Ep. 7 - Vic Berger

This is synchronicity. This is synchronicity. This is synchronicity. This is synchronicity. People are ordering food faster, faster. Wow. In a few hours, there's going to be an event take place. And you won't get food for six months to a year. Moving right back after this special message. Welcome, welcome guys. My guest today is Vic Burger. He's one of my favorite people. I know I say that at the beginning of every episode. It just happens to be true. I'm trying to talk to people who I consider my favorite people. I've never met Vic in person. I started following him on Twitter. You'll hear me mention like a year and a half ago, something like that.

And it's been made my Twitter. And by proxy my life just so much better. And I mean that. I don't mean that in a throw away. He's actually made my life better. In case you don't know, and you'll find out more about Vic during this entire episode. He is a video editor, composer, songwriter, generally awesome fellow who's been doing these hilarious and poignant and incredible video edits and vines of various people. Like Chubby Checker, Emerald Lagasse, Steven Seagal recently has moved into the political world, Donald Trump, Ben Carson, Jeb Bush, Mike Huckabee. And there's really no way to accurately explain what these videos are like.

So I'm just going to encourage you to check out his YouTube channel which is youtube.com/victheiv which is the fourth. So Vic the fourth. Subscribe there. Do yourselves a favor. Like I said, Vic has made my life so much better just by virtue of being connected with him on social media. If someone can do that, that's saying a lot. How has he made my life better? That's an important thing. The world is a fucked up place. We know that. We don't need to be reminded of that too often because we see it. Whether it's mass shootings, whether it's ISIS and terrorism, whether it's I'm dealing with a personal health insurance issue now which is a nightmare.

There's shit that's not so great around us. I've spoken about this before. One of the best antidotes we have to these not so great feelings that can make us feel trapped and afraid and scared is laughing and laughter in general. And when you find someone whether it's a friend or someone you know or a show or a comedian who can genuinely make you laugh from the primordial parts of your soul that's someone who you really should be grateful for. And Vic is definitely that guy. I've had the pleasure of seeing him gain in popularity and fame over the past year. He's been involved some ridiculously cool things like he got. You'll hear about it. You'll hear about these things.

Like this Jeb Bush thing and this tattoo he has had I'm sure he's got to work with people like Tim Heidecker Greg Turkington aka Neil Hamburger. If you don't know these names I mean FYI on this you don't always have to go to the to the podcast page for links. You can if you want and there's usually good stuff in there but today I very much encourage you to go to mindpodnetwork.com slash Noah and you will see the latest episode this episode. Click on that page because in there there will be links and embeds of a lot of Vic stuff because I tried to pick out just a few things that I think you guys would enjoy but I couldn't. There's a lot of them because they're so freaking good. So Vic also talks about something that I think is really important to give a little to a little focus here at the beginning of the podcast.

He talks about being bothered by you know a fair number of things especially in the news right. Just shit that's going on scary things kind of asily type of people like Ted Cruz and Donald Trump but what he does and I think this is this is such an awesome thing is he transmutes that anger into something creative that's also funny and that's like that's like a real magic trick right there. That's you know that's a skill to take something that's scaring people or is frightening and maybe it still is but at least be able to reframe it in a way that that makes people laugh. That's a real skill so I wanted to pay a special attention to that but on top of that and this is this is why I was really happy speaking with him he's just a really nice down-to-earth guy and I don't know I wasn't expecting anything different but you know you'll hear at the beginning he talks about for the past decade past ten years he's been working with mentally disabled people or had been working with mentally disabled people doing some form of music therapy. I don't think he was a licensed music therapist but he was working with people and you could see his approach to that and he does mention getting burned out but he you know he's a really special type of guy and I look forward to getting to know him better and just following his career so follow him on Twitter follow him on Vine subscribe to him on YouTube Instagram every place you can connect with Vic you will be happier for doing it so that's all I got rate the podcast if you like it you don't even have to do that just listen to Vic and you know check out his stuff that's that's what the point of this episode is so thanks for listening and here is Vic Burger Thank you also for doing this I really appreciate it sure thing I know I mean you're you're blowing up now I'm sure you're aware I am not surprised at all I mean it's truly like I you know I've been I think a long time ago Tim Heidegger tweeted something out and it was like I don't remember exactly what it was it might have been like a response video to an on cinema thing that's probably what it was yeah and I was like you know what this is like actually legitimately hilarious like as funny as anything else as I've seen and then since then it's just been a real pleasure following you and seeing what you've done thanks man thanks yeah you're you're one of the first people to follow me I remember I I was stuck at like like 15 like bot followers and then you're the one of the people that came on you know well it was I mean it was you know I I try to Twitter to me is one of my favorite things just because I I find it to be such an interesting thing in like the development of like human consciousness that like people can not have to verbalize words to each other it's not even like typing which is another filter they you know they just do these quick little thoughts that they have and like if it's unfiltered you can just see completely how insane a person can be or you can see like this person really is awesome so I love it and I yeah it is best I can okay so we'll start first question right off the how did you start I know you went to Berkeley which is my alma mater as well and songwriting was your major it was I originally went there you know I took the tour in high school yeah me too and I was like oh this is amazing I mean I was really into songwriting and especially recording yeah and they take me around and show me the studios and I'm like yeah this is what I want to do and then I got there and they changed the rules that you had to like go through this application process and and and and interviews and everything and I was just you know I would get nervous in the interviews and everything and I mean I knew it's what I really wanted to do but I just could not get past those like initial