Is Astrology Even Real with Starlite

[Music] Welcome to Synchronicity. My guest this week is Starlight. You can also find her on Twitter and Instagram, Bimbo, Astrology, Underscore, I think is in there. I'll get that sorted for you in the links. Really fun conversation. I've been meaning to have Starlight on for a while. I've known her for, I guess, a few years at least from the earlier days of the podcast. Just a cool person. Always had insightful comments and things to say and just questions. Then I saw her really getting into this Vedic Astrology stuff and I was like, "Oh, she really seems like she's getting something here." It was presented in a way that was accessible for me enough for me to be like, "Here's the thing with Vedic Astrology. It is complex.

Here in this conversation, it's not like, "Listen, regular astrology, whatever regular quote unquote astrology is, is complex." Vedic Astrology takes it to another level. You're using sidereal castings instead of tropical, so everything is already shifted, which brings up the eternal question of how real is this stuff. If one day I'm a Libra and one day I'm a Scorpio or one day I'm a Cancer and one day I'm a Taurus, well, that would be weird, but Gemini. It kind of fucks with people's heads and we get into that. We get into how the divine arts astrology, tarot, these types of things can be valid for you as a person.

She has a really nice perspective on how to look at astrology as a tool that can actually help you and be something that's practical, which we like practical things. So I think you're going to like this conversation. It's fun times. All right, few things, Patreon, Rockin'. We are smashing goals and boundaries there. I am happy to see. You know sometimes you get stuck on an Instagram follower threshold. Right? This happens for me. I don't know. I don't buy followers, so I don't know how it works, but basically you get stuck somewhere and you're like, "Oh, no, what do I do? It's not going past." Patreon is the opposite of that. It just keeps blowing through. I'm glad people are getting it. We have bonus episodes every Tuesday.

That's super fun. Live readings, weekly readings for tarot, for the patrons. It's fun. We just have a good time, basically. So you can check that out. Christ Consciousness readings. We are now here, what? December 13th. There's a couple more weeks of these. There's a few more spots. There's not a ton. So I think I've limited it to two or three a day, so we have like a few more, but not a ton. If you're called to do that, they're fun. I do them every year. I do them once a year. That's it. And then also, I want to mention this, and it's maybe not for everyone, but it's maybe for people who understand it's for them, is I've recently been exploring.

I've been doing these things for a while with friends and just kind of interested parties where we do basically like MDMA, not therapy sessions, but like, you know, if you haven't done MDMA or you have, and you've taken maybe in like a recreational setting, when done with intention and tensionality, it can actually be a pretty profound like heart opener and just kind of lets things flow in a way that maybe they otherwise wouldn't. You kind of rediscover love in certain aspects. And so I've been offering this for people, you know, who want to kind of experience that. Starting in January, I'm going to do that for interested parties. This is for two to four people.

This is not a solo session. I do not want people here alone doing MDMA, you know, in my place. That's just like not the vibe. But this is for people who are trying to like actually communicate better, want to understand themselves better, enhance their relationship with someone. This, of course, could be for people in romantic relationships. This could be for coworkers, family members. I'm so I'm opening that up. And you can say, Noah, what qualifications do you have? Well, I don't know. What qualifications do you have? I don't think people are going to have a good time. We set the vibe. It's cool stuff. We have high-grade stuff. You know what I mean.

Anyway, if you're interested in that for now, just shoot me a DM on Instagram or an email at Noah@sinkpodcast.com and I'll fill you in on the details. But I will officially be rolling this out before the new year so you can sign up there if it's something you're interested in. And again, this is for people in the New York area. I'm a train ride away from the heart of the city. So it's doable. We can do it. So yeah, if you're interested in that, it's a weird thing, but it's kind of fun. You know, you look at like what you like to do. And what I've just realized is communicating with people, speaking with people, helping people see things from maybe a different perspective at times seems to be something I'm not only good at, but always come away feeling kind of energized by. So that's what I'm trying to focus on.

I just try to look at the things in my life. I encourage you to do this too and find the things that are actually like they feel like, "Wow, I feel good after that." And that doesn't always have to be a way that you're making money, just to be clear. Just do those things. And obviously if it can facilitate some way of making money and it feels authentic and it's a good value exchange, go for it. There's no reason it can't be. I see people doing, you know, there was an article where, you know, the sagers who go to houses before people buy them, like super rich people will pay these people like tens of thousands of dollars to go sage their house.

Fuck yeah. Get it, girl. Do what you got to do. I'm a man's sage. I've sage many a place. People want to pay you for it. You take that money and say thank you. I appreciate it. It's just an energy exchange. That's all it is. Anyway, that's going on. That's it. I don't have anything else to say. I think you're going to enjoy this episode without further ado. Here is Starling. All right. All right. Well, welcome to the show. Starlight is the name we're going with on this one. I'm super excited to speak to you about this. We've been planning this for, I feel like, over a year at some point, like we've just constantly kind of like bounced back, like, you know, trying to schedule this and, you know, it always happens when the time is right, but I'm super excited to have you on it and talk about some astrology stuff.

Yeah. It's really, really good to be here. Yeah. Um, so I, you know, you are, are someone who I look to for, like, Vedic astrological wisdom and for a lot of people who don't know the difference or aren't familiar with the difference. Like, how would you distinguish between, like, tropical and sidereal, but specifically Vedic, which is like, there's a lot going on with Vedic astrology. But if someone like just came up to you and they don't really know much about it, they maybe know their son sign and their tropical, like, how do you explain to people, like, how Vedic astrology is useful and how it differs from traditional tropical systems. Yeah. Okay. Well, that's a really good question.

So honestly, the answer to that would have been different when I just got into Vedic astrology than it is now. Like, once you get deep into Vedic astrology, you see that, like, there's so much variation within just that tradition that it's like, it's hard to even explain it succinctly. But to try to, like, compare it to tropical Western astrology, the biggest difference is that a lot of times, usually it's taught from a lineage. So there's a lot of elders involved, and there's a lot of, like, passed down information that has come that's really old. And there's a lot of spiritual tradition involved in it as well. Like, legit, geotish or Vedic astrology practitioners do a lot of mantra before they do readings.

