Finding Balance Through Astrology with Stephanie Princip

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Welcome to Synchronicity. My guest this week is Stephanie Princeep. Stephanie is a longtime listener of the show. I used to do these book clubs way back when, a couple of years ago, when I had so much more time that I thought I could do book clubs on a weekly basis, which we did, it was really actually pretty awesome. But Stephanie has been connected for a long time. I've watched her interact with the show, with the community, and she's just a really cool person. I've known that for a very long time, just seeing her interact. And recently, I followed her kind of, I guess over the past few years, her journey back into astrology, you'll hear her mention it is kind of a family.

It's embedded in her family, so she's known about it, but she really started to delve into it after a, let's call it traumatic, very intense experience that was triggered by a 48, slightly longer than 48 hour long fast. But I don't wanna get too caught up in what triggered the experience, because anything can kind of have these shifts take place. But I wanna talk about kind of her experience herself. And I didn't know this going into the show. I thought we were just gonna catch up, find out some interesting things about her, which we definitely did in some astrology talk. But really early on, we get to that, she had this very difficult experience, not unlike the one I had back in the early 2000s, where your senses are jacked up to a thousand, sensory input is overwhelming, the synchronicities, which are fun and happy when they are spaced between become constant, a barrage of things.

And it's a very disorienting place. Let's put it like that. So we got to go into that, which I think my favorite part of this show is hearing people's stories and people getting in touch and letting me know that they heard what happened to me or some other people. And it makes them feel less alone and less crazy. 'Cause I mean, let's be clear, when this type of stuff happens, you pretty much, for all intents and purposes, are crazy, especially to other people. And inside your own head, it can be even as scarier. So yeah, I love when we get to delve into those things. Also, the reason I asked Stephanie to be on this show is not just because she's cool, but I've seen her post over the past six months or so, these astrology kind of synopsies for when things are moving into different signs or conjunctions.

And again, I really don't understand the technicals and fundamentals of astrology. I get the very bare bones understanding of houses and planets and signs and things like that and ascending signs. But for the most part, I don't really get it. I don't really understand it, but I do know when I read something that resonates with me. And that's kind of how I pick out anyone who comes on this show, but especially when it comes to astrological stuff, because I think that's what is being conveyed when someone writes or speaks about this stuff. And Stephanie, in addition to the amazing images she selects for her post, just her stuff is so fucking good.

It really hits home for me. And I was happy to hear it towards the end of this episode. She says, I don't share this really to get likes. It's so counter to how Facebook is used, people want attention. She's like, I do it 'cause it's my writing prompts. And I feel like I should put it out there. And if it resonates with people, that's great. And it does. And I think more people should probably approach their art and their creativity in that way. And we probably start getting better stuff out there. Not that everything is terrible, unless it's Game of Thrones. Oh yes, I am 100% on the, they have ruined Game of Thrones bandwagon.

I've known this for a couple of seasons, but I'm almost done with a dance of dragons, a dance with dragons with George RR Martin, his last book for a Song of Ice and Fire, which Game of Thrones is based on. Oh man, these guys ruined the show. They rushed it. It doesn't make any sense. They ruin character arcs. I'm not gonna go and complain about it for too long, but man, what a disappointment. But also, let's say you haven't read the books, you haven't watched the show, you don't give a shit. I can also understand why like, I mean, he didn't finish the books. Like I'm coming up towards the end here and I'm realizing like, holy shit, there's no way this can be brought to a satisfying conclusion.

He hasn't even started the last book. There's two more, anyway, I got deviated. I said I didn't wanna, there wasn't a lot of shitty art. I think the show, they made it shitty. Okay, moving on. (laughs) Stephanie, you're gonna enjoy this episode. This is her first podcast appearance. She said afterwards she was a little nervous. She did great, let her know she did great. You can find her at Stephanieprincipe.com. You can tell she's legit because she's not, she's not like, yeah, hit me up for an astrology reading. I'll do it. I'm the best at it, here we are. She's like, you know, if you resonate, you resonate, hit me up if you think that's something you're interested in.

And I think for people who get the signal she's putting out, you should definitely hit her up for a reading 'cause she's kind of on top of her shit. A few things I wanna talk about this week. First of all, I don't know. You guys still paying attention to cryptocurrency. This is the cue for you to hit those forward 30 second, 15 second buttons on your podcast if you can't stand Bitcoin and cryptocurrency. Well, we're gonna talk about it for two minutes here. Not too much longer. It's obviously still a thing. If you've been in the server, my cryptocurrency server, crypto sync, you know that I've been buying since late November.

Not because I'm some super genius who's accurately able to call the bottom of, you know, price prices, but because let me just explain Bitcoin as simply as possible from an investment standpoint. For my own, and all I can be able to do is my own personal experience, right? This is not financial advice for everyone, but my own experience. So I bought it in 2013, April. I was essentially throwing away my money. This was, it was a hundred something dollars. It looked like some weird new thing, but it was essentially me saying, all right, this is I have some disposable income. Let me buy a little bit.

That was a very risky kind of, what most would consider a foolish investment, right? Forgot about it essentially for five years would tune in and see, oh, it's gone up, it's gone down, it's gone down. That was in 2013, right? So that was six years ago. It's been around since 2009. We're talking about Bitcoin. It's not going away, guys. I'm sorry. If you think it is, if you think it's a scam, if you think it's a Ponzi, if you think it's just some fake internet money that has no real value, well, that's all money. I know we have these intricate and elegant systems that are plugged into a financial system and we love that stuff, but come on.

Guys, like, you know it's not worth anything. It's a piece of paper or it's a metal, a semi-precious, not even, it's like, you know, nickel and copper and shit. So just don't put too much faith in any financial system. What I can say is the chances of it going to zero for an incredibly low amount. We're talking like three digits or two digits. It's pretty low at this point, right? If you've been paying attention to what's going on on the outside, not just the price, you know that it's an incredibly strong currency and it is still a thing many, many years later. So not saying you should buy a Bitcoin now, it just ran up a ton, but it's worth paying attention to and plugging into communities and people who seem to have an idea or at least some perspective on what this stuff is doing.

