying and I started crying and the class was crying and it was 30 people in that class and each person had an opportunity to hold her feet. And we felt this like collective shift, this cleansing. So I'm saying all that to say is that our feet can hold timelines of our ancestors. Our feet can hold just our feet alone, have the energy of the whole hologram.

And going back to the energy of the media, I feel like we're all just being separated right now.

Yeah.

And by being separated, whether it's physically or energetically, 'cause we're mad at each other for not doing this thing or that thing or being on this side or that side, by the separation is this energy of dividing conquer. I feel like the matrix can only survive if the gods are separated and divided. And by separating us, we feel less like this, this whole of the hologram. 'Cause in my opinion, we are each other and reflections of each other. So some of the things we consider superpowers, I don't see them so much as superpowers now, but I still use the word. Like when I read someone's body, I can feel what's happening in their stomach sometimes.

And I think that I got that ability during trauma, but that ability that occurred during trauma, I think happened because I just had to learn really fast that it's not that I'm so powerful that I can feel their stomach, it's that their stomach is my stomach. When you're hurting, I'm hurting. When you hurt someone, it hurts you and it hurts me. And it sounds so like hippie-lala, but learning it through the perspective of this holographic healing in the world as a hologram that we're each part of this whole. And even like, stand at even certain objects, you can move with your mind because the atoms aren't that different from you or they're a reflection of you.

Yeah, I mean, we also like for as woo as this may be sound, act out to anyone listening to this, but for as woo as this may sound, like this is also pretty much backed up by the most modern of physics, right? I mean, not just quantum physics, but just like theoretical physics in general, not even theoretical, just observable physics. They're like, yeah, there's a lot of space in between these things that we perceive as whole. So this solid is actually just vibrating at an incredibly fast rate and being strung together. Like you perceive it as solid, but it's not really. Like, I think I remember once you could fit like all of the matter if it was scrunched together on like a tip of a pen that's on a person.

Like if you took away all the space and things there, it would actually just fit on like a tip of a pen. It's like, what? Like, so it's like, we don't, again, our perception of these things. And what you're referring to is superpowers. I think a lot of this stuff is receptivity to things that we may have actually had access to when you're younger. I mean, this is why children tend to, you know, have more magical realities and experiences. And you can even look at this in like earlier cultures, not all of them, but like they have a different conception of how reality works and how time space works and dream time and all of this stuff.

I also just think like for anyone who's so sure of like what reality is, and if that's what science or whatever tells you it is, it's like, then what the fuck are dreams? Like, what do you really just think that's chemicals in your brain? Like, what's a premonition, a dream where you have a premonition that comes true? Like, what is that? What do you, like, how are you explaining this as like some linear causal reality that doesn't take us as like the individuated mediators of that? Like, I don't know, it's just, it's a weird position. I feel like to hold. I don't condemn or chastise anyone for having it.

I think it's, again, it can be very useful, I guess, to believe that. I mean, this is the idea that someone figured this shit out or is in the process of figuring it out and they're telling you what's going on. And you're like, oh yeah, it checks out. I read what they said, that checks out. They did tests on a lot of people, it checks out, but it doesn't account for those marginal, liminal things that happen increasingly too. Like, this is more prominent at this point. Like, there's very few people who haven't experienced some types of weird, whether it's paranormal or psychospiritual or synchronistic event.

Like, that's not like, I mean, I've been able to talk to a lot of people about a podcast called Synchronicity for like a long time. Like, I know that it's increasing. I remember 20 years ago, where like, this wasn't something that people really outwardly spoke about at length about. So like, we know we're shifting towards that. I just don't get, I mean, I don't know, it must be a security thing. It feels better to like, say that this isn't, that's not how it works. You know, it's not a hologram. It's not a similar, and personally, I think it's all of those things. I think we use language to describe, to the best of our ability, what we're perceiving, but like go smoke some DMT and try to report back in detail with words, every time I've done it, like, I have like, I sound like a caveman trying to explain like a complicated iPhone or something.

I don't know.

Right?

And this thing, and I felt good and voices. It's like, I don't know. It's not like, it's not a really good tool. Yet, your memory and perception of the event at the time is incredibly complex and detailed, and you are perceiving it. So, I don't know. I just wouldn't get too cocky, I guess is what I'm saying for people who like, and this goes for literally everything, and it's not to be anti-science, and it's not to discount, you know, statistics and all of these things that can be very useful. It's just recognize you're the thing that's determining whether this is ultimately resonant with your version of reality.

That's what you're doing, yeah.