interviews and they would the guy would be like he would like I remember bringing in a song that I was really proud of and he stopped it with like 10 seconds into the song and he's like he's like all right what should happen here what you know what's wrong with this no you I don't know man like what do you mean what do you remember who it was do you remember what did oh god what was his name I'm sure I could think of it like maybe Jack so jazz co oh yeah yeah for sure I could have been him I there's there's a number of them that just like oh I just like held grudges all throughout and and then by the you know by my my what would that be fourth or fifth semester of trying to get in I was like I got to get out of here it's expensive you know I mean so so I just finished off with a songwriting degree which doesn't doesn't really you know honestly I will say this I I have a funny story of actually getting into the music synthesis department I had I had terrible grades I'm talking like really bad grades I left school for a little bit and I basically went in with like my portfolio and told them like listen I took too much acid my first like three semesters so this is what happened this is why I left school this is why my grades are shitty here's my portfolio I think I should be in and I think they were just so like blown away by my candidness that they let me in which like it was nuts but I will say this about the the songwriting versus music synthesis my degree is is fucking useless at least when you say you have a songwriting degree people know what that means when I say I have a degree in music synthesis that literally means nothing like in that I know I know how to do this I know it did I'm telling you not even like I went to the school and I'm not I'm still totally not sure I always I always thought it meant like you make the sounds that the keyboards play yeah I mean there's like one class on that otherwise I mean it's basically I like you thought the same thing when I did the high school thing too and I was just so blown away with like the facilities and their approach relative to like you know like a Juilliard or some other classical school the conservatory and yeah once you're there also I mean when you go there is like a young person like it's it's potentially the wrong time to be placing people in those facilities you know I always think about that yeah it's not 17 17 years old I mean I I didn't totally know what I wanted to do I loved music exactly you know I wasn't ready to you know have my parents and me you know take all these loans out yeah I for this thing that might not even pay off I totally get it so yeah okay talk about getting your songwriting degree from Berkeley and then where how how where along the way did this turn into making videos and vines of people like Chubby Checker and Donald Trump well there's a long you know yeah decade or so of well maybe even more of of just working a day job I worked after college I worked a minimum waste job at a beer distributor in Pennsylvania and then I moved on from there to work with people with disabilities at a developmental center and you know all along I was you know writing songs and trying to figure out what what I really wanted to do with my life I mean I enjoyed working with the people with disabilities yeah but that kind of wears on you after a while it's it's kind of it's pretty difficult in some some respect yeah I'm sure but I actually through that though I was able to get a title to do music with the people with disabilities there so I was doing essentially what is music therapy very cool but I'm not a licensed music therapist so I can't really call myself that but I was doing got you basically what they do and that was that was really exciting I would you know record songs with them right even write some songs with them and a lot of it was more recreational like sing along kind of thing you know get the acoustic out and play a bunch of Beatles songs and that was a lot of fun but the progress was just so slow because they're very low level clients right right so so the it would be almost a lot of the days were kind of I felt like I was doing the same thing over and over again and the progress was so slow but I was there almost about 10 years oh wow I recently quit because because I got this new job but you know during that time I was still trying to figure out what to do and then maybe about two years ago I was I was starting to get into the video editing just to try it out and just because you know I'd write a song and record a song and then I'd want to put it up online somewhere and a lot of people don't tend to want to listen to stuff that doesn't have video attached to it yeah and it is hard it is so hard to get people to listen to your music it's it's we don't wear I know so it's it's tough so I started experimenting with my buddy Billy I was playing music with him ability again and he had me do some music music videos for him and stuff like that so that's where I kind of got into it and I just would he's like I don't I'm not like trained in it or anything so I'm just like learning on on the spot you know what do you use to edit your videos well I started with Sony Vegas because that's what I had I had a PC but now I switched over to to Mac you know like most people with them but I'm still using final cut sure sure I don't know I doubt it's used mainly in the in the industry you know it's probably premiere for me I you know it's funny I I have video editor friends and a lot of them use final cut it's I think the you know it's I think the two of them compared the learning curve for final cut is a little more steep I did I was forced to do like a campaign video like a month no six months ago and I got my crash course in premiere which I thought was pretty easy I mean truthfully that I just with no video editing editing experience at all and I'd use several you know digital audio workstations obviously for school and stuff but I thought premiere was pretty easy yeah I've opened it up a couple times yeah I'm like okay I don't know where to use whatever you're comfortable with is always yeah and I just also like when I open these things up like I'm in the middle of or I'm just wanting to get started on a certain project I don't want to spend spend the time to learn absolutely and I know I know the final cut pretty well you know so I just but yeah eventually I'll switch I'll switch over yeah no I mean use like I said use whatever your I switch back from music stuff from like Ableton logic and then at school we're using Pro Tools but it's it whatever you whatever it does not inhibit the creative process it doesn't have what could be you know finger paint it doesn't matter whatever it is use that right okay yeah all the matters is that the final product you know yeah exactly speaking of final products this is a good segue I'm amazing at this here we go how do you find videos to make you know how do you find people to make videos of and then tie in question how soon after you saw Chubby checker did you realize you needed to make many many videos of him and flood the internet with his insanity slash awesomeness well I'm always like I've always had an eye to see the the bizarre I guess you know or always found it