I will make this proclamation. You can flame me for it later. You can say I'm speculating wildly and making bull predictions, I don't know what I'm talking about, but I think it's a lock that Bitcoin hits over $100,000 at some point within the next few years. I know that sounds crazy. It is definitely gonna be at its all time high. I don't know when, maybe a year, 2020 feels right to me, but I don't know. My point is this is that if you understand what tends to make Bitcoin's price go up, then you would understand that it is more likely than not that it will continue to go up, at least for the immediate five to 10 years in the future.

And we can get into the specifics if, listen, if you're interested in this shit, here's the long kind of sell for this thing. I have a cryptocurrency server, crypto sync. I've experimented with tons of different pricing mechanisms, tiers, monthly, yearly, annual, yearly is annual, and I bounce it back from the people who were already in the community, who are already in there, it's like 330 people. And I said, what should I do? Should I not charge anything? Should I just let people in? Part of the reason I love this community so much is it's really like people are respectful, they're kind, they're insightful, they share willingly.

We talk about a variety of things, not just cryptocurrency, and I wanna maintain that as long as this continues, which is probably for a long time. So they're like, no, you should charge something. So what I've decided to do after bouncing it back across people is we're doing a lifetime access. So you pay once, that's it. End of transaction, you're in there forever until you wanna leave, that's it. That's 50 bucks. I've even taken it out of the Bitcoin price 'cause I realized there was some friction for people understanding how to get Bitcoin and pay in Bitcoin, and you know, you probably wanna learn that if you don't know anything.

So if you're interested in that, you can find it on my website, syncpodcast.com. There's a whole crypto sync area. You can email me, Noah@cryptosync.com. Let me make this clear. The reason I like to talk about this is yeah, it's great if a thousand people gave me 50 bucks, I'd have 50,000 dollars. That's really not what it's about. What it's about is everyone in the community can attest to this. It's so much more comforting and comfortable, and you can make better decisions when you can bounce ideas off of other people and share experiences, both good and bad, related to what is an incredibly volatile and notoriously difficult arena to understand.

I mean, we were just talking about Bitcoin. There's got nearly 3,000 other altcoins, all of this stuff and it can be overwhelming. So if you can get plugged into a group of people who are talking about this stuff and have been through experiences, both good and bad, it's helpful. And let me put a little caveat because I think there's also been some misunderstanding about what the Discord server is. This is a place that people are in every day, you have a phone on your app or your computer, and you're basically plugged into the mainframe. So if you don't have to use it every day, but the people who tend to get the most benefit are active users.

So if you're like, hey, yeah, this sounds good and you're expecting to go in and, you know, there's a shit load of information. There is a lot of information there, but it's really more of an active community in discussion. So if that piques your interest, I'm sorry if we're doing this kind of prolonged ad, but I think cryptocurrency is gonna help a lot of people in the coming years. I like the idea of people who care about, you know, being mindful and compassionate and kind, having money. I think if those people have money and have some financial freedom, the world would be a better place because if we're looking kind of at the situation, the people with the most money don't really use it for the best things.

If they did, I think the world would be a lot better place. And I was listening to this manly p-hall talk about the psychosis of wealth and money addiction. And it was just a really, really good talk. And it just got me thinking about all of this stuff. It feels related to cryptocurrency, seeing what it's done for me and other people. So anyway, I'm sorry I've taken an incredibly long time in this intro to talk about this, but it is going on. So if you're interested, hit me up and you can learn a little bit more about this stuff. Okay, that's it. I have a new sponsor coming next week. They're also gonna be guests on this show.

Really excited to share them with you. They're cool people. You're gonna like them. Now we are officially done. Thanks to everyone who's supporting iTunes, all that stuff. You guys rule, you're the best. Without further ado, here is Stephanie Princey. (upbeat music) Okay, thanks for coming on again.

Hey, thank you.

So a little intro, I'm sure I have all have spoken about this in the intro I record later, but I think you were one of the first people, I think, to really connect with the podcast and show. I remember we did the book club a few years ago and I remember you being a big part of that and you've just kind of been there since the beginning of the show, as far as I can remember. And so I think you're officially the first person who I'm bringing on as a guest who is actually like a listener, which is pretty cool for me just because I always knew just from interacting with you that you were a very interesting and kind of curious person, but to kind of see your evolution into an astrologer who I really, I enjoy pretty much every single thing you post.

It's really been awesome to see. So glad to have you on.

Yeah, thank you so much. It's an honor to be invited on the show and I'm a big fan of what you've been doing and what you've built here.

Yeah, yeah.

No, and I also, I mean, another thing I'll point out is that I like that you're interested in this stuff, but I see that you have like a quote unquote normal life. Like, you know, we were just talking to kids and stuff and like school and like that to me is like emblematic of like what I think this show embodies is because I want it to be approachable for regular quote unquote people who recognize maybe there's some other weird chick going on. So I love that too.

Yeah, I think it's important not to get to sucked into any either the mundane or the metaphysical, I think, you know, balances, healthy and important.

Let's talk about that too. I mean, give me a little for as much as we've connected, there's so much I don't know about you. So like what has been your kind of evolution to, you know, now you have a new modality to explore or one that you're now, you know, focusing on with astrology, but what has kind of been your path towards recognizing the mundane and the sacred and recognizing there should be a balance between the two.

Yeah, I mean, it was, you know, a lot of trial and error, I guess over the years, you know, I wasn't really finding happiness focusing on, you know, the regular day-to-day things too much. And I think, well, you know, I think it was just, astrology for me has always been part of, I guess a family thing, my aunt was an astrologer and, you know, my whole family really, because of her, it was just part of the dialogue, you know, just regular participation in passing usually. So I never really got that deep into it until the past few years, but it's never been a, it's never been that mystified for me.

So because of my background, I think it was almost just, you know, something I dismissed as far as, you know, daily, a daily acknowledgement.

Right.