There's really astrology is just supposed to be one piece of a much larger spiritual practice. The focus, the biggest difference when you first get into Vedic astrology is that the signs are different. There's, everything's 24 degrees behind, because they use the scenario zodiac. That's the biggest mind fucked to wrap your head around first. So that's like the most obvious difference. But I think the most tactical, like, practical difference is the remedies. I think that the remedial part of Vedic astrology is such a big part of it, where it's like, sometimes it sounds scary to a Westerner. Like, oh, this aspect is going to make something terrible happen, but it's really framed that way sometimes because there's something you can do about it.

Right, right, right. Yeah, I love that too about Vedic is like, there are, whether it's a mantra or some action you can be taking. There is like a prescription, right? It's like an Ayurvedic kind of approach to troubles rather than just being like, hey, you know, you got a malefic in this particular sector of your house. You're going to be fucked for so long. So just kind of ride the wave. Like, it is a very active. Like, and it's also what you said. It's important to recognize like, this is a spiritual modality. Right. This isn't just like looking at something that's going on, like a weather report, but it really does have to do with kind of people's innate spirituality, which I think people in the West are beginning to kind of come into contact with.

But generally, it's not typically approached like that. So I love that there is like, can you get into like an example or some examples of like some of the remedial or things you can do if you get like a weird placement or kind of energies come in your way? Like, what are some of the things that would be prescribed? Yeah. So, well, it's such a big, again, like a huge topic because different people will give different types of remedies. But let me think. So, so for example, well, okay. So, so Rahu is like the north node of the moon in Western astrology and in Vedic it's seen as sometimes like a very disturbing, malefic kind of influence.

So, it can be associated with great opportunities as well. But basically, if you have to do a Rahu remedy instead of being scared, so say you're going to start a time period that's run by Rahu. A lot of people freak out and they're like, my life is going to just completely turn upside down, which is never the truth. What's what really happens is things might just become, there just might be more high, higher highs and lower lows. Like, and sometimes you want to like own that energy and tame that energy. So, there's different kinds of remedies you can do. The best thing you can do is sort of like do like the spiritual work.

Do the meditation, make sure that you're like in line with your spiritual path so you don't get hit with any curve balls because you made some like hasty bad choices. So, that's sort of like, I think the most practical like preemptive way to remediate any effect of any planet. But then there's also something you can do that's more like the external service based realm, which is like Rahu really likes reforestation. And so if you say donate, I love tithing personally, tithing to like a reforestation group or an organization that plants trees, that's something you can do that will kind of just help you feel like you're doing something to help that influence.