fascinating yeah and and and also I think I found a lot of moments in you know a television or movies or videos or whatever that I see that that I like find funny but like I can't really you know I mean they say hey dad you know do you see this you know the funny and like no one will get it yeah so I think I think a lot of what I do comes from that where I'm like I see this like fucked up moment and and want to focus in on that and highlight that so that's kind of what I do and I just use the digital zoom into yeah present it put it in your face you know it's amazing I mean as a fan I always used to love and I would torture my friends and family with watching public access television just because like I was like how do you not realize these are people doing this in real life like do you see what's going on here you know like I once once made a friend in college watch there was this public access show it was called squirrels and jazz and it was literally someone following squirrels around on the Commons just just filming with jazz music behind I'm like someone did this for like five hours edited this together like this is this to me is insane yeah no it was it was truly like incredible so I you see what's the process though from when you see someone like I what's the first thing you saw of Chubby checker that made you do it too well the first thing I saw of Chubby checker was Chubby checker in person actually I I if you remember borders books yeah they're they're the funk now but there's one in town and probably in 2002 or 2003 I think I was home from Greg from college and I just just went to borders to check out the CDs and the in the books or whatever just to just you know look around and it was like a Tuesday night I think and Chubby checker was there signing autographs but he but you had to buy his reggae twist CD and even then I was just like what this is really weird and he's just you know he just he was just chubby checker and it just bizarre dude and I saw him like up close and he just said he just looks weird yeah yeah yeah this is something something's off about yeah but you know and that always sunk in my mind and I would always tell people that when I were if that would if the twist would ever come on yeah I saw him at borders and it was really weird yeah yeah so then so then yeah like that stuck in my mind and then probably I don't know maybe a year and a half ago I just came across some video of him like on a local news show I think is what it was and and he just he like everybody has their you know their image of what Chubby checker of course you know what I mean like he's like his sweet old man or something and but but when you when you dig a little deeper than the twist and you know whatever other songs you said there's a there's a darkness oh my god that you know that's that's scary and but funny and I mean I think he's mostly harmless I think yeah you would hopefully hopefully but he's definitely you know pushing the pushing boundaries with the you know how close he gets with these these women oh god oh I mean I I will say I saw you know I show it to my wife who I know you always tweet about how you're forcing your wife to watch these chubby checker videos I also force my wife to watch your chubby checker videos and she you know she loves them but she gasps every time she watches one of the vines of him like molesting I mean for lack of better work right I mean it's just like assaulting women on stage like like everybody's watching you know a thousand people watching him like slap women well that is you know that's why I love what you do so much because the context of being at a chubby checker concert most people are caught up in like oh chubby checker here he is it's completely missed and this this is gonna time with the political stuff I want to get into but you know the context of it is there it's like almost goes unmissed but for anyone who's looking at this without that you know bias of what's actually the moment of happening you can see these insane things going on right and I think that that's like an important thing to focus on my part of what I'm doing with this show it's like a halfway spiritual show halfway just me talking about stuff and with people I think are cool but one of the things I really am focusing on is is multiple perspectives on things because I think ultimately in life the more perspectives you're able to cultivate on any situation person relationship the better off you are then you're not looking at it from a limited narrow focus so I mean one of the things I don't know if you look at your videos when you're making them like this but they really help with is they highlight these things that might just be completely lost say during you know Jeb Bush's announcement announcement speech or Chris Christie's or something like that so that's the segue into the political stuff how did you decide I know I don't know if I'm correct on this but I followed your Trump for prez Instagram oh yeah which explain to people what that what that is and what that that started with with Trump on Twitter always you know for a while he would just like pretty much retweet any compliment he got before he started running for president right and and people would be like really hope you're running for president I just thought it was always like people like you know trolling on messing around messing around with them and just like but you know like that we want you to be president you know you're great you're you're a genius whatever you know and then so then I started just I mean I think I think probably other people have done it too but like I would just put up this fucked up picture of Trump that I you know Photoshop or whatever stick it like in along with the compliment you know and then and then a number of times he would just blindly retweet it yeah and that was a the greatest feeling to know that grump is not knowing what he's doing and retweeting this horrible you know image of him and then and then I just ended up making it because I had so many these pictures and I was doing it so often that is made this you know account for it which then he shut it down oh I know I know I'm well aware he shut it down I'm not is the Twitter account are you still running that or is that's why there's there's Twitter and Instagram now it's but it's Trump for president with the Z you know president he was Trump for president Trump for you know the number four yeah yeah president yeah yeah yeah I it's I it's truly I mean that was the beginning I mean was that the first political I mean he wasn't political then right he was just a goofess right he's just he always had he had views on everything yeah views on reality shows and you know what a nonsense going on but yeah that's yeah that's around the time you started getting political what so what then segue how did it then fit in with all these short versions and explain to people what these short but you were doing short versions of things like presidential debates announcements how did how did that get started it kind of evolved because they're all I knew they were gonna be tons and tons of these Republicans announcing to run for president so I I just took I think it might have been Oh Santorum or how could be one of the first guys