But then eventually, you know, I think sometimes it takes a, you know, a crisis situation or a visionary experience for you to really start paying attention to patterns and tracking these things, because it does take, it is a practice, you have to really pay attention to what's going on every day, and then what's going on in the sky, so.

I'm learning that too, that it's as much about this kind of constant relationship to what's going on rather than kind of how a lot of people think of it as like, electional, I learned in the last guest I had, you know, or prophesizing what's gonna go on, it's really about tuning yourself to what's going on around you and recognizing, which to me, like, my dad, I don't think he actually believed, I don't know how much he believes in astrology, but he's always like sending charts and stuff on people's birthdays and things like that, but I also kind of dismissed it, especially, I would say, until the last few years, but there's something, I don't have, like, a specific example of what got me, you know, what perked my interests, but what was it for you that kind of got you more along this path or starting to explore it, especially since you had been kind of, like, aware of it because of your aunt?

Yeah, yeah, I think, again, it was just something I almost took for granted being around it and, you know, not really seeing it work for me because I wasn't taking the time to try it and that kind of thing, but yeah, so, you know, my interest in it began a few years before I actually started studying it and spending more time learning about the, you know, the aspects and the signs and more in depth. So, what, it was, I guess it was a crisis situation. It was kind of an identity crisis that sometimes we go through and a lot of seemingly metaphysical and explainable occurrences that just started to happen when I started getting more extreme with some of my personal practices.

Waking, you got a dish on what some of these were.

Yeah, well, it was a lot of things it was, but I think what triggered it was fasting, really, very difficult fasting and one time, I think I went a little too far with it and something kind of snapped. And I think you've discussed a similar experience where I had a period of about three months where I just wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't able to function in a typical normal way.

Yeah.

You know, there was just, there was so much happening in so many signs and synchronicities and...

Yeah, it's overwhelming, it's like it. I mean, also, I mean, I'm assuming this is relatively recent, when did this happen to you like in the past few years?

Yeah, I think it was 2015 and...

Okay.

Yeah, I was really, I really suffered from anxiety because I was just, I was just too tuned in and I would go outside and, you know, it was like every sense was more acute and... It was just overwhelming, it was like I was in tune with the universe and I don't really know if there's a way I can explain that more, but we all understand, you know?

Yeah, well, the reason I bring up that it's only a few years ago, I mean, I've spoken to a fair number of people who have had these experiences ranging from decades ago to, you know, months ago, in some cases, it's seen, I can say from my personal experiences, the longer you get, the farther you get away from it in temporal time, the easier it is to understand maybe thematically or actually what was going on. So like now you're a few years removed, you're starting to understand like, oh, it might be related to this, I can kind of see exactly how I was set up for this and I'm starting to figure out some words and phrases to describe what's going on.

I've heard some other people talk about some more things. Eventually, in my experience, it does kind of reveal, you get the broader picture of what's going on and, you know, one of the cool things about nowadays is that a lot of people can share these experiences, not just in like a written form, like a book, which can be very helpful, but actually hearing people speak about it in a way that's like, oh shit, yeah, that's kind of what happened to me. So with the fasting, what were the, yeah, what were the circumstances, like where were you with the fasting when this happened? I'm very interested in this.

Oh, yeah, it wasn't even that extreme, it was like a 48 hour fast and, you know--

Water, green drink of water?

Long before, yeah, it was like, you know, I would have a little bit of honey and things like that periodically in water. And yeah, so there was something that compelled me to go a little bit further with it and it was, okay, it sounds strange, but it was almost like a message that was like, go do it more, do it more. And it wasn't really from me. So I pushed it another several hours and, you know, then I broke the fast and there was really nothing remarkable about it, but then I just woke up the next day and everything had changed. And I freaked out because I didn't, I didn't need this stuff, you know.

Well, yeah, like, so what was going on? You wake up and like describe that experience.

It was, I was almost halfway out of my body, even, you know, and I was trying to eat more to ground it and to ground the energy. It wasn't really helping. So I really didn't have that much to prepare me for what was happening and not even a meditation and breathing and things like that, but it just wasn't. I mean, I was, you know, it was like I had, you know, stuck a fork and, you know, outlet, you know.

Right, right, right.

It was totally unlike me and, yeah, so, yeah, I just woke up and I don't even remember exactly, you know, how I handled it. But I mean, I was able to do things like drive and do my normal routine, but I mean, it was extremely challenging. And I would just have to go sit down a lot and lay down a lot for the next, I mean, three months. And I had also, during the time, strange experiences like sleep paralysis. Oh, can you, so I just heard someone else speak about this. I'm having her on next, she's a death duer. And she's, you know, worked with a lot of dying people throughout the years, but she was describing sleep paralysis and how she would get a lot of communications and dreams and kind of this like, in between state and sleep paralysis.

So what I've, I think maybe I had it like once or twice when I was a kid, but it's such a distant memory that I haven't experienced it. What was that like?

Well, I, I think I, okay, I did fall asleep. And then I woke up and remember staring at the clock. I can't remember what time it was. But I couldn't feel anything. And I felt like my perception was slightly elevated above my body.

Right. Like I was slightly floating outside of, you know, whatever my perception is, it was, it was slightly elevated, you know, outside of my body. And I couldn't, yeah, I couldn't move my hands or my legs or anything. It's completely numb. And because of everything else, it was occurring. I thought for a moment, you know, I crossed over.

Right, right. No, I totally get it. I mean, that's like, it's probably weird it is to say now or someone listening who doesn't get it. Like, I mean, if you're in that state, I mean, just to be clear, I never had sleep paralysis, but when I was in a state where everything was just coming way too fast, my senses were jacked up to infinity, including like, just like psychic input and intuitive faculties. Like the distance between like reality and unreality is not like that far. Like it's a pretty logical thing to be like, all right, I think maybe I'm dead now. Like what is Jesus?

It wasn't a, it wasn't anything I freaked out over, you know, at the moment, because I couldn't feel anything. I think the numbness really took away a lot of fear. It was just like, oh, well, now, now, what do I do? You know, I didn't have everything in order to.