And you know you're building, you know you're doing something good when you do that. Right, right. But there's other ways of remedying as well like cleaning the toilet is like something I've heard that will remedy Rahu or you know that's funny I just did that like a couple of weeks ago yeah well my, my lovely wife pointed out like maybe you should clean your toilet. I've had kids it's just like a constant you know battle with it with the toilet but I actually did that and it did feel in like a weird way kind of like a spiritually liberating thing to do it's not something I do very often but it like it felt like it was symbolic of something more so it's interesting to hear you say that nice little synchronicity that you're bringing up there that's cool yeah well cleaning can be very very spiritual and like Venus love apparently Venus really likes like that's a really good Venus remedy is just to clean in general So how did you get kind of immersed in this world of Vedic astrology like what what were some of the like trigger points that kind of pull because I've seen you know we've known each other for you know a number of years now and I've seen you kind of like at least publicly on Twitter speak about this more and I've seen you just kind of have what appears to be a more commanding understanding and way to communicate this stuff like what drew you specifically to Vedic astrology like what kind of got you into that realm Oh well I've been studying astrology since I was like 12 so I've just always been into astrology but I accidentally found a book so there's something called Nokshatras which you yes that's like usually like the gateway for Westerners so basically like 27 parts 27 like mentions of the moon basically each zodiac signs basically divided into three parts that are that are like little mini signs within the signs and I found a book on this like honestly like a really long time ago at a use bookstore I didn't even know about the scenario zodiac I got really intrigued it was by somebody named Prash Travetti and I didn't at first I had miscalculated where my placements were because I was calculating based on the tropical zodiac right right classic but I quickly figured it out like oh and you know fixed it so I was intrigued then that was years and years ago but to be honest because there was so little information about Vedic astrology at that time it was just too confusing to be into this topic that and then have this different zodiac you know I just couldn't do it so I kind of tabled it but in the back of my mind I was like I don't know if I should be trusting the signs you know so I was like hmm focusing on aspects for years and then in like 2020 I was dabbling and I think it was there's this woman named Joni Petri who does these predictions and things on YouTube and she she used to be tropical astrologer she basically before in like February 2020 she was like I don't know what's gonna happen she was predicting like a terrorist attack or something but she was like you need to stay home forget the date but it was pretty much the date that like the pandemic was like stay home and I was like really impressed by that and she also predicted that Trump was gonna win in 2016 nobody was predicting that so yeah so that was kind of what made me be like you know what like I'm gonna die then and then of course I have like a year and a half to just study hard so so that was kind of like the trigger for going like fully into Vedic astrology that's cool I think everyone I mean I don't want to say everyone because some people just haven't like even explored it at all but it is this weird there's almost a resistance when you've been working with a certain modality for a while especially in like you know the divine arts in the metaphysical world like when people hear there is a completely different not even just one but many different ways of looking at the stars and the planets and the ethereal bodies when we're used to one way of kind of doing it and then our perspective is shifted right it's like it takes some time to process it right it isn't always just like a full sale yeah this makes perfect sense and that's certainly kind of been my relationship with Vedic astrology some of the best readings I've ever received astrological readings have been purely Vedic like no nothing to do with tropical and I always found there to kind of just be this deep mystical component to them but again like trying to break through that initial barrier into that realm it is intimidating and it is daunting and it can be confusing right when you're talking even about like not shot shot dress like these are lunar nodes that are fixed places that you know correspond to different energies within the signs and like for a lot of people astrology just with the housing system is complicated so you add all these other facets and Rahu and Ketu and all these things you're like oh my gosh what's going on so like what kind of made this make sense to you I know this is kind of a weird question but like you know like what kind of helped put this together in your mind that this was a system that not only held potential value but really was like an effective way of looking at astrology well first of all like I've always been a skeptic of astrology I always have been like is this even a thing totally totally totally and also I'm not like a big I'm like I wanted to ask you at some point like your thoughts on like free will also cause like I'm not a big I don't like like the fatalistic point of view on these things but so I don't know if things ever really make sense to me right yeah yeah yeah one thing about Vedic that's cool though is it gets more and more complex and more you get into it so you kind of hit a wall where you're like oh you're not obsessed with feeling like you understand it all because you'll never understand it all right because they go into so many mathematical calculations of like it's just the math keeps getting deeper and deeper it never ends so there's a really cool like point of just sort of where you're kind of just on the path of inquiry that you don't feel like you've nailed it so so that's kind of where I live like I don't really think I've figured anything out but what helped me mentally what helps me mentally understand and I don't know if this is really your question but basically the tropical zodiac is based on this equinoxes so it's not that it's not legitimate it's just not aligned with a constellation so tropical areas is not on the areas constellation but it is aligned with the spring equinox point and the thing about the tropical zodiac that it has going for it is it doesn't move because the equinox points don't move so right so it's something you know when we see those cardinal points like tropical zero degrees areas like that's a real point in the sky for me the issue is linguistic we're calling it areas it's very it's it's a linguistic research nightmare to have two different groups of people being called the same thing totally so that for me and so the thing that's been the most of a breakthrough for me is is is relabeling in my mind like what is a early spring baby because I'm an early spring baby I always hate it being called an area so it's kind of easy for me to be like I am I was like insisted I was a Pisces right on the cuz right so it's easy for me to make that that switch of like oh I'm a Pisces but it's like I'm an early spring it's an energy early spring is still an energy but it's but I'm a Pisces siderially so right so a lot of thinking and it takes a lot of time to be able to integrate all these different categories so I don't know if anything ever just like clicked and started making sense but just being just constant being curious about it for so many years right right it's like you got immersed and curious and excited about something for long enough that you basically just aligned with it you don't have to fully understand why or the every aspect of the infinite complexity that it has to offer but like when it feels right it feels right and I think a lot a lot of times when we're dealing with like I refer to astrology as like a divine art right it is in some way divination in the purest sense trying to get in touch with the larger aspect of everything the universe God whatever you would like to call it and our relationship to that and where we fit in and also related to the world at large and relationships and all the things we go through as beings on this planet and it is a very like felt process it's not something even that intellectually is like patched packaged and reasoned together like that certainly was my journey into astrology and tarot specifically like these are things that I intellectually kind of understood were out there and could see that they were something but never could actually understand them or feel what that meant and then you know it happened it was just like something like oh I get what the energy is behind these things are it really starts like I feel that it makes sense I don't know exactly why it makes sense but I feel whatever the thrust and the energy behind this is and I think in Vedic astrology particularly I've noticed like that is kind of baked into it right it is kind of like this spiritual journey and a map we kind of get to discern certain aspects of it it's always kind of felt like and you know I know there are specific energies like dealing with like gurus and specifically past lives and you know all of these concepts you know are very tricky in a lot of ways because you know I get asked this a lot you know like what do you believe about past lives or you know different dimensions and all you know timeline jumping and it's like for me until I find something that negates this it just seems to be like all of it is real all of it is illusory it's where you align kind of your beliefs and your feelings that determine the reality of any of those things like that will be your experience if you are a defined scientific materialist who denies any aspect of consciousness to affect reality then that is probably what you are going to see in life like regardless of how magical and numinous it is to the person standing next to you your perspective is fundamentally shape your experience of the thing so you know but I think we get drawn to certain things that feel authentic or we feel connected to or they make sense for us on some level that sometimes we can't even explain and to negate that also feels incorrect like to be like well everything is just what we make of it so nothing is really real so why should I waste my time you know getting into astrology or tarot or whatever it is and it's like yeah but it's if you're naturally being drawn to something your curiosity is trying to reveal something to you right so at least pursue it and so yeah it's like I guess it's kind of hedging your bets when I say like ultimately do I believe that like the planets and the stars are making your life this way no I really don't believe that I think if I did believe that fully then that probably would be way more of a prominent effect on my life but do I believe that these energies absolutely just by the physical properties of energies that are being admitted from them would have some type of subtle impact on like our cellular structure or our consciousness like yeah that makes a lot of sense to me too so it's why I tend to use these things as kind of like roadmaps but always kind of in the back of my head saying you know like take it with a grain of salt like don't necessarily fully invest that this is dictating the terms of your life I always tell people before