Yeah, I love what you're saying right now. It reminds me of a poem, and she says, in the poem, literal people scare me, always trying to rid the world of its poetry. And I think I sound a little nuts about this hologram thing, but I think the truth is, is that I just use it as a poetic metaphor, because how do we literally explain what's happening? And I could just be nuts. I'm really open to that. But I, as a kid, I really believed I moved objects with my mind. Like I remember getting so upset and like screaming in my room, and then the door slamming when I screamed, you know? And I remember feeling like if people were gonna perpetrate against me, that I had super strength, that I could get away from them, and that could just be a delusional coping mechanism.

But it always felt real to me, and I think that's how I continuously survive.

Yeah.

It's believing in our powers.

I know that her Jessa say where she feels like if someone had a gun to her head and like shot her, like she would stop the bullet with her mind. Like she knows she would. She's not even worried about it. And I think whether that's physically true or not, which probably I'm the first believe it is, but what it really is indicating is this internal security, protective kind of confidence and belief in your sovereignty over your reality. And that means you probably won't be in a position where that's gonna have to happen once you recognize that kind of indestructible part of yourself. That's usually what we're referring to.

It's the reason that some people, I don't wanna say, I mean, you never know what anyone's going through, but some people tend to navigate all aspects of life. Pretty gracefully, right? And that could be irrespective of challenges or difficulties, but they seem to like kind of have something going on where they're like, all right, that's someone who like is somehow doing it. They're weaving it together. And that's possible for everyone. And the only thing that really determines the amount you experience and perceive that is your willingness to believe that that's like your natural state, that that is really what's going on.

This isn't a world hell-bent on fucking you over and destroying you, but if you believe it to be, it will certainly oblige. It will give you every evidence that that is exactly how it works. So the ability, again, what we've kind of been talking about this whole time is being able to step back and then program in or perceive what feels best for you. There's no shame in it and it's very useful as a skill because it seems like one of our things we like to do with growth is put ourselves through challenging situations so we can get some perspective on them and grow through them. It's annoying as fuck, but that's literally what we seem to do to increase our awareness to the point where we could be responsible enough with the true, as true to it as we can get knowledge that like, yeah, you're running the show.

Yeah, it's you. It's like, sorry, I wish I could tell you there's, you know, someone else fucking your shit up, but it's you. And that's a huge psychic load to like take. It's like, no, there's so many easy outs from that, but inevitably it does kind of feel like that every single time, so. Yeah, yeah, I think like going back and forward in time has helped me see that my higher self is me, but it's different than me. Totally. Like myself, I would like to be rich on a warm beach. And I tell people that and they're like, you can just have it. And I think there's truth to that, but I also feel like sometimes my higher self sees more of a bird's eye view.

My higher self sees the fuller picture and what I want or what would be satisfying to me in the moment isn't always aligned with my sort of higher self. And I feel like my higher self really likes interesting circumstances, being like a good story. So sometimes I feel frustrated because it's like, no, I didn't fucking choose this. I wouldn't choose this, but then I wait three months and I'm like, oh, now I understand why my higher self put me in this position. Yeah, that's a really good point. I mean, being able to resonantly tap into what's best for you when it feels like it's not best. Again, there's a certain type of person would say, well, that's just, you know, a coping mechanism.

That's just this, but it's totally not. Like if anyone who's lived life, who's gone through something difficult and really transcended it, like the person you are at the end of it is certainly a more complete and fulfilled and fundamentally better off person than the person who hadn't gone through that yet. I mean, this is why like, you know, for me, I wouldn't be eager to be jumping into a long-term relationship with someone who has like never had their heart broken. Like, I'd be like, I don't think you know what's going on. I'm sorry. Like, you know, you probably want to have some experience with that before like, you know, it's like, I don't know, me personally, it's just like, you gain a lot through things that can be very painful.

There's a great quote. I think it was from like a rabbi or something. It's like, you let your heart break because that's where the light gets in. And it truthfully is like, it's like, you know, it's like something you'd see in like a Walmart tote bag, but it is true. And it is something that like, if you can tap into like, you're saying like, you know, this sucks right now. Like this, I would never choose to do this to myself, but I'm pretty sure based on my past experiences and what I put myself through, that there is like a reason for this. It's not just some like, fuck you, you fucked up. A lot of people feel like that though.

A lot of people do feel like when they go through something difficult that like, they fucked up. I remember just in the past month thinking like, I fucked up, like, and like, listen, you can acknowledge when you fuck up. I certainly fucked up plenty of times, but it's usually you're not being punished for your fuckups. You can punish yourself for them, but like it's not like there's some like, like this idea of karma is gonna like kick in the ass. If you let it, if you feel guilty, you guilt will be delivered to you every single time. But if you understand that like, hey, you have awareness of what's going on in a situation to the best of your ability.