Did that happen like several times or just once?

It was just once.

That's one example, one extreme example of the phenomena just happening. One, it's easier to actually describe.

Which ones are harder to describe? (laughs)

Just the feeling of going out in nature and walking and being overwhelmed by the input of coming in through the vision and, you know, weird smells. Everything's jacked up.

Yeah, I'm getting backed up and you can't turn it off.

Were you doing psychedelics before this? Like what was kind of, do you think there was any other trigger for this that you could have seen coming besides the fasting?

Yeah, I think, I think this psychedelics definitely with my history, I do have a history of, journeying with them periodically. And so, I think it's par for the course and to, it was all leading up to that. I think there was something that wasn't really coming through before and it just took one thing after another. And yeah, during that time, I was pretty heavily into all kinds of experimentation, just trying to feel something.

Moving your consciousness around.

Yeah, I'd never experienced any, you know, I have a high tolerance for a lot of things. And, you know, I do have, you know, when I was younger, I think it led to a lot of irresponsible choices and things like that, just learning how to, or just trying to feel something. I think, you know, because I felt in a moment, a lot of ways that I could try to self-medicate. And, you know, as you evolve, you try to find healthier ways to do that.

Ideally, yes. (laughs) Yeah, well, luckily, I mean, it sounds like you have it. I mean, psychedelics can really be that kind of boost. I mean, as you know, in many unintended sometimes side effects or consequences, but I think, you know, it sounds like you've maintained a sense of awareness of what was going on even during turbulent times in both directions, you know, down and up or numb and feel, acute feeling that you can recognize and kind of discern what's useful and what's not. And when I think that, you know, I think about psychedelics a lot these days, just not, I don't even do them that much.

I microdose, you know, LSD, that's about it. But I see the divisions that are forming just within the psychedelic world, you know, along gender lines and ethical lines and just crazy stuff. And, you know, it's like, it's just a reminder that the psychedelics themselves are not gonna be the thing that lead to healthier change by themselves. It's your relationship and awareness of how you can grow as a person, aided potentially by these things, you know, positively or negatively to lead to change. I mean, so when you were in this acute state, I'm sorry to keep going back to you, I'm just so interested, like, what did kind of the tail end, like, how did you come out of it?

What was the kind of re-entry phase, like, what led to that?

It just took time, I wasn't sure how it was gonna integrate that and it was just, you know, I was ready to integrate it, but it was just a matter of turning that body down and all the, you know, like, coming down off of that, that wired hypersensitivity.

Yeah.

And the synchronicities were too much. It was just, I mean, it was just, you know, distracting. And I think that's the key with psychedelics and everything is, you know, you don't want it to be a distraction and there's gotta be, again, some kind of balance in between going numb and then feeling everything. And I think I tried to push it for so long, trying to feel what I wanted to, and then, you know, I ended up going too far. So, but then that led to a lot, a lot more knowledge and intuition and tracking of the cycles of time.

So, yeah, I mean, what was kind of the evolution, like, what was the launching pad from that acute synch? I know what you're talking about. It's, there's so many that maybe even enable a podcast after the experience 'cause it's still kind of crazy. Yeah, no, I get it. What was kind of the pathway towards astrology and how do you see it kind of fitting in to not only your experience but just as like a practical tool that, I mean, I got, I'm curious to know how you use it in your daily life too, but I just know from what you put out there and astrologers that I'm now tuned into, I just find it really to be deeply resonant with what I go through kind of on these time cycles of the moon and stars and planets moving around.

So, so how did that happen for you? How did you move into that?

Well, I think, you know, going through that, that crisis, when I was saying that a lot of times it takes a crisis or a visionary experience to really start to see the meaning. And I think people have different ways they can, they can do that for me, it's astrology because that was what I turned to because that's, that was my metaphysical background language. You know, in that time of crisis, I think I turned to that to see if I can find any correlation and lo and behold, I did. So I started journaling and paying attention to, for me, my role in planet is Venus and when this happened, when I woke up that day because I'm a Libra rising, so Venus rules the chart.

So, you know, when I woke up that day, it was the day that Venus had turned retrograde. So, July 25th, I remember it. So.

That's the Mayan day out of time, you know that?

Yeah, oh yeah, I'm proud about that. Yeah, and I noted that too in my journal. Yeah, and so that also sparked interest in Mayan.

That'll do it. That's my mom's birthday, it's the only reason I know the exact date, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, so, and that's so like bridge and deep to the Mayan stuff. So, yeah, I just, that was what started, I think the journaling and the paying attention to these cycles and it just, you know, I think that was when the, you know, my obsession with astrology began, even though I had been engaged with it for years prior to that. I really started going deep in my studies and I was able to talk very easily and I can't really say that about a lot of subjects, so I think there is some kind of lineage back there.

Well, when something clicks and it just, you know it clicks, no one can tell you that it doesn't and you're like, yeah, I think there may be something, there may be something to this. So, when you started, and I can say this pretty, honestly, it doesn't click for me from like a technical and foundational standpoint, but that doesn't mean that it won't and I still investigate it and stay tuned into it, like by talking to people like you, because I find it to be deeply meaningful and relevant to what's going on. So, when you started and everything is, you know, you're recognizing it's clicking, it's working for you, what were some of the first ways you started to kind of integrate it into your life, you know, on a regular basis?

I think it would just help to let me know what kind of the energy was going to be influencing the day and I don't want to get into this. You can also get into like setting yourself up by knowing what's coming. And I think it's really also very important to inner astrology with a skeptical mindset, really.

Yes.

I think it will, you know, it will either resonate for you or it won't and before anybody dismisses it, you know, also think they should, before anybody dismisses anything they really should.

Try to study it themselves.

Well, yeah, 'cause if you don't, you're just being ignorant, which is no one really, you should be taking your opinion seriously if you're not studying what you're talking about, for sure. I mean, but yeah, just entering into studies of astrology or anything with our neutral mindset skeptical. I mean, you can just see what resonates and what doesn't and I think that's really always how I've, the more I do it, the more I don't even think about that.