readings like you know this feels like it's going to bind you or constrict you or like make you feel like this is what's going to happen no matter what like that's not the point that's you'll never hear that from me in a reading and even if those signs are there that there may be some like you know going through a trial and tribulations package for a little bit it's not something that is deterministic it is at least that's my my conception on it so yeah I mean I definitely get where you're coming from on that yeah actually my favorite way to look at astrology is like like I find it really awkward when people want me to do readings as a gift so it's like I don't really know what the person getting the reading like where they're at or what they want yeah because I feel like that for me that's such an important first step like I want to know what you want and like because really I don't see the chart as anything more than like an obstacle course so like it could go in like 30 different directions like I could have like a Saturn Venus I do I have a Saturn Venus aspect and that could look so many different ways and so the way I like to see astrology is say somebody has to say somebody has a Saturn Venus aspect but they really want to have like a really happy marriage then instead of saying oh like this chart shows a bad marriage or whatever then you say how can I on purpose implement which by the way I'm not saying that that aspect shows that but just as an example but like how can I implement on purpose Saturn's energy so that I'm satisfying this part of my chart so that I can get what I want so it kind of gives you the information of like this energy wants to make itself present for you right now or like if you have a transit right now like right now rahoos in your life so how can you welcome in rahoos so it's working for you in the way that you want instead of just catching you off guard kind of yeah I mean I think that's like what astrology in particular has to offer like I am a big archetypal astrology astrology like that those energies of those deities of those planets of those kind of celestial bodies like they represent archetypal energies feelings things that we can't even really express with words but nevertheless really do shape and kind of guide where we're going you know who wouldn't want to know that being able to take a long arc macro view of your life and see where kind of you know these stories and narratives have been shaping your behavior or relationships like who wouldn't want to have the ability to kind of know that that's something that's not more important but like worthwhile investigating if you are in a relationship that is affected by a certain aspect like it's not like this equals bad marriage means that like there are going to be energies potentially involved in these relationships where if you know are in this relationship and are committed and you know love the person would want to kind of be aware of so you could say well you know it's like getting your traumas out on the table in a lot of ways like if you're open and communicative about where you struggle and you know what you can do to like help yourself work through those things with a partner that's just going to make the relationship work a little bit better it's going to be a more honest platform for communication and like astrology does have this ability to show us areas of our lives because of the system related to houses and planets and the relationships between those like there's a lot of info there and I think one of the reason it endures as as prominently as it has not to mention that it was like it did start at the same time as astronomy astronomers typically will omit that fact and act like they were completely different sciences but they literally came from the same place you know these are things that like absolutely are available to give us insight into our lives and I think like that's that's the game that we're all playing right like we rather than feeling like you are controlled by energies being aware of what tendencies and energetic patterns make up your experience of life and then how to kind of once you are more aware of those play with them or come at it from a shift in perspective that maybe feels like it's going to be a little bit more and flow rather than fighting against something totally but also like I feel like one of your like one of the only people probably the only person that I would ever get a reading from because you share my world view of like we want to be inspired and we want to create our reality so like I don't actually think astrology is that helpful if a person doesn't have is doesn't isn't in touch with their genuine inspiration and I think it's like some people are really inspired astrology and some people just don't find it inspiring and I feel like I feel like there's something really valuable about knowing like just about getting a reading and having it empower you in some way and that's going to look different for different people or maybe some people just won't be empowered at all by a reading like I'm usually not empowered by readings I find them stressful I find you honestly I think good predictions can be even more dangerous than bad predictions you know predictions in general I feel like are almost like outrageous like audacious you know so totally but like that being able to prepare for something is really valuable to say oh Saturn might come over your moon in a year so you might want to save money right now and like you know there's ways you can start getting on good terms with Saturn to make this a really cool aspect instead of one that's typically associated with struggle yeah I could have used a lot of this insight over the past two years let me I would have been really really useful but you know we all go through kind of our our situations I personally feel like to to offer us the most so we can learn the most and like actually gain true insight and wisdom on on energies we're interested in learning about I think that's if our life is nothing else like our awareness has drawn us to all of the situations and experiences in our lives so like maybe pay attention to why that is driving you or where it's driving you towards or what generally excites you to like you you mentioned that like that that's the hallmark of doing the right thing being in the right place it's like if you are excited and curious and interested in things that naturally leads to a place of fulfillment on some level in my experience right yeah and also it can it depending on like how tapped in you are I guess so this gets into like the rafu katu conversation but it can take people to a place where they think they're they're chasing something they think they want and then it can have this like crash and burn effect yeah that sounds like it and honestly some people's lives and I think people I think people who have malefics in their quadrant houses tend to have more like high highs and low lows so yeah so that is just a thing you know and it's yeah it's I wanted to ask you yeah so you said that you forgot about the imagination creating reality or something along those lines like you said there was a point where you kind of like forgot about that you disconnected from that disconnected probably the best word there yeah for sure yeah I was just curious like I don't know that that just makes I find that I just found that really interesting and I was wondering like how you remembered it again or how you reconnected with that well I think it happened so off it's such a thing it does and I think it's important to acknowledge that too and I think especially in my case it's it can really serve as a reminder of that because I'm inundated with this stuff constantly right just from having the podcast speaking about this prominently for X number of years like I'm constantly getting emails messages feedback of you know examples that this is how reality but for me I think it it it started to turn into almost like a fight or flight response to life like I was very much operating from like my root chakra right Muladhara like security safety you know base level survival stuff and I think when you're your consciousness is relegated to those areas typically like it's not that like you're not doing the thing like I've always said this and I do believe it's like just because you're not actively using your imagination to affect or you know change your reality in some way or your experience of it it doesn't mean that that's turned off it doesn't mean that it went away it doesn't mean like that's still not the mechanism of what we're calling our experience of life it's just we can forget that we do have any degree of influence or command over that and you know if you get in like we're so shaped by habits and patterns that when you get into a routine of just reacting constantly like that I noticed like the realizations that came out of this for me were the intimate link between reactivity and lack of presence like it is very easy to react to situations and forget everything else and get tunnel vision when we're not present in our situations when we're not really like feeling the moment that we're in and the preciousness of that in some way not to be corny about it but the kind of sacredness of every moment of life and it's hard to feel like that for most people when you just feel like you're getting slammed with experiences conditions relationships whatever it is in your life that feels to be really an external circumstance and you start to buy into it right you start to say like this is what my life is going like oh well maybe I thought I knew that this is how it worked but here I am in this situation that is invalidating that experience and obviously when you or maybe not so obviously when you when you can take a step back and get a broader kind of bird's eye view of your life you do see that that still is absolutely what's going on just because you may be through some you know heavy obstacles and shit storms in your path doesn't mean that that was like an act of hate towards yourself it's it's usually a wake up call right and sometimes you do have to kind of like just get slammed so hard in so many particular ways that like you're just like alright like I get it like enough like I understand like and you kind of laugh at it in a weird way and I just think that that lightness comes with curiosity right like that playful inquisition just comes from a lighter place so you know I it wasn't easy I mean it's essentially like we can frame it also is like being disconnected from your imagination but I essentially get depressed when I don't feel connected to that active principle like it becomes a depressing existence for me and I think it's important for people to kind of be aware of that frequency and sometimes we have to go through it to some degree or another to like really understand it so without a bad thing but it can you know it can grip people for substantial periods of time and for me you know a year year and a half merging on two years of that type of energy feels like lifetimes for me it feels like that's my entire existence it's even hard to get out of that so I think it's important to acknowledge that we do kind of fall out of resonance with that as a known fact and some of us are better at remembering it but I also think that's why like there are a lot of people out there who recognize when they're catching a certain vibe like put it out for people to access because when you're not feeling so great and you hear someone else who can relate to your situation and also still say like you know what?