and and I just I just took their announcement speech and and just you know had a couple it was maybe they're only like a minute long or something I was just you know a couple jokes throughout where I where I would just switch their words or take their right take their phrases out of contact right and just make something you know goofy and weird out of it but then eventually it turned into more I think because it was evolving as it was going along and then by by the time I got to I think it was Harry it was kind of more of a of a full event you know what I mean what would be like a maybe three minute version of where I would say you know this is I took all the highlights of yeah of the speech and just condensed it down to three minutes you know right but of course the highlights are the lights yeah you know so just the worst moments in the most awkward sweaty moments for Rick Perry yeah I mean and every you did one for almost all of the not all there's so I was like I wanted to do them all and and I wanted to do all the Democrats too but I just there was just so much going on and they're they're really time-consuming I mean I spent so long almost I can only imagine I mean yeah you also are probably I mean how many handful of people handfuls of people are are watching every single announcement speech from the Republican suit just you mean you had to watch them to edit them down exactly I mean I forgot who it was it was it was just so long and it might have been Rick Perry's yeah yeah or someone and it was just so long and I just remember just like wanted to give up halfway through just like digging through to find stuff you know and just I can only imagine yeah you're doing the Lord's work Vic yeah I know you know that but okay so this is something also I noticed I got I didn't know who this guy was until I saw your tweets about him Stephen Crowder what the fuck is going on explain to the listeners to me what is going on there who is Stephen Crowder and yeah just so he is this this this kid basically I mean he started you know doing all this this conservative comedy when it in his early 20s but apparently he was like a voice actor he did a voice on Arthur the cartoon I saw that so he's just like this kid that thinks he knows everything about everybody and and he he is basically like a like Sean Hannity for the youth yeah I would say but like but he's even more open about his racism right yeah and his sexism and and he he just like hates women and gay rights and everything and but he and he and he thinly veils all this stuff but he makes in the ways yeah everyone can see through it so so I mean I only found out about him a couple couple weeks ago somebody somebody for some reason tagged my name into a response to him and then I just so I just looked at this guy and I watched his videos and he has like this video podcast where he interviews headfrues and Huckabee all these all these dopes yeah so yeah and so so that started and then I just like did like a couple minutes of research on him and and I was gonna move on with my day but then I found this video of him wrapping at the conservative Political Action Committee conference or whatever it was whatever it's called yeah and he's wrapping and he basically uses the N word but he uses like something that sounds like the N word and the and the whole rap song stops and it's just yeah very offensive and so I I just added I did a short version of that I you know and I highlighted all these like these white people like dancing and you know moving to his rap song his racist rap song and and then I put that online and you know I said check out what Santorm's favorite comedian or something yeah yeah yeah that in and then and so that kind of blew up a little bit so he's getting all these notifications and everything about you know well you know because of that so I mean he got pissed about that but then he didn't really he hasn't responded any time I like send them something with the video attached he doesn't respond and he hasn't blocked me yet which is pretty great yeah I don't know I guess he's for free speech so yeah there you go at least he's consistent well so yeah but he's just he's just horrible and actually he he like was up in running for the daily show years ago oh my god yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I I like you I mean I didn't I probably found out about not far after you did I mean I looked into it and I went through his timeline on Twitter reddish Wikipedia and was also just amazed at just and his YouTube channel is pot I mean it's just it's pretty nuts the thing is and and and this is like this and you put something up and you wrote this to him on Twitter and I thought it was poignant and because then I think you said that he's a hateful a hate-based comedian and I think that's and I think that's really besides being funny is is super on point and it also highlights the difference like we know now I mean look at the Republican party look at all the fucked up shit going around the world there's the world is in not everything is great ever okay let's just say for lack of better words you know comedy happens to be one of the best antidotes for all of this stuff like truthfully it can really take people out I mean you can see people who are dealing with a media tragedy like a death in the family I remember the when my my dad's mom died you know we he was he was up visiting me before the funeral and we were watching like we marathoned arrested development and like it took his mind off and I could see how it genuinely took him out of a space of grief and like kind of bewilderment into like so I really think comedy just has an amazing ability to resonate with people and actually do the change but when you see something like Stephen Crowder and there's a take your pick of any of these comedians or political or anyone who are using it to kind of espue these hateful divisive things like it it blows my mind and I say that because I go through your videos and you know they're not there's they're not mean you're you're you're highlighting odd things that actually happen there may be an emphasis in a certain point but like it's not coming from a place of trying to tear someone down it's just like this is crazy look at this so can you just talk about like I know you I imagine you're probably not consciously thinking of this when you're making the videos but can you talk about just like your process you know and how you view it you know different from someone like a Crowder yeah I I'm it's not yeah it's not always totally conscious I think I think it is kind of an extension of my personality in a way where I try I I just don't want to be a mean guy yeah but there are things that really piss me off in the world and instead of coming at it you know with hate I think I just kind of I highlight what like you said like what's going on and frame it in a way where where the humor you know outweighs the the point that I'm trying to make but there is the point there you know I mean that I am trying to make an offer a lot for a number of these things and I would say that like like people like Crowder that they have this like huge agenda where they're trying to push but then they're also trying to say they're comedians right and like