Right.

You know, it's just, so I guess I am, I have adopted it as a, you know, belief system, but I still don't try, you know, I still need to be careful with, I think sometimes it's even better to not really know what's coming that day unless it's something like important. And then you can kind of review and at the end of the day and see maybe why, you know, do that happen. And then it helps build your first-hand experience with astrology and you can, you know, be of service to somebody else or.

It is, it's like, well, this is something I speak about a lot with any type of divination or electional astrology or anything, I just, I'm just using that term 'cause I just found out about it and I like it. But I find it very, very helpful if you're going in skeptical or you don't wanna just jump with both feet in because, you know, you wanna test things out which I think is very prudent and very smart, especially this day and age where a lot of people are pitching a lot of quick fixes and new age solutions to things in a ever-increasing, you know, systematic effort. But I think if you can look back on things and see if it lines up as kind of a retrospective, that is like a, that's a foundational element of building your faith and trust in something because we, you know, the truth of it is this, right?

Like sometimes you will predictably look up something and then that will absolutely happen, right? And you can say, well, did that happen because I made it happen or it was a self-fulfilling prophecy and it just clouds the relationship. So the causality of it gets muddied and you can't figure it out. So even if it was working the way that you think it was intuitively, you're still gonna have these kind of like mental doubts and knots about it. Whereas if these weird phenomena happen to you and you look back and, oh, look, Venus just went into retrograde or, you know, there was this conjunction of things, I don't know any of the terms I'm just making most of this stuff up.

You know, that builds a trust level that I think is important if you seriously want to pursue or are interested in these things. It's just like, it's almost like a key thing. So yeah, I'm glad to hear that that's kind of how you like to do it too because I think it's really important distinction.

Yeah, and I think for you an easier way to look at these planets and instead of, you can look at it from a predictive lens but you can also see that these planets are archetypal and so, you know, Rich Tarnas and Cosmos and Psyche talks about these outer planets being archetyply multivalent. There's many faces of each inner and outer planet so it can play out in a combination of ways but there is an umbrella of terms associated with each one. - Right. So, you know, not everybody born the same day is going to have the exact same experience. It's just going to be like an archetyply similar journey or pattern that emerges.

So what, let's shift it now to a little bit to like what themes do you see emerging, you know, right now where we are in May 2019 but also for the future and the next, I don't know, year or two. What cycles are you typically looking at to not again, predict the future but see what energies may be influencing the current and the not too distant future times? Like what, where are you using a look at this stuff?

Yeah, the outer planets is going to be Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto. These are the big players because they don't move very fast at all. So what you're looking at with these transits are longer cycles of time. If you're having a personal transit with one of these, you're looking at years of integrating what's happening and again, Riptanas and Stanislaw Grop did a lot of work with these outer planet transits and there are studies of predicted, they're basically predicting what kind of psychedelic experiences would have depending on their transits of these outer planet archetypal energies.

So that's another good example. I mean, they, for about 30 years, they were able to predict with more accuracy, the type of psychedelic experience, whether pleasant or stressful or easy or turbulent, somebody was going to have with, I mean, but it was more accurate than like a war check test or these other personality assessments to kind of see how it was going to go because they were, to be able to have vastly different experiences.

Right, and you could be, it's moving, right? I mean, based on where you are and where the planets are in relationship to you, having that kind of as a constant change, being able to attune yourself because that's dropping just into my intuitive faculties. That's how I use astrology, right? I go, oh man, this, something feels weird. It is something going on and I feel like that a lot more people are kind of somewhat attuned to like something like mercury retrograde or something like that and your electronics don't work and communication gets a little bit difficult, but I've noticed it just so many other times and then when I go and look at, whether it's a Vedic astrological thing or it's that, based on my natal chart, this thing is going on like, it's eerie after the fact to look and see that we're through these cycles and then when you look at these broader kind of cultural ones, like you're talking about these distant planets, I think the relative success rate of people predicting what's going on either with technology or global finances and all of these things from an astrological perspective, I've been more and more impressed over the more I read and kind of understand where this historically fit in and where it fits in now in terms of like calling some of this stuff, you know what I mean?

It's pretty, it's eerie. So right now, what's going on with the planets and us as like a culture. (laughs)

Yeah, so yes, these transits are going to affect everybody a little bit differently because it's gonna fall, they're going to fall in a certain house.

Of course, yes.

A real chart, but yeah, collectively, I would say, keep in mind these outer planets because yes, Mercury grows retrograde so often that everybody may be tending to it and the moon's even faster. I think it moves like 13 degrees a day, more or less. So yeah, the outer planets, as far as what's going on now and will be felt collectively, just, you know, again, it'll fall, it just depends on where it falls in the individual chart, but collectively everybody will be feeling the squeeze with this, there's a lineup in Capricorn right now and going to be exact. There's gonna be an exact conjunction of Saturn and Pluto and Capricorn on early January.

Now, there's the south node of the moon and Capricorn and then Saturn and Pluto and Capricorn. Jupiter is going to be in Capricorn at the end of the year, I think December, November, December. So it'll be an early, early degrees of Capricorn. The first week of January when this happens, I think Mercury is gonna be there too. So anyway, it's in the sun. So it's gonna be a lineup, but the main thing is going to be the Saturn, Pluto, conjunction and Capricorn. So Capricorn can represent, you know, like the patriarchy.

Sure.

And it can, it can, historically it's been involved with like a, a constriction of, or a power grab in people and authorities and governments and conservative values are really trying to dominate, you know, for the more progressive.

Maybe like passing abortion laws in some states that are pretty restrictive and insane type of stuff. Yeah. - Yeah, yeah. So, so yeah, that is, everything is leading up to that January conjunction where there would be a lot of this Capricorn energy being purged with moon being there. So it is a purging. So something is going to need to be cleared out for something else to take its place. But yeah, it's a, it's going to be a very, you can see, you can see everything that's happening now is just gonna be an intensification of that. And then at the same time you have this Uranus, Uranus into Tars.

And that's, it dipped into their, that sign last year.