like it's all right like it's okay like I'm not saying you're doing something wrong or you're not supposed to feel like this but just remember there also is this perspective which you can test out and you can play around with and see if it has some sway over your reality like that's kind of the the game approach to it yeah do you feel like it's a natural response I might be like misinterpreting your situation but I do you feel like it's just a natural response to when you get when you start like getting the things that you want like the manifestations in the real world like the job and the house and the relationship and the kids or whatever it is do you feel like it's a sort of natural for us to kind of attach to those things and become less sort of like internally focused yes that's kind of because it seems just like a nut like it's not like because I heard Renee Garcia talking about this recently too and she's like very good you know she's like the reality trans surfing queen so I feel like there's something to that and I also just want to say like the place that you were in in 2019 when you were talking about Neville Goddard and I had a really rough eclipse season like 2019 like the summer right before that and you were like you and Jessa were like so good that energy was so good for me so yeah it might to some people have seemed like you know magical thinking but that's what that type of energy is helpful for me like I don't that's what I respond to so I just wanted to like go on record saying that like that was good what was happening that I don't want what happened you know what happened after probably like a natural course of like the magical journey or whatever but yeah I just wanted to like give you a shout out I appreciate it because like it's weird for me is the person who's gone through kind of like I know qualitatively you know how I feel at any given time and I know what that energy was and it was really a blessing for me and I was happy that I could kind of capture it and extemporaneously speak about it as it was taking place I don't in any way ever look at that like I had an incomplete or incorrect assessment of reality or how it works I think that is just one aspect of the spectrum of where we can be and I think that is useful and it's wonderful and I certainly phase in and out of it for periods of my life like I am sure that same kind of bright eyed magical wonderful universe thinking will permeate my being you know at many times in my life going forward but I also recognize that that's usually not how people experience life for all of it right it is not and what I became kind of interested in is how do we maintain our awareness of that as a reality or even if it's not our direct experience or we're not feeling so infused with like pure cosmic light love energy if we're not there how do we still find a place of like tranquility and balance and also like how do we find the beauty and kind of the amazingness of difficulty and tragedy and struggle and not discount them as like negative shitty things that we just want to not have to deal with because of course when that's your approach you tend to get those things but yeah that's where art I feel so I have a lot of eighth house stuff so I feel like my every day is like rapid cycle of like muck up and then like really idealistic and everything's terrible so like I feel like just sharing exactly like how you feel like putting it all out on the table and being dramatic and being playful with your darkness that's my answer it's smart it's a healthy response like that's actual shadow work I think that when we deal with like kind of the shadow stuff like we we get apprehensive at times and we get fearful and doubt and shame and these things can come in and obviously it's not our natural tendency for most people because this is not how society typically interact with each other but like we don't put that on full display we don't share it we don't say hey here are all my my issues and my fuck ups and my problems because obviously like it's a place of vulnerability right and that's not we're not naturally very vulnerable in our interactions with society it's it's it's it's rare it depends and that's something you can see astrologically it's like what and this is my like passion it's like you can see how people want to see you and what type of behavior they congratulate in you there's this one chart in Vedic astrology called the arudolacana which is like your public image so I think like I have the advantage of like I'd actually do better when I'm like on the fringes so I can kind of act however I want but some people get so rewarded for doing for following the rules and doing things right and I can understand how if that's where your support is coming from from being this like like role model or someone that seems really responsible or something then that would actually be really risky to show all of your weird toxic emotions all the time I mean I yeah it is I mean like that's not typically sought after in professional and you know romantic endeavors I mean it's just it's not a you're not putting that on your tinder or link tinder or linked in bios but I mean you know like it is it is I just I don't know any other way to be is the truth and I think that's why a lot of us who kind of find ourselves find ourselves like maybe more on the fringes or in between the boundaries of like traditional career or interests or hobbies or what we do for fun whatever it is it's almost for lack of like a better choice in some ways and like obviously we can create very cool things in those boundaries but like I don't I mean I don't know how to kind of like I can obviously self regulate behavior but I do feel the benefits from like getting this stuff out and like having it be like a cathartic experience because God knows like how fucked up I would be if I didn't do that because like it's like I mean I there's still stuff that you know gets lodged into your psyche and be unconscious that you know we can sense is there but we don't really know how to deal with it like and I'm letting a lot of stuff out I can't imagine if I was you know but it's just our experiences right I think people like honestly I think the world is just headed there like it might make you like lose a corporate job or something like I can't speak on that but I think in general people it's the same thing with like enlightened selfishness or whatever which I feel like selfishness is selfless because like nobody wants you to be yeah like so it's like people love it if you are taking care of yourself even though some people who don't take care of themselves might be offended at first ultimately people love it because they're like can I do that too and you're like yeah like we love each other by doing what we want to do and like I don't know I feel like I feel like we can all experiment more with like just being like rid like absurdly honest about how we're feeling that's just my my stance because I think the world needs that on such a deep level like for sure I mean like that is basically the biggest challenge of like if we're looking at kind of the interplay of masculine and feminine energy playing out on a global stage like that is what everyone is it's it's why personally I believe like Trump resonated with so many people and that's inconceivable for people because like they see him as a charlatan and as a liar but there was something upfront about how he was like he wasn't even trying to hide it you know like he wasn't in any way even pretending not to be this this type of like brash kind of cheaty scummy scammy guy and like that we're so lost from like a sense of honesty and authenticity