Things may be not lining up exactly how you wanted them to, but what happens after that? What has happened in your life after that typically? Is it hell? Are you in a worse spot? I think God and consistently worse. Usually people are tuning into this. No is the answer, but I mean, of course there are people where that's the spiral they go in, and that's their life this time around. And that's unfortunate because it doesn't have to be like that, but it's a, it happens, you know?

Yeah. Yeah, and I like just let myself be there when it hits. And again, when I allow myself to be there and really feel it, it doesn't stay as long. Recently I like wrote an whole art piece about me failing and being a failure. And I feel like a lot of people are like, just trying to shush me, like at least you didn't fail. You're okay, it's fine. But just like owning that feeling allows me to transmute it. Like really feeling what it feels like to fucking feel to taste the dirt and dust in the mouth.

There's a song I've been listening to over and over again, mainly because I want to sample it, but it's also a really good song called "Dirt and Grime." And it's just a great song, very much fits for what you're talking about. Like there's power in going to the places that are scary and dirty and dark and you really gain a lot from doing that. So don't push that shit away because there's power there too. And that's a big thing for anyone who gravitates to all the like light and love stuff. Just don't think that's the whole picture. Like you're gonna forget a huge part of your psyche, which to be honest, for most people, the majority of their psyche is dark.

They don't understand it. They don't go there. They don't export. Even for like people who do this consciously, like your subconscious is way more unknown to you than known that it's literally like it has to be like that right now in linear time. Like we can be super inflow, trust me, there's your brain and your mind is doing things you have no fucking idea about, but you can guide it with your intention and your kind of overall frequency. And if you find something that feels good, let's say pursue it. It's a probably a good idea.

Quantum physics, I believe says that we don't perceive 99.9% of everything. So there's so much is happening that we're not perceiving totally. And that's what ritual does too, is it helps open up our ESP, like our spiritual senses. Since we're usually only using five senses or we're only taught about five senses and there's so many more senses and I feel like our blood has its own sensory, like talking about live blood stuff. I can't tell you a lot about it, but I just know I'm gonna dive deeper into the blood and like talk with it and work with it more with intention of the live blood carrying the image.

And whenever I focus on something in magic, that's the downloads I start to call in. And it's been really fun playing with the energy I'm calling in. This summer I went on a road trip all by myself and I was in one of those dark places of like, I'm alone, I'm alone. And then I just started literally calling out the people I wanted to meet and I drove across the country and I met some of the most fucking amazing people. I went to San Francisco all by myself and was just going to open mics and they invited me to different parties and I ended up doing podcast episodes with all these strangers. And we ended the night telling each other, we loved each other and it sounds corny, but it felt real and I was like sober in it.

And I, after that I was like, I can literally call in all of my teachers, all of the magic. And for me that is like the root of ritual. I wanted to ask you three huge questions.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Before I get off.

Of course. - Okay. Well, this is what I really wanted to talk to you about and I start blabbing over other things. But what is like your perception of what's happening in the world? Like what do you think I'm blabbing about the Matrix and the Ma? So one question is what's your perception of that? The next question is how do you feel about the father wound and is it still affecting you? You sort of brought it up briefly. And the third question is, do you think the father wound is connected to what's happening as a collective in the world?

I'll start there, yes, 'cause that's the easiest answer. We can go into that more. The first question was how--

What do you perceive as happening with the pandemic?

Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think again, it's a rebalancing of energies. It certainly feels like a chaotic node area where we're just like ready for a huge shift in how the majority of people see the world. I think also very interesting, this is not gonna be popular. It basically sounds like eugenics. Whether it is purposeful or not. I was reading an article about, 'cause I do read the news about this shift. Believe it or not, I was reading an article about 1918 Spanish flu. And it was a larger percentage of the population that died, but the amount of deaths is about to be surpassed with this. So there are more people who have died from COVID-19.

I did air quotes there, but COVID-19 than the Spanish flu. That, however, the average mean age of death with the Spanish flu was 28 years old. The average mean death is like over 65. It's older people and my parents, they're getting to the age where that's like they're that age too. So I don't say this heartlessly, but it is very interesting to me that there's a subset of people who likely viewed this reality in a much more linear logical fashion who seem to be making a spiritual psycho-emotional decision to be like, I don't wanna be on this ride anymore. I don't wanna be here for aliens. I don't wanna be here for gender studies.