Yeah.

And it retrograde it back into Aries. And a few months ago it's, it's inter, re-entered Tars and it's going to be there for the next seven, eight years. And it has about an 84 year cycle.

And what does Uranus usually represent?

Uranus is, is these very Promethean ideas and events, innovations and the unexpected. It's, it's a very, very much a wild card kind of energy.

Like a trickery type of bag.

Yeah, it can be considered like a higher, a higher octave of mercury. So it is very unpredictable. And, but again, you can look to history to kind of see correlations. So I think last time it was in Tars, you saw like the Dust Bowl.

What was she getting for a little too?

Wow. Yeah.

Yeah. So there tends to be these things occurring simultaneously. You have something that really wakes up the population about, you know, urgency. And again, Tars is related to the earth. The financial system, you know, Wall Street has the bowl statue.

Yes.

Yes, yes, yes it does.

Yeah. It's correlated to, to finance and the earth. So you'll see, yeah, simultaneously the people will, you know, tend to wake up to the fact that there is an urgent need to address some of these things, but at the same time you'll get like these crazy innovations happening.

Great.

Which I mean, you'll, I've noticed in the headlines with a lot of, there's a lot of really smart things coming out related to, you know, biotech and smart farming practices.

Yeah. Some more conscientious relationships. And it's interesting that we have this kind of like purging energy of systems that have been constrictive and kind of power, hungry, the Capricornian energy. Is Capricornian a word? It is now, you know, and also this kind of Uranus moving into a new kind of emerging paradigm. It's weird because this all lines up just intuitively for me, but also when we look at like actual upcoming events, you know, it's one thing, if you say, yeah, we're gonna have all this stuff happening and there's nothing really that eventful going on. But we know that at least in this country, we're gonna have a pretty big event in terms of the next election, which is like a very, very interesting and kind of pivotal point for, I think, this country, which is whether we like it or not, a major player in the world, you're not in a great way, but it's, it's just so, I always love like, this is kind of like an example of what I was talking about or what you were talking about really of, you know, retroactively seeing these things come into place.

So we have these cycles lining up and taking place and then, oh, well, what do you know? Here's an election cycle that happens to be right there or right when these things are going on. You know what I mean?

Yeah, it is wild, isn't it?

It's crazy. I mean, also like, I don't know if you know, I mean, you do this now, but I mean, I've seen such a resurgence in interest in astrology, right? So the point where I'm basically, I'm having back-to-back episodes about this just because, you know, it just happened to fall that way, but I mean, it really is like kind of a big uptick. And like, again, just for anyone who thinks this is just total malarkey, I doubt you'd be listening at this point, but, you know, Carl Jung, who I very much respect his mind and how he was curious and a lot of different modalities, I mean, he was fascinated with astrology.

Like, he couldn't get his mind off it. Like, he tried to empirically statistically prove things and like, as best as he could because he found it to be such a example of something that kind of lived just beyond the grasp of our like logical, analytical understanding, but nevertheless, had such an influence and noticeable one. So, have you seen? I mean, like, what's been your kind of meta observation on the astrological world? Just since you've really been getting into it, like, have you noticed any themes?

As far as...

Just like, you know, the general interest or how it's fitting into people's lives.

Yeah, it does seem like there's been an uptick in the increase in interest. But it's hard to tell because that's just...

'Cause you're more interested. But the fact that we're having a conversation about it, to me, I mean, I know it's my decision and your decision to do that, but like, intuitively also feels like, you know, something is going on here. There's some relevance of these kind of... The mystical aspects of this, but also the practical ones really becoming like a pretty useful tool. So like, has it helped you? How has it helped you in the past, let's say, year or two? Like, how just is there a practical benefit you can speak about related to astrology?

Yeah, I think it's helped my analytical mind. It's actually really good for connecting both hemispheres of my brain, I feel like. I'm not a math person, you know, but it does take some calculation. And so it's a fun way for me to use that side and do calculations in my head. Nothing because of the practice, it's strengthened, you know, some of my neurons.

Yeah. - And yeah, connected, everything in a more cohesive way. And so it's brought a lot of balance, but I do need to be careful to step away from it. I don't want to be identified by it because I think that defeats the purpose too, because if it becomes your life, you know, it's, I think it's meant to enhance, and use it as a tool, don't make it your identity. I mean, well, this is something you've been mentioning since the beginning of the episode with an identity kind of crisis as a trigger for a more profound or a very profound experience. I mean, I think everyone is grasp grasp. One thing, I will say this, one thing I've found in the past few years connecting with a lot of people because of this show in part is the people who have taken psychedelics at early ages who had very profound experiences, not just like kind of like low dose recreational fun time, right in the adolescent period of their lives seem to recognize that the personas that we create around that time as we're like really moving into the world, there's more kind of an acceptance of recognizing you don't have to craft an identity or persona around something in order to project yourself to the world.

I think that's both a good and bad thing, right? In the good way, it reminds you that everything is loosery. Nothing is as substantial as we like to imagine it is with our egoic minds and just out in the world that reinforces the belief. So that's good. The bad thing is is that if you lose sight of that and you get too wishy-washy, you can lose touch with reality. You can get so immersed in the kind of cosmic ocean of what we're embedded in that it begins difficult to kind of have any way to interact with other people because you're just kind of grasping at reality. But I mean, it seems to me, just in speaking with you today and just, you know, seeing observing you and just, you know, talking throughout the years, your focus on balance and kind of recognizing that relationship is pretty on point, Stephanie, I gotta say, because like a lot of people I see get carried away in either direction, myself included at various times, I'm sure you too, you've mentioned it, it's like, that's such an important message, I think, for people to hear because this stuff can be super exciting, it can be incredibly like magical and amazing, but recognizing if you're going too far if you don't intend to is like a very important skill to harness and I get the sense that you're getting better and better at that.

Yeah, and to be quite honest, I mean, I'm at a period of time right now where I'm kind of not as into astrology. (laughing)

I love it, I love it.