that even when we see it in like a not great form where like you shouldn't want to put all of these like qualities on display people respond to it naturally because like it's it's not it's just not a really an accurate representation of like how we all navigate our individual lives and like what creates the structures that we find ourselves in to to no small extent so like honesty is a natural antidote to that but it it can be scary right I mean it's the first person you have to be honest with is yourself which can deal with a lot of kind of big psychological mental and emotional battles which you know is difficult I think for a lot of people we try to build up a stable sense of ego or and not an ego in a bad way but just a sense of self and identity because it helps us navigate the world like that is something that it is true but if you extend that too far and then solidify those aspects of identity when they're challenged internally or externally it can really put you in like a pickle right it gets it can be very difficult to kind of reconcile what's going on and and I understand that that's naturally one of the resistances for people kind of really just showing their authentic selves right and I get that like I understand where where it comes from so yeah yeah it's the idea of attachment is really interesting one thing I really I have a lot of like anxiety in general and I have a lot of that has gone away since I have been more into Vedic astrology because their tradition is so old and so connected with Hinduism that there is a there are these interesting ideas of like like it's like you're not trying to avoid death you're trying like meditation I might be like getting this wrong but I think I get it right it's like basically when you're meditating you're practicing to be very peaceful when you die like it's very important that you be very peaceful when you die it's not important that you don't die it's important that you go to the right place after and so you have to like master this peaceful place and something about that really like just has calmed so much anxiety in me because there's this really auspicious energy of like being no one and having nothing but just being at peace and there's something about about like losing yourself and losing your ego and losing your identity and not having anything and not having any money that's like very spiritually exalted in a certain kind of sense and I don't know if I'm like making sense but there's something about that and the spiritual practice around that that seems to be like a really good like antidote to this to these issues that come up with like the success of having a really strong ego and having all of the material trappings and then like the other side of that which is like the repressed compartmentalized shadow because if you let your shadow out you could fuck up your whole reputation you could fuck up your family you could fuck up but through that like spiritual practice it's like no like this is it's like you're somehow equalizing all of it yeah no that makes a lot of sense getting to the concept of non-attachment too is like a natural kind of remedy for clinging to things or like even whether it's a sense of self or material positions and again I'm not someone who like bashes enjoying your life and all of the beauty like there's there's enough of my Venus and Virgo placements that like I recognize the is a Leo Leo of course it's sidereal Leo no I mean there's enough of that Venusian energy that like I appreciate the finer things in life in a lot of ways that I don't think it's just if you're born in the West it's your Libra and scenario to just go ahead I'm a Libra rising rising I know instead of Scorpio so that would make it your chart or so yes just supporting what you're saying yeah makes sense to me it just feels like I don't have an aversion to the material aspect and it also just makes sense to me if we find ourselves in a material world that there would be some connection there to be appreciated and not just completely thrown away but I also recognize that recognizing the elusoryness of this plane of existence that it is a temporary place right there it is a finite existence in that sense of like you are alive then you're dead we're not talking about any of the barto states or anything outside of that but that it is a temporary kind of journey through time that it makes a lot of sense to not get too attached to any aspect of this reality because it would naturally bring out some anxiety or fear or clinginess and I think life like death and life are intimately linked and they both prepare us for the other and it doesn't really forget that because when we're living we're like oh I'm alive I hope this death thing doesn't come and when we're dead we're probably not thinking about you know oh what's going to be this is what everything's going to be like when I'm living we're dead so we're waiting to reincarnate in that sense but they teach us so much about each other and being able to let things fall away while we're living is such a key like don't leave you if you fight that good luck it's going to be a very painful existence because that is life but it is it doesn't it's not like sad it's not bad it's just a natural process that if you can find beauty and it really is like it helps kind of almost imbue your existence with a natural kind of magical resonance I feel like it teaches you about the specialness of what you're going through and not just like it's this little slog to get through and then you do some stuff and then you die well it reminds me of like but there's a reality transfer thing about finding the benefit if something about finding the benefit in any experience it's kind of like a trick for getting out of a rut and yes to me it's just kind of like that it's like theoretically like yeah you're here to enjoy that you're here to enjoy things you're here to figure out how to get things and then there might come a time when something is taken away from you or when you go through a transformation that's painful but then you get to say oh like that's like I've been listening to like information about like the tantric deities where they say like there's like find the joy in suffering because when you suffer you're having a spiritual transformation you're going to come out with a new like a new superpower that's not their language but like there's something about like oh is it this time now let me find let me find the perk to this time well I can tell you I've had some time to spend in that realm and I can tell you that yeah that's really what it feels like to me and I want to be clear like when you find yourself in suffering or immersed in tragedy I don't think either of us are suggesting that you immediately recognize the immense opportunity and profound transformational power that can also feel what it is feel become familiar with that it's often why when people are around dying it gives them a renewed sense of energy and vigor for living because like you're seeing the relationship between those things and it's harder to forget that one is tacitly implied with the other and so yeah I mean I love what you're saying about the superpower thing it's true and it takes time sometimes to get to that realization but like that's awesome like you become a more holistic being when you go through those experiences yeah yeah no I get what you're saying it's pretty cool well yeah I like like just real quick like Kali people she's scary to people people are usually scared of her but her job is to remove your fear so I know I think that's an interesting paradox is like being able to be fearless is like such a flex and sometimes you have