I don't wanna be here for reintegration and the recognition that like races are like an arbitrary thing to determine anything about someone. It can be something that's owned and cherished, but it doesn't have to be like this big divisive thing. There are people who do not want to experience that this time or wherever we are now. That's just acknowledged that. Now, death in and of itself is a very scary thing for people. They don't know what's gonna happen, what's gonna happen, we're gonna die, we built this whole thing, we've got the castle made of sand, why are these people we love? Like it's a very terrifying concept for most people.

I also think we're going through a radical shift, not right now, probably after this, in how we perceive death and how people transition from something like what we have now with death, which is essentially ostracized, shunned, feared, you know, trying to extend life forever, trying to put ourselves in computers, so our consciousness doesn't die, like that's like of all the things, Jesus, guys. But I don't think it's a bad thing. I think a lot of stuff is getting forced to the surface interpersonally because of some of the things that have happened with lockdowns and just kind of restricted movements, although I mean, I will say, someone who's going to Turkey, it's slightly more annoying to go internationally traveling, but like you can still do what you want, like even with the shitty American passport, like you can still kind of do what you want.

So the thing is, it's like, it's not bad. It's hard for me to say this is a bad thing. I think this is a surge of femininity. I do believe that viruses seem to be the feminine aspect and bacteria, I would say, are like the masculine. Just it's a weird thing that I need to flesh out more, but that is kind of how I intuitively feel. And I think it is this destructive, collie-like phase that we're dealing with death and destruction, but for our benefit overall, I think natural disasters will serve the same function. They won't be pleasant. They're not going to be nice for people who live on coastal properties and like homes or lives are devastated and people die.

Like it's not going to be like a fun, happy time for everyone, but it does seem to be kind of a necessary correction, if I could say like I'm in the crypto stuff. So like when the charts go up really high, sometimes they need to come back down before they can go up again. And that's kind of what I feel like is happening now in terms of like the metaphysical aspect of it. People are just waking up not to like some grand veil that's been perpetrated by the Illuminati or whoever, but they're waking up to the reality that like their emotions, their feelings, their thoughts literally create their reality.

There's a whole spectrum of how people perceive that, which can go from terrifying to liberating. It's a really wide thing and depending on how familiar you are with this type of thinking, a psychedelic certainly helped me tremendously from like a pretty young informative age to be prepared for this. It's gonna be like I said, anywhere from like very pleasant and liberating to like this sucks balls, what's happening, why is my life shit? And you will deviate like we spoke about in the beginning of this, it can happen to the best of us. I mean, no one is ultimately immune from their own shit. So if you're not actively dealing with it, you will most likely get served it some way and the tendency to blame others for your problems.

I'm in the midst of this right now, is just ultimately incredibly unsatisfying. I do think there is a level to like righteous anger and like arsenal energy that is important in everyone's life. You can't let people shit on you. It doesn't mean you need to turn into an over-aggressive reactionary like agro person, but there is some sovereignty of your reality that you have to absolutely protect and have boundaries for. That ties into your other question, which is the father wound. Fatherhood I have learned is now being a father of three with two different women and it's not what any, everyone thinks fatherhood is easy.

I think it's just most men over time have done a very inelegant job of expressing what actually is involved with fatherhood. And I mean for anyone, this goes for dads who maybe have kids all over the place and they never see their kids. They're still an energetic connection when you're a father, always there, no matter what. Even if the kids doing great and you never hear of them, they're adopted, whatever it is. There's something there. There is a wound that I think is very, very, very present now, which is this distance that you were referring to with the sky and the earth and stuff. That distance got to like a very Saturnian, platonic place, like very wide gap between this logical, mind, rational, paternal, like this is what's best for you, type of thinking and like being present and there.

And I think what we've also been talking about is essentially the name of the game here, it's a balance. Like the best father is gonna be someone who also understands how to provide feminine energy, right? How to provide aspects of being maybe the disciplinary and not all the time, this doesn't go just for fathers, but like being able to like give tough lessons sometimes. And I realize some of the lessons that I give my children are not intentional, like a lesson that my children are learning at various times or that their dad isn't gonna be there all of the time physically, that I have to explain this to them sometimes.

Like I'm going to Turkey. I will see one of you in a few weeks, the other, I'm not gonna see for a month and a half. So like really like there is these lessons that are embedded with it. I think it's really important. I just think for parents in general now, that's like a big theme that's coming up. It's both the mother and the father stuff is like, you gotta honor yourself and you have to honor your children. You can't do one or the other. If you make your life purely about your children, you're probably not gonna do a great job as a parent. If you make your life completely about yourself, probably not gonna be doing a great job as a parent.