Just, I'm having an off month or my interest is elsewhere, but I think I've been so meshed in studying for so long that I'm ready to, you know, it's springtime and I'm ready to get out.

Yeah.

Sure, and step away from the computer and the screenings and, oh.

Yeah, that's how I feel, it just started getting nice here. I know, I think that's like, again, like--

Yeah, it's okay to go off-grid for a little while.

Well, I mean, you also recognize this as like a parent, like, you know, there's other things going on too. You know what I mean? You don't have to just get so sucked down into a rabbit hole and I'm glad you brought that up because it's something I think about a lot, like sometimes I'm super into something, right now it happens to be astrology. So we're different ends of the spectrum, but sometimes it's like I could not care less about anything mystical or transcendent, you know? Like, I just wanna watch some football or do something that's completely like stupid and mind-numbing. And I think it's important to like acknowledge that and say that's like, okay, you don't have to be some mystical astrologer 24/7 because you know this, like, that can be overwhelming.

Yeah, I can't step out of the water sometimes. I mean, it's, yeah, I mean, I do pay attention to astrology every single day, but yeah, my study, I think I've learned so much and such a small amount of time that, you know, I'm in the integration phase now, just need to stay in the books and step away from classes and, you know, if I resonate with somebody, you know, I do love to read for people and to be of service. But I think, yeah, I also believe if you resonate with somebody, then that's cool and if, you know, if you're drawn to somebody, that's great.

But yeah, like I'm just trying to reach the few people that I might resonate with and then that's it, I'm not trying to be everything to everybody that's impossible. And that, you know, I think a lot of astrologers, you know, end up finding their niche eventually and, you know, it is one of those things where you have to, I think to just maintain your health and well-being to step away from like that, you know.

Well, speaking of that, and this is, you kind of plucked it out of my head a little bit, what other things do you do to kind of keep yourself sane, right? To keep yourself that healthy balance between, it seems like you kind of have a natural ability to kind of know, right, the weather's getting nice, it's time to step away from the screen, start integrating all this stuff you've been reading and studying, but do you do other things to kind of get you drunk to help you with that balance?

Yeah, I mean, like you, I can get really sucked down into rabbit holes and, but yeah, I think I've always had that instinct to know when to walk away from home. A lot of that is, you know, I have a lot of Scorpio, eighth house, and that can be very obsessional, so you have to watch that. So, yeah, eighth house, I think I have sun, you sun and Venus in the eighth house, whole sign and classitus to different health systems. So, and then I have three Pluto, Saturn and Mars and Scorpio. And I think that drives a lot of, a lot of the obsessional for good and for bad.

Yeah, yeah. (laughing)

Yeah, I do identify with that sign very much in my aunt and my mom. I have a, it's just a common signature in my family. So, it keeps things passionate and, but yeah, you just have to watch out for the obsessions.

The going over the, you know, yeah.

Yeah, it's gonna go up when I'm reading or looking into something.

Well, especially if aided and abetted by synchronicities, that's like, it's hard to like throw those away a lot of the time. I've learned throughout the years, but you know, like, if you're really studying something, and this is the whole Robert Anton Wilson cosmic control center, like if you start pinging it, it's gonna ping you back. Like, that's how stuff works, whether people believe it or not. I say this all the time, you know, people start like reading some really like heady mystical things. Like if you really go for this, this is gonna be way weirder than you thought it was. Like, this is just how it works.

It's a, it's a law.

And I, I didn't, I didn't believe that for a second until I, you know, first hand and then, you know, got knocked in my ass. So, I got up in that way for some people. And I think motherhood for me triggered a lot, a lot of intuition that I had before. I had an odd experience in labor.

Oh, wow. What was that like? What happened?

It was wild. I mean, it was just as I was pushing my daughter's head out. You know, it was bubbling above my body. And just like the, just like you hear it described, you know, it's like you're in a corner in the ceiling, but I was like kind of center looking down from the ceiling. And it was just a second, you know, but it was enough to kind of shift things, I think.

It's a lot of the experience, you know?

Yeah.

Oh, wow.

It hasn't happened before since. The sleep prep, I guess, can be compared to maybe that sensation, but...

The looking above the outside the body aspect. Well, I mean, you know, from my readings and other, not that I'm an expert on this, it sounds like, right? We have multiple different bodies. Some are more ethereal than, you know, even if you're looking at this from a very like strictly materialistic standpoint, you know, we have different bodies like our psychology or physiology, like there's different aspects to ourselves that we can identify empirically as well. But, you know, I had a friend in college who, he's a doctor now, a surgeon. And we took mushrooms once, you know, a lot of mushrooms back in those days.

And everyone had a pretty, they were good mushrooms. They were very strong, but he went down to the cafeteria and he passed out and just like passed out at the, at the, like the food place, the buffet. And when we picked him up, he was only out for like five seconds. I wasn't there, but I heard about it afterwards. He was like, they were like, what happened? And I was asking him this too afterwards when I saw him and he's like, yeah, I just, I floated out of my body. I saw myself and then that's all I can remember. And like, this is just to be clear, like this isn't, this guy was the least woo-woo, like he was cool.

He smoked, he was normal, but like, he was not going to be telling you ghost stories or paranormal stuff. And he's like, no, like in a hundred percent happened. So we have enough examples of this taking place that we can, we shouldn't write it off at the very least.

Yeah. Yeah. Coming from somebody like that, it is more, it does make you pay more attention to those kind of anecdotes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, I think, yeah, some of the best examples, I mean, because they kind of don't have any prior experience with it and, you know, I think you're just, it can kind of just wake somebody like that up to, you know, and they don't have to keep going down these crazy roads. They can, they can know that that exists, that they listen.

Yes.

There's so many dimensions and we don't really have easy access to get in touch with them on a daily basis.

Not yet, at least. Yeah.

You know, I think you can make all the difference for somebody and it did for me. I mean, you know, I'm glad to know, glad to, you know, live outside of completely...

It's not like our skeptical world to do with, you know, some first-hand experience of a mystical... I feel...