to go through some shit to like get there that was a big vibe of what I was you know my downloads were in 2019 2020 is the fearlessness and like kind of the courage you take to move forward and so like you know when when you kind of get disconnected from that it becomes more of a trying battle for some of us rather than something you can just embrace and move forward and it's funny Kali Ma was one of the major deities that like I was absolutely channeling and like studying and revisiting in a lot of ways back then because she is the remover and the destroyer and it is scary at times when that happens and unsettling but like you said it's a benevolent even though wrathful a benevolent aspect of the divine and we can use that for our benefit and like harmony with that type of archetypal energy um where does where does Kali show up like in Vedic astrology like what does she have a place where she is like hanging out ruling over so so there's a lot of a lot of Vedic astrologers will tell you to not ever do anything with the Mahavadias you know totally there's that and so like to each their own with with how they would like to whether or not they want to like do mantras for them or whatever but but what I've learned is that it's the moon Saturn aspect that really signifies the Kali um so each different aspects have like different deities that are associated with them however any deities that I love deities it's like if you love a deity and you worship that deity you're good you probably don't need to have your chart read it all just like do that but but Kali is I think typically associated with I think also like a dark moon but but it's that moon Saturn combination which is a really intense combination I was going to say that's like incredibly intense to have that combo running around yeah I've actually been so humbled because I do have kind of this like rapid cycling mood thing where it's easy for me to get inspired and sort of I'm always constantly looking how to get out of this like if I'm in a bad case I want to get out of it and I know it's why I love you so I'm like okay like it's okay it's like so important to me but some people can't like my sisters like this she and I'll get frustrated with them I'm like why are you so you're just shut down and sad great what what am I supposed to do I want to help you and what I realize is it's just a different process and there's some people require more time more patients they're actually more the cynicism is providing a role for them and a lot of times people with that moon Saturn combination have that but they're also really like rocks a lot of the time they're really successful they're able they're really given a lot of responsibility they take responsibility so in a way learning about astrology is really humbling because you can see where some people are just structured differently they process differently and those same challenges oftentimes come with a almost all every time come with a very specific strength and that's actually another leads me to something I wanted to point out to which is that in Vedic astrology we have we call it a planet is cursed if it's getting aspected by more than one malefic wrong language so it's like oh like I have a cursed Venus or whatever it's intense but then there is something called like a Raj yoga when you have this combination that's like really good and will bring you like fortune and all these blessings but what I've learned recently is it's the curse that activates the Raj yoga so you need to be able if you have a good combination it's not going to get activated unless you have a really fucked up combination somewhere else so that's so exciting to me it like stimulates the thing that needs to be activated it's like the act yeah it makes sense it's the activator I mean and that is like typically for me even though if it would not be my conscious preference been true so many times like you know the I think that's like you know and you get to relate ultimately like how much you would like that to be a strategy that you run that's that's what I'm always kind of trying to remind myself and speak about it like you know when you when you get the message you can hang up the phone these things don't have to be ingrained patterns that you can't transmute into other energy it's just you know there there are aspects and patterns that absolutely seem to be played out you know and it is a combination of the conditions that maybe we find ourselves in just kind of energetically not as a definer but that combination of your own consciousness being aware of that is the game it is what we play so yeah trans transmutation is a whole point like if you can't if you don't have control over these the way these things play out then there's really no point what's the point right this is kind of like I get in this this age old debate now with my wife because she essentially and I don't want to put words in her mouth or butcher her her philosophy on this but is very not anti-free will but feels like choice doesn't actually exist and that yeah I mean you can imagine how I feel about that which is yerong but like you know does she feel does that make her feel depressed or does she is she okay with it she seems to have like a very nuanced and subtle understanding of what that means for her and it doesn't completely leave her in a cynical state of mind but I do question how one can believe that and then still navigate and experience life with like a high degree of joy or like the capacity for that because it is to me like to me that sounds awful like it sounds like you know just not even awful but just like inaccurate based on my personal experience and just what I believe to be true but I it's something that I'm going to have her on so she can like you know share her point but it is it's like a very interesting way of looking and it's not pure determinism it's not like everything is already set out on a path and you will clearly play out that path it's more of like a multi infinite dimension viewpoint of everything having been created and that what we feel we're acting on is by choice that's actually just a pattern or energy that's expressing itself and you know and I was like okay our anomalous action was pre planned somewhere that kind of like somewhere and not even like from a creator or something like that but just like a series of natural or metaphysical phenomena that kind of it's like the way she described it is the dust settling like after the big boom like that's what we're actually witnessing rather than you know kind of a metaphysical stitching together of frames of reality which is kind of what I believe but I there's a kindness to that like I could see how like sometimes a little bit of that mindset can be really helpful in moments like lately where it's been really upsetting political situations or like war or like you're like why is this happening and it's kind of like there's some type of why is this person saying it's saying this like that why are they being so cruel or whatever like there can sometimes be a little bit of a well there was a trajectory of events that led up to this and this was kind of inevitable and we need to just wait for the next thing to happen because something else is going to happen to like equalize it or I don't know if that's but I have a hard time not feeling like I'm making choices like saying I mean it's like it's impossible for me to not feel like that and it's also very difficult for me to see how my life isn't a reflection of those choices that I've made internally like that is plainly clear to me I think there's like an element of like non-judgment in the way of looking at reality like that.