they're they're they're agenda severely outweighs like any kind of humor that they might be having so that it turns people off it's it's not funny you know it's it's it's just comes across as hateful you know and well that's what I wonder to us it does right but I mean yeah how many Twitter followers how many subscribers how many people coming to his defense to say thanksgiving thing he did you know they have Americans like that's that's horrible but I mean I think that might that might say something about the people that he's pulling into I guess you know that those people they they thrive on that they don't you know what I mean so I think they I I would think they they're fine with that I guess you know I don't know I it's it's hard to it's hard to say what what's going on with those guys it is I mean I I try to figure it out I mean I on some level I mean I don't like to psychoanalyse people I don't know yeah you see someone who's so clearly just I don't I don't know what the reward is from his side outside of popularity or an ego boost which is fine I get that a lot of people are it's ego that it's not about what they're creating it's not about the value they're providing but it's about the attention that they're getting which I I can only assume is what's going on but still like to take a step back and be like well am I really am I hurting people is this mean am I gonna you know make someone do something horrible because this stuff is is ramping them up knowing all of that right and say you said you haven't your new job are you doing this full-time now I am cool I I'm working for for Super Deluxe who they were around maybe like nine years ago and there it's gonna be like a comedy website with you know a lot of a lot of cool people that I am fans of you know are working there now hasn't premiered yet so I'm not I'm actually I probably shouldn't be talking about it you know but but it's coming out like very soon and I'm making these you know a lot of a lot of political stuff and a lot of non-political stuff some Jim Baker videos I'll be making well don't worry we're gonna get into save the best for last yeah cool that's awesome so okay before the Jim Baker stuff yes well it's actually we can talk about it because one of your I found you very early on through Tim Heidecker who I'm a huge fan of Tim and Eric and Tim I we had the privilege of seeing him do stand up here in DC at the Benson Ball and oh my god he was incredible it just I know you you were lucky enough I think he brought you on stage at one point are for yeah shows can you talk about him being kind of a champion of yours and how that started and also we'll get in I want to get into the the Jeb for praise in his role in that the tattoo so yeah any the Tim Heidecker I'm super interested in that sure well about maybe two and a half years ago when I was still you know strictly doing music I you know I was a fan of Tim and Greg Turkington yeah on cinema which is which is a great show I love it so much they I they were they had all these episodes where it was involving Tim and his and his new girlfriend Ayaka yeah so I so when the you know they would release an episode on say like a Wednesday afternoon or something I would you know watch it and then come up with a like a fan's response to it but I would do it through song yeah and so I would you know that night I would come home from work and write this song and record it and everything and then make a little video for it that went along with it and send that to him and he got a kick out of those Tim got a kick out of those so I did I don't know maybe maybe six or seven or those or so yeah and then after a while he he he contacted me and asked me if I wanted to edit something for the on cinema Oscar special yeah which which was like incredible yeah and especially since I never really edited anything real before you know I mean I was first gig great I learned on the job yeah so so I said yes and then ran out and got a Mac book and learn the software real quick sick and and they sent me all this this footage and it was green screen which I never really is before and like you know Joe Estes and yeah yeah Trey I were in it and it was it was Tim winning an Oscar for his his role in his autobiography biopic Tim's story it was called so so so yeah so I added this thing and luckily you know they liked it and everything and it worked out and they they played on the on the special so then that's kind of where it all started with with them with with Tim and he you know since he was following me on Twitter he kind of watched me I guess it evolved in a way you know the videos I was making and and then he did become a champion of mine like you know promote help promoting certain things that I that I did and yeah and and also he would you know give me advice so like you know what to do a certain certain spots a certain videos are longer you know or too long or or whatever you know yeah I know I'm sure the most valuable input you can get I mean yeah yeah I mean yeah yeah and he's I mean really wouldn't be you know where I am you know like you know in this career without his help you know this this fast because I've really only been doing video editing for two years you know yeah so so he's yeah he's been really helpful and and I he's brought me on to edit some Tim and Eric promos you know so yeah it's really incredible to be working with you know people that I'm such huge fans of and I imagine Greg too because you directed the Neil hamburger video yeah music yeah yeah yeah he's he's incredible that was my second you know big gig after after the Tim the Tim video he just he wanted something for his his new album that was coming out it was it was a disco song about garbage bags so so he he likes them the because I do some of these like cheap animation kind of things I don't know how to animate at all but I just basically Photoshop pictures of people's faces and just bounce them around yeah so I just it was like he wanted something I guess sort along those lines so that's I mean that took forever to do that that video yeah it's good it's like it was also like a like a four-minute song four and a half minute song so I had to like come up with you know animations for every Wow scene so that that took forever I can only imagine like what actual hand-drawn animation how long that is not yeah yeah yeah so yeah okay that's that's cool man I I because I love both those guys too I'm a big on cinema fan decker I'm a decker head you know yeah it's just it's just to me that's also one of the reasons I just love what you're doing I don't know that it's my wife called a bazaar - I just say it's kind of like absurd but to me it's just amazing I don't know what exactly it's honing in on that clicks for me but it does so I want to talk about one of your viral viral videos on behind Jepra Prez Jepra Prez tattoo tie-in Macbook Pro baby so can you explain how you got recently featured on CNN because of something you did with Deb Bush well so when was that man I don't even know when that was it July I think it was yeah I just you know I was doing all these dumb vines of Jeb that are where he's just here well I'll start from following his YouTube channel where he has this the series of videos called Jeb unfiltered