Well, you know, this is something, again, I think about a lot and I love when you can kind of just like skip that part of it when you're getting to know someone just because the first-hand experience just, it, like you said, it eliminates the need for the constant analysis as to whether something is or is not true. And that can take up so much time and energy for people to kind of like, just, you know, just back and forth and drive, I mean, you can drive yourself nuts like that legitimately. Like I'm talking figuratively, you can go nuts just by going back and forth. And then when you get enough doses of over the edge, you know, seeing what's behind the veil, you can direct that energy to whatever you want, but it's certainly not spent on like, is this real?

Is this not real? You can trust me, it can be transmitted into plenty of other unhealthy ways too, but at least it moves past the question that, hey, shit is a lot weirder than we regularly experience with our five senses. And yeah, I mean, that's a very, it can be a very liberating experience for sure.

Yeah, and your mind is completely forever, slightly a jar open, and you're just open to, ideally open to everything without getting sucked into, you know, you're paying attention to your direct experience and having a open mind to listen to any other perspective.

Yeah, viewpoints or other. Yeah, I mean, it helps you cultivate a multi-perspectival view, which is the fancy way of saying it's just like you, you can listen to people who may not agree with you and see if there's something valid that you hadn't considered, which is really important skill these days 'cause people are seeming to know not know how to do that. So yeah, cool.

Yeah, to get back to your question, I mean, asking what I did to, can you step away from that? I think being in the body, I'm a Taurus. It was very important to kind of ground spirit.

Oh, happy birthday, by the way. It was your birthday a couple days ago. Happy belated birthday. I'm so sorry, I forgot.

Yeah, it was a good one.

Awesome.

Taurus in particular, they need to be in their body, they need to kind of ground this stuff, because when you start, when you start, it can be a super disorienting for somebody that, and I think personally, that's something I always needed to work on, is because I do tend to get way up in the head. So the most important thing is just being active and trying to be mindful of movement and getting out of aggression, exercise. Yeah, aggression's a big one. I mean, just, you know, just if you pass your stress, stress the threshold, then you need to let off some steam and...

Yeah.

Yeah, you're speaking to the right person. I'm sure there's a reason you started, you like my podcast 'cause you're describing all of the things that have taken me way too long to recognize that helped me too, which is don't get too crazy up in your head, stay connected to the earth, make sure you do physical exercise and movement, because if you don't, you're gonna be a pressure cooker waiting to blow, and you're usually talking, right? I mean, it's like me too, but this is technically decades to learn, but I totally get it.

Yeah, I remember, yeah. Just, I mean, just not knowing how to win and how to release, now I was born with Mars retrograde, and that can be an issue for people with troubles and Mars, you know, just not knowing when to let it out.

Yeah.

And then it's too lightning.

Yeah, I kept with the lid back on. So I know you're taking a pause just, you know, from actively studying, but it seems like you've gained enough experience. If people were interested in getting a reading with you after listening to this, where could they go?

I have a website now, StephaniePrenzip.com. It's up and running, and I'm going to add some more things to it, and hopefully start posting some articles there.

Awesome.

Back into the writing zone.

Awesome, awesome, awesome.

And my Facebook page is just StephaniePrenzip and I'm on Twitter, you know, post some stuff there.

Yeah, I mean, this book is just a way for me to, I do short writing there. It's just a write on my own, and public posting is more a way for me to just stay accountable.

For what you're doing.

You know, for the writing practice, and if it resonates with any particular person, they can definitely follow it, and yeah, book reading on the website.

Well, it's interesting. You know, like most people, I don't always enjoy what I see on Facebook, but I think your intention of holding yourself accountable and putting it out, not for a response, but to see if it resonates with people is so counter to what happens on Facebook that that's probably why I like it so much. 'Cause I love that's like really what sparked me getting in touch with you for this, is like some of the stuff you post there, I'm like, holy shit, this is like super on point. Like, how is she doing this? So I love it, I'm a big fan of that personally.

Yeah, the only thing I feel like I channel it really, I mean, I start writing, it just comes out.

It feels like that, just to be clear.

I'm gonna start writing, and it's just like, you know, the tarot, your interest in tarot, it's a lot of it's just like, if you can quiet your mind and let the intuition come through. You know, it does, the only way I can get out and the fact of message, I think, is to cut off my analytical thinking of it.

I know a lot of people can benefit from hearing that because it's seen thematically. It's gotten so many people in trouble over the past 100, 150 years, however long, like our analytical mind is amazing. It really helps, I listen, my day job, I use analytics all of the time and I have to interpret and figure out based on data what's going on, but it also gets us into so much unneeded trouble and just like the over analysis and the exhaustion. So being able to drop that with whatever modality it is is like, it's super important. So I'm just like, I'm glad you brought that up, but we are getting to the end of the episode, you know how this goes.

We're gonna go to the three questions and then the open-ended question. Is there anything that you wanted to, I sometimes do this, I cut people off when they had something else to say? Is there anything else you wanted to say before the questions?

No, that's not. (laughs)

Well, and we'll definitely check in again too. Like, I really like, I can't stress this enough. I've been abundantly impressed and I'm glad to hear that you feel like you're channeling them, but that is what you have been doing with the astrology and those kind of writings really is impactful, at least in my life. So I very much appreciate that.

That's very sweet. And I'll be back.

Yeah.

Of course.

So that it's, you know, doing something.

Yeah, it is. And it's resonating with people who very much appreciate it.

Yeah, that's my intention is to resonate with a few that I may be able to be of service to.

Yeah. I know that I'll happily allocate time for whoever that might be.

That's awesome. All right. Question time.

Okay.

Favorite color.

Green.

Favorite number.

108.

Nice. Favorite animal.

Double.

Nice, Taurus. Practical tip that has helped you in your life that you could share with people listening.

Listen to the intuition that tells you when to engage with something and when to walk away. Right through what we were saying about that balancing act.

Yeah. It's incredibly that the equanimity and the balancing of those two things. I get it. It's the theme of this podcast. I just have to come up with a clever name for it now. Stephanie, thank you so much for doing this. This was awesome.

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