Yeah and I think that's that's why I brought it up because it sounds like that we were saying and I think yeah there is an element of that but to me that doesn't feel exactly like what's going on intuitively so we kind of argue about this at various times you know yeah it's nice to have that that completely different perspective because you know it keeps you honest it keeps you thinking about what you believe and you don't just kind of blindly repeat you know what you've been saying without questioning it so I like it from that aspect and I like to hear people who have different opinions and especially ones that we can't really prove right like we're not getting empirical evidence of either of those things outside of our own direct anecdotal experience which is a little bit different so yeah it's it's pretty it's pretty interesting stuff so I wanted to go like we you know we spent a lot of time here just like talking but I feel like I haven't asked you enough data for a lot of people who don't know about the technology questions just because like I don't want to undersell like you know I keep my Twitter lists tight and you have been since the beginning like a very good follow for a lot of reasons but you know for people who don't know like the stuff you share not only about kind of aspects of Vedic astrology I hadn't heard about like the horror stuff and like all the times and things but you also like tend to do these issues of like famous celebrities or figures in history and kind of break down their charts and like what leads you to like picking out someone's chart throughout history to be like I want to see what the fuck is going on there like what led you to like what what is your curiosity based on is it the person itself is it like using it as a tool to kind of understand components of energies but like what's what's involved there like when you like be like you know I'm going to look up with my own rose chart and see what's going on here yeah so well for me the biggest thing is people who I know about their life because what I really get obsessed over and this is probably going to be really boring for most people is birth time rectification also there's something called ionamshas in Vedic astrology and most Vedic astrologers use basically they start the zodiac at a certain degree based on an I don't know if this is just going to be like no no no no no okay cool so they use an ionamsha called Lahiri which is basically like it's only one like it's like micro differences of degrees in all of the various ionamshas but but when you get into the divisional charts it creates huge differences so so it's a big deal so so I'm like we'll get on like a mad spree of trying to either rectify somebody's birth time or which you have to use divisional charts to do that you have to use life events to do that so it's helpful to know about their lives or I want to sort of test out which ionamsha is better because I feel so strongly that the one I use is right and it changes the planetary phases that you're in the timing of the phases that you're in and so doing deep dives on these like people who know their life events can really help but also it's people who inspire me so like I found that I find Ted Kizinski to be a really interesting person yeah so I did like I want to rectify his time and that was really interesting yeah Jeff Buckley's I think really interesting person too and I had a really good time with his he has a really like mystical story going on and so so yeah it's very mathematical for me a lot of the time what led you to Ted Kizinski like what what interests you and I mean for people who don't know we're talking about the Unabomber you know famous kind of anti he wrote a whole manifesto on like kind of the dangers of society where it was heading what what what's your interest in Ted well honestly I was just interested enough in him to learn about his life to do the to use him as an example but I got I mean he's just so interesting because he's so coherent yeah he doesn't seem like a bad person I think he had was MK Ultra I think they did MK Ultra experiments on him and when he was in college so I'm like he's just a very interesting figure because you know if you read his manifesto he's like I understand that this is going to hurt people but I've done a cost benefit analysis and technology is actually worse and it's just like wow like he's a really unique individual so I don't know I just found him intriguing to learn about yeah that's cool so are you are you giving are you doing readings are you like offering like I never really kind of like you're not a self-promoter I think that's safe to say but I think one of the reasons I absolutely wanted to have you on is because I feel like there are voices out there that like they're really really good or put in true like energy and passion into what they do and they might not have the skill of being able to like put themselves like it's hard to ask people to market themselves when it comes to any of this type of work but I mean it's incredibly helpful and beneficial to a lot of people and I know as someone who offers readings myself like it helps us like it helps the reader understand and get better and figure out like what's actually going on in these processes so like are you how do people like if they want to connect with you like what's the best way to do that yeah so the best way is I guess through Twitter probably and I think yeah or my Instagram as well but really like readings are very much like research projects for me I mean to be honest I'm always learning so I never ever feel like anything's done so it's kind of like if someone wants a reading it's it's done based on donation because I just feel like I'm still learning the one type of reading that I feel really confident about and I can do really quickly and they can be really cheap is a rutologna readings which are very much about like style public image branding this is like about how to kind of it's the one that has to do with how the world sees you so anything to do with like questions about how to how to market oneself and that is the type of reading that I feel really comfortable with so I want one of those I want one of those like I'm totally on board yeah I'm happy to do it yeah because like that's something that I think a lot of people are just being forced to reconcile with like with this digital age of like how people are online and that's like how they are online is sometimes are often mixed with their businesses and their careers and it's just like not everyone is great at that like it is a difficult thing to understand how even people perceive you let alone like what to present in a way that communicates like what you're trying to communicate authentically so totally it's fun it's like a little evil but not too evil it's sort of like I don't know there's something about it that's fun like kind of superficial but really quite deep like being seeing how the world sees you is such a big deal because that's that's what they're going to know when you die that's the story they're going to tell about you this is like the role that people want to cast you in so like why not know why not go in knowing how people want to see you and work with that when you're trying to make money yeah or just in anything in life like I feel like when you have a better understanding of how you're being perceived it can certainly help you know how to act in certain situations to you know make it work a little bit better in ways that would be beneficial for everyone so yeah yeah and also there's there are blocks I mean there are clear blocks blocks that can be shown so if somebody's feeling blocked then there's remedies that you can do for that as well so it's really helpful I really I want to talk more about this we should definitely schedule maybe you can come on for the patreon or something and because I really like we're just scratching the surface here like I just I recognize and appreciate what you've been putting out like regularly and like yeah no it's cool and like I'm sure other people are noticing and paying attention to because it is Vedic astrology in particular is like you mentioned it is really complex right even the base level barrier into it requires somewhat of a perspective shift and then like you're talking about micro degree stuff and rectifications like you know you can see it extends into the real like ether here but it is very very cool and as one of the oldest forms of kind of like a divine art that exists I think holds tremendous power like there's a reason it's still around it there's some energy behind it that has benefited people you know so I you know you're pretty you're about as easiest easiest is of a point of contact for this type of information which is probably the best thing I can say about it it's presented in a way that is like yes you're dealing with sometimes I don't know what the words are and I don't know exactly what you're talking about but then like I'll either Google it or be able to understand it and then I'm like oh yeah that makes a lot of sense or it's just like a plain observation that relates to something going on that is a little more understandable for me at least from the Vedic perspective perspective so I appreciate it besides Twitter anywhere else you want people to connect with you is there anything else and no don't my patreon is not really functioning I would I would just Twitter and then Instagram is good too I think I'm just been boa astrology on Instagram cool well thank you so much for coming on I'm glad we got to do this let's let's set something up soon so if people have like you know questions or they want to learn because I just feel like you have a good way of explaining this to people too so cool awesome [Music]

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