and it's him basically you know his crew making him do things that normal people do for example like where like putting on a hoodie that's that's the entire video but how does he put on a hoodie though that puts it on he doesn't unzip it he just slightly slips it over his head and struggles with it rather than unzip it and put it on you know arm by arm but he puts it over his head and it's ridiculous and there's a video of him using uber where he's like man you know everybody does it's commonplace no big deal and everybody uses uber he doesn't use uber what do you there's no reason for him to use uber so then so then there is one where he I love that there's ones that they have them they ask him a question and it'll be like windows are Mac and then he has to answer and and then so then there's like a series of these questions but you don't really hear you don't hear him ask they don't show like them asking the question so he's basically like listing off products and and things that he likes to show that he's a he's a regular guy so so I just took the one well I took I've used all the ones where he list stuff I've made stuff out of yeah the most popular one was obviously the techno job-love technology vine where where he he's there they're asking like if he likes Android or iPhone so he what is it iPhone and he says MacBook Pro baby and then and then Apple watch and that's it and that's it and it's just loot and then there's like you know a quick shot of his eyes blinking right right so so that's the entire vine so it was like Friday night on a it was like midnight on a Friday night and I was like falling asleep and I just for whatever reason I just put up if if this Jeb loves technology vine hits a million views or million loops I will get a Jeb for Prez tattoo on my neck right which like there's no it's a stupidest thing ever I mean I didn't even I seriously thought five seconds about it you know as I'm typing I didn't think anything of it right got up the next day and it was you know it was kind of taken off and you know and then in I don't know five days four days it ended up hitting a million yeah but that's mainly because Jeb's people they they saw this this vine this there's tweet cuz I tag Jeb in it and Jeb's people put out a tweet that said I want to make Vic get this neck tattoo you know give us a number of views do what you can to help I want to make them get this right right right it's like don't do what are you doing I want you to it's like I guess they think the kids are like this is what the kids are doing they're getting these neck tattoos you guys you know for for president that's what the kids do now but they did they're they're into these tattoos you know so so let's get it let's make this poor guy who we don't know at all let's uh he could be insane yeah we don't just tattoo it up but let's get it let's get this on his neck so that's a worst thing to do so but they did it and then as it's going along like Jeb's like his social media managers and all these these communication managers are contacting me and and there's one there's one Aaron Gates was her name she she's like yeah she come down to Miami Miami we're known for these kind of thing we're known for these tattoos but come on down to Miami you know and and she's like yeah you get make sure you you know pics or didn't happen yeah yeah yeah what are you doing so so that they're they're pushing me to get this thing so I hit a million and then so I said I will get the tattoo yeah and then I kind of disappeared for a week because I was on vacation yeah and so then and and then I came came back I went up the main and came back and a buddy of mine Scott Tice and my my friend Thaddeus Pecula we went to this this tattoo parlor up the street and got a tattoo but I mean it was we filmed it and everything got all these pictures of everybody right it was you know obviously well obviously to me and people that knew me it was gonna be fake right but but nobody in the world really knew this right exactly so so so we went there and and this guy named Elvis you know he drew it with Sharpie but he did go in for a while you know to draw some blood yeah yeah and and you know to make it look and it can everything yeah got it you got it you know yeah so so then the next day I send these pictures to Jeb's people and I said I got the tattoo I got and it's you just explain how it's just this massive thing on my neck that says Jeb for you know the number four press with a Z so it's like even if even if Jeb wins the presidency it's gonna be like pointless to have because it's like just promoting him to become president it's just a it's just the most pointless Ted because it's a relevant in a couple months so it's just this massive thing and actually I mean afterwards we did go out to eat and I did I did go out to Sharpie people were giving me looks and I saw a couple of people laugh but I mean I think they really thought it was real of course why would they doubt me you know so yeah and so that was I mean I was kind of a little embarrassed and at one point I did go to try and wash it off but it didn't really come off man it's I was wondering that because I saw it and was like you know this looks like Sharpie it's probably not like a temporary tattoo which appeal off or something I'm like I wonder how long he had to have that it was there it was there like like two and a half three days like you know it started to fade after a while oh my god well you know and also explain that at a certain point I think I read in the CNN thing that Tim played your dad and said that you were mentally to start explain that explain what happened so yeah I was kind of you know like consulting with Tim and Greg during throughout that right because I mean Tim's done stuff like this before where he was like the editor of Rolling Stone yeah yeah I mean he's I'm sure he's done a lot of these things yeah so he's he's the pro you know to talk to and I he said you know he should really to take this to another level you know have have somebody step in and and and to bring more reality to it you know and so he he ended up I got my I called my dad and got got his password because he signed up for Twitter yeah you know and and I don't he never he didn't know what it was but I suppose so I got his password and then to make it look authentic and then that day the day after I got the tattoo he Tim went in and contacted all the people that were all these like reporters because all these stores were written about me yeah and so you contact those reporters all the people from Jeb's campaign saying you know how you know I have undiagnosed mental disorders I've always had these things you know he thought his life was you know getting getting back on track but this kind of derailed it you know Vic lost his job at the Turkey Hill mini-mart you know you know Jeb you know what have you done it's amazing yeah so that so after that nobody from the Jeb campaign right the Jeb crew contact me again they've been silent you know right and rightly so that's I mean this was that they should have done that from the start absolute I mean they're enabling this you know I'm encouraging this guy this crazy guy to get this tattoo okay you just you opened yourself up for the perfect segue