And I think we do sign up for some level of like pretty hefty responsibility when we bring kids in the world. And kids like doesn't just have to mean literal children. That's what we're manifesting in our world are our children in a sense. If you really like, really like go deep with the, you're the God of your own reality, everything, everything. And it doesn't mean you're better than people in your life. It just means you are also responsible for their wellbeing on some level. It doesn't mean jump in and try to save the world. It just means like, if you're creating this show like this hologram, this version, like there's probably some level there.

So I think regardless of whether you're a parent or not, the father energy of distance, presence, compassion, kindness, closeness, but also like the Saturn energy of like lessons, difficult lessons, maybe not comfortable lessons, maybe being punished for things, like repercussions, like stuff that we don't tend to wanna think about is like liberated free beings. There's still a functional place for that. I think we're just now really beginning to bridge what that means. And for me, what that looks like in my life is like, I really have to be constantly evolving and defining what it is to be a father and there for my kids in a variety of ways.

So yeah.

Well said, I was into all of it, but I really appreciated what you were saying about the sort of father archetype.

Yeah.

And in my opinion, there's like this realm where archetypes live and thrive and we can carry on or embody certain archetypes within our own bodies. Like we can invoke certain gods or different magical beings. And the energy of the archetype of the father, historically like in mythology. And if you see the father as like God, father, sky, it's this energy of being there and then leaving. And there's always this wound or this pain when the father leaves. But that's part of the father's archetypical magic is them leaving.

Yeah.

And when they leave, so they like throw you, they teach you how to handle the wolves, but then they also throw you to the wolves. But part of them throwing you to the wolves is where the energy of the Saturn comes in. It's the energy of learning the lessons. We wouldn't be autonomous beings if the father archetype didn't throw us to the wolves. And that's the best case scenario, right? Is the father archetype that's there sometimes?

Sometimes, yeah.

And leaves. And then the worst one is if we have this huge abandonment wound from the father.

Right.

And you can see it in people's energies if they've had that huge abandonment wound. They're often way more rigid with their own boundaries, more tense in their body, like have more knots in their muscles, the feeling of the weight of the world on their shoulders. Like when I read feminine bodies and if they have like, you know, broad or tight, tight shoulders or their shoulders kind of scrunch up to their ear, that just tells me that they've had to lean into more of their masculine and put the weight of the world on their shoulders.

Yeah.

This is good. I can tell you, Denise is gonna love this episode. I gotta connect you guys for the podcast too. I think it would be great.

I would love to talk to her about live blood and just connect with you again.

Yeah, that's cool.

I did a reading with her and I was so nervous during the reading 'cause I knew it was your partner.

Yeah, she's awesome.

I've always been like nervous that it wasn't a good reading.

No, no, she talks about it to this day, so for sure.

I love that. So yeah, in the body, we like hold this energy of the masculine in these rigid boundaries and it doesn't have to just come from men or the gender male, but the masculine energy is more of a dominant energy in the external. So this is an energy of like coming out of the body or out of the hologram. And feminine is when we go internal and we crave the masculine because they hold that dominant energy and actually it makes us more safe when someone else is holding the dominant energy. I don't know if that makes sense, but if someone's like projecting outwards, we can relax in ourselves 'cause we're like, "Oh, they're gonna take care of it."

Right.

And as a strong feminine, it was hard for me to be honest a lot of time about, I love the protection energy from the masculine and the energy of positive reinforcement or affirmation.

Right.

And realized, "Oh, that's what we seek the sky for. That's what we seek God for."

Totally.

Is protection and like positive affirmation, "Am I doing this right? Am I doing okay?" Where the mother will hold us, bur thus and kill us, destroy us.

True. I love it. I love it. I love it. We should do these more regularly. They're amazing.

It's so fun talking to you.

It's so fun talking to you. Where can people find you? You're doing these readings, holographic stuff, what's your podcast or a horror pod? What tell people where they can find you?

Yeah, I have a podcast called Horror Pod and it's kind of about transmuting trauma through pleasure, through sex magic, through poetry, through art. So it's a really mixed bag of herbs, holographic healing. You can book a reading with me at lacyfree.com or support me on Patreon, at patreon/lacyfree. We do like a herb of the month and sometimes I do live readings on there.

Amazing, amazing, awesome. Thank you for doing this.

Thank you for having me and enjoy Turkey.

I will.

So are you gonna make episodes from there?

Yeah, yeah. I bring in my recorder. It's a totally different vibe. You know, it's the Mediterranean on boats and stuff, so.

It's nice.

I need it, I need it. I want to hear about it.

Yeah, yeah. All right, cool. Thank you.

Thank you. Bye.

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