with crazy guy Jim Baker Jim Baker Jim Baker I love him I love him he's crazy and scary and horrible but I I love his show so much oh my god I mean at your latest video the buckets video for people I haven't seen it I'm gonna put a link on the the page for this but I'll be linking to so many things on this page but that one in particular I I've showed it to my entire family to all of my friends you know some with totally getting it I will say my mom loved it she thought it was the funniest thing and and you know one of the things just explain explain Jim Baker in a nutshell I did a little research I didn't know that he was like an infagile from back in the day yeah explain explain who he is because he looks so different now to it he does yeah he's kind of hiding his identity I guess but in this I guess 60s and 70s he's one of the earliest televangelist working with Pat Robertson and he I guess he had a puppet show to start off but then eventually you know his his empires kept growing and growing and he had this his own you know television studio I think even at one point him and his wife Tammy Fay Baker had like an amusement park I believe it was like huge you know huge thing going on millions and millions of dollars they had this massive home and then I don't know exactly all the details of it but I know that there was some weird affair going on with him and his secretary and and also then it came out that he is I guess in Besling all this money yes you know so eventually I guess the FBI or somebody you know the government found out about this and and prosecute him and he he spent I think five years in jail yeah in the I guess would be late 80s something like that and and Tammy Fay I think moved on after that you know and then he got out and then I guess a couple years ago he made his way back to TV oh yes he did here he is again he's got his his new wife Lori who is wow yeah she's I've been medicated and you're sure she's not being held captive because like what I know I know it really could mean it's crazy but who knows who knows who knows what's going on and he's got this whole cast of characters oh yeah of these these guys that you know claim to be prophets and claim to be you know these genius whatever they are that they know what's gonna happen with the world and but all the whole show is you know it's based around Christianity I guess and and and God but but they're the whole show they're pushing food yeah oh but how are they pushing the food but they're they're selling the you know for when the apocalypse happens and and the world's coming to an end he wants you to have these buckets of dried food of like anything you can imagine pizza of soup of you know mashed potato anything anything you think if he's got you know 22 gallon buckets dehydrated in a in a 22 gallon bucket and and it's absurd it sounds like we're making it up but like oh well it's really happening and I made a lot of money I mean there are thousands of dollars for these $2,500 for 28 buckets and that includes six bonus buckets I mean it needs 28 buckets of anything for anything anything in life you don't need 28 buckets of their big buckets yeah so yeah they're fascinating and then and then they do these these I guess these yearly events where they you know the end time conference or whatever and then so every day of the week then they broadcast it every day by the way yo is that really it's a daily show that's a daily thing and actually they shoot them all in one day okay so it's like six hours of shooting but usually by the fifth hour Jim is like real raw yeah oh yeah filming for him sorry so that's when he gets he gets even weirder with like he like they got this like 22 gallons of rice and then they pour a 22 gallons of this cheesy broccoli soup into the rice and they're in these massive tubs you could fit you could fit a couple bodies in there and he's like pouring all these like everything together it's just a mess just it's just and it's unbelievable and you have to see it to believe it it is and so what you did is you edited some of these things together I mean truthfully I imagine it's of all the things this got to be one of the easier ones to find like gold with this yeah I mean because yeah and it was so yeah it was it was painless for me and like a lot of a lot of times I'm like I'm like stressed out because I'm trying to figure out what direction to go but this was like painless and the most fun editing I've ever done because there's so much material there you know what I mean so it's almost like you have to figure out what to leave out because like there's so much gold you know it's it's to me I mean it's there's nothing and and one of the other things you can explain a little bit about this to the listeners is you do and I've noticed it's something from the very beginning is your your video editing is all is great obviously but your sound design and sound editing is so good like it really has a way of fitting in with the absurdity of what's going on like I noticed that especially with the the buckets video music it's awesome like totally awesome so what goes into that do you just do typical like film scoring thing like watch it and play along to it or do you make something and overlay it or is it well the the actually the music though is a lot of it is a stock music that I've like manipulated nice nice and and it's like this old like 70s like synth stock music that I have that I you know I mess with and edit and you know change the the the pitch of it and the tempo and everything but a lot of the like the like the the sounds like are me you know kind of like the sound effects are like me like tapping whatever yeah yeah just just to emphasize and then I changed the pitch of I got all like do a clap or something but I'll change the pitch of it to intensify it yeah yeah or slam a table like I'm only slams a table that's like that's like four or five of me slamming my desk you can hear like rattling and stuff so yeah so I I and I mean that's where I come from then you know this music and sound editing and everything for years so so that's where I really like to pay special focus to and so there's no like you know when I'm using multiple clips from different areas of the of the video different times of the video I want to make them as seamless as possible right right I really pay special attention to to the sound I try and make it where it's like a lot of my videos I think sometimes you can tell that the video a lot of times you can probably tell that the videos like manipulated but I think if you a lot of them if you close your eyes and just listen to it oh yeah you know what I mean you can it would it would almost pass as something that's legitimate that that actually happened you know there's I mean there's one of the you do a lot of these things but I remember there's a Marco Rubio one where you do a little like porcupay thing where it's just looped back and forth but it's not I mean I really haven't gone to the same school I really appreciate like those little things and for something like the content is so silly but you also there's like a high high degree of skill with this stuff - I mean it's it's pretty cool man so okay I have to end this I wonder I was wondering if you wanted to do a little rapid fire free association with some names and you can tell yeah all right so I got eight of them and you can take your time you don't have to do it right away Ted Cruz oh man just like like what comes to mind yeah yeah oh his his voice is so brash and horrible I think he he doesn't when somebody asked him a question like that's you know they want a serious answer to he he's able to warp it and just keep talking and talking until he's not talking about what the question was and he's very skillful at that and and I hate him amazing grace amazing grace I'll link to that yeah yeah that's that's unbelievable he's he's my I shouldn't say hate you not cuz I yeah no I get it I get it I know what I mean I do I do know I do know I dislike him as much as you can dislike somebody okay quickly chubby checker should I be checker oh man he's he's he's my favorite guy he's uh he's creepy but he's great and he should be put in the rock and roll Hall of Fame like he asked yes he said Donald Trump Trump is Trump is up there with Cruz but he's he's also he's entertaining but he's also frightening and I find him hilarious but but the more the longer he stays in the race I the the less funny I find him yeah it's getting weird it's definitely getting it's passing weird and getting into like I hope this guy's in a Nazi let's that's that's where we're going Steven Seagal Steven Seagal oh man he's he's uh he's an interesting character he I I don't really like him as much as the other guys because he's so serious and and I I don't know if I'll I like his dancing when he's oh my god I think I think that's hilarious about him but like when he's talking though I don't really I don't know I thought I thought he's gonna be funnier than he was but he's he's too serious and frightening I think he's very serious all right Guy Fieri Guy Fieri is is great I think everybody can agree that he's he's amazing yeah well maybe not no everyone I think it's unanimous I think everybody gets that yeah he's he's this character and he kind of has to stay is to keep living up to this like dumpy guy that is probably smarter than that because he's got this huge empire yeah yeah it's absolute speaking of huge empires what about Emerald Lagasi oh my god he's he's I I do not like him I did a video that's one of my favorite things of him him being interviewed for I think it was the New York Times yes yes he's you know of course he throws out his band a couple times yeah but in town we have a casino that went in a couple years ago that I you know I was pretty against you know to come in but it came in anyway even though I yeah you know but he has I think it's a three or four restaurants in the casino and it's just I just it's just awful I don't there's one there's a restaurant called burgers and more or BAM you know BAM oh this terrible and he and he and he he's I have a family member that works there and he's always hitting on the on the girl comes in and he's I don't find it surprising I mean he also if anyone hasn't seen it watch on YouTube his pilot his show he had a TV show oh yeah oh my god yes my god it's bad so what's that two more I got for you Jeb Bush Jeb Bush you know he is a he's goofy unintentionally funny I would say I think he's I I would say he see I mean I don't know much about like when he was governor of Florida right but I would think he would mostly be harmless but then some of these things but he's still a Bush you know so I think I think there's all those things going in there like it how he's how he he wanted the Syrian refugees to prove that they're Christians before they come to him right right frightening right and the opposite of what America's all about so so I think the longer he stays into the less funny I have to find him yeah he's definitely he's I don't you know he's like he's obviously like a milk toast kind of guy you can tell he's like you know and he's struggling with that and his family is two of them have been presidents it's got to be but he's also like you can tell there's he's pretty much I get the sense he'd be willing to do whatever he needed to do to be president and that's scary thing to yeah he exactly he has his dad and his brother that were presidents yeah you know this crazy career and you want to join him yeah who knows what's gonna happen yeah we'll see him play out that myth in some way so last one Ben Carson oh man Ben Ben Ben that's he he's amazing but I don't like where did he come from how did he get to where he is I mean I don't know I mean just even just coming from you know from the surgical background yeah how did he get in this and how did anybody say look at this guy I want to I want this guy running the war I want the running the country I mean I don't know if I could honestly say that it's and it's it's amazing to me really it is also amazing to me all right that's that's all I have with the free associate I mean I think I think we're at the end here dude this has been a ton of fun for me I'm one of my favorite guests to have on here also is there anything you want to actively promote now I'm gonna have links all over this page to all of your stuff but I know you're on Twitter why don't you tell people your Twitter handle yeah I'm I'm on Twitter it's Vic Burger IV on the on the fourth you know so it's Vic VIC Burger B-E-R-G-E-R and then IV what else to go there's I guess you could follow Trump for president you know on Instagram and Twitter and my YouTube channel is you know I don't even know what the address is for that but if you just type in Vic Burger yes YouTube and you can find it there and also you can see stuff that I'm doing for super deluxe on a channel called hot tolerance cool and I'll say this as someone I my day job so to speak is I do digital consulting you know for web stuff YouTube I definitely subscribe to VIC's YouTube page it's one of the best ways to actually reach people and stay engaged with them and as video content proliferates and as VIC is a video editor if you want to stay connected there and also I'm gonna I don't think you mentioned it but Vine definitely fine some of the best best fine my favorite binder for sure without a doubt so thanks again man really thank you for coming on yeah let's do it again yes let's definitely do it again let's definitely do it again the next time I get a tattoo right yeah all right thanks lot man all right bye bye bye is called a checkable is that you can't you get a chance to see it's moving around with the boys and sporties of sexuality having pretty dressed hey there it's wayfare here where delivery and setup are as easy as a few taps on your phone you're relaxing in an old hammock scrolling Wayfair's app when you spot it a brand new patio set next thing you know Wayfair delivers it right to your patio and sets it up oh you need a new grill - all right Wayfair's got you covered with Wayfair's room of choice delivery and fast experts set up on qualifying orders life gets a little easier visit Wayfair.com or the Wayfair app Wayfair every style every home why spend thousands on a basic will when you can get access to legal help for around a dollar a day with legal shield you can put a full estate plan in place